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May 20, 2006

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Glenn Greenwald's original claim to fame was writing scathing op-eds about the Bush Administration's for Salon during the early 2000s during the height of the blogging era.

I still to this day think that his articles were quite insightful - he won a few awards - but ever since then he's done everything imaginable throw it all away. That's from his toxic social media presence to becoming a regular guest on Fox News included their late night segments.

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Majorian posted:

Yeah, that's basically my feeling. He's done some genuinely admirable, important work in exposing war crimes committed by the U.S. under Bush and Obama, helping get Lula freed in Brazil, etc, etc. But it's overshadowed by the extremely bad positions he's taken over the past few years, and that's a drat shame. Marielle Franco is spinning in her grave.

At this point, it's not just overshadowed it doesn't even matter. It doesn't matter what great things you did years ago when all you are doing is hurting people today.

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Waterbed Wendy posted:

what are some of his most controversial positions? I really only know of him from the most recent primaries. I tuned out after that.

His latest controversial position is that Democrats are the real racists and Republicans are socialists.

No, I'm not kidding.

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

i always view him as sorta of much shittier Seymour Hersh. both had good articles and did good poo poo BUT than their brains rotted and they believed whatever insane poo poo they heard in the grapevine and believed whatever weird bullshit they heard even when it was clearly not true. i dont think hersh is nazi though so he has a leg up.

This is interesting, what the tl;dr on Hersh? I almost was able to see him speak once and I think he's massive influential figure but he's kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

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James Garfield posted:

This is a Greenwald blog post from 2005. http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/12/yelling-racist-as-argument-in.html The URL probably makes it obvious but here's a quote from that blog post:


I don't think he was ever any better than he is now, there just weren't Twitter and Tucker Carlson to air his stupid opinions on everything other than the Iraq war.

Sounds like he survived in the earlier 2000s because his Salon editor would have cut that poo poo out.

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With the all the poo poo that's going on, we ought just create a 2021 Fall from Grace thread were discuss whichever legendary figurehead is dropping all of their goodwill.

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Dapper_Swindler posted:

he exposed My Lai and the coverup of it afterward and as well as the "covert" boming of cambodia. he did good work after like covering Abu Grabe horror show but he basicaly started telling weird lies and bullshit. like he wrote an JFK book that while some of it is partly true probably, very little of it is sourced and its very smeary. it got worse because he basicaly latched onto various conspiracies (bin ladin wasnt killed in the raid, assad never gassed anyone, seth rich was murdered by the deep state, Skripal poisoning wasnt done by russia) its dumb bad takes. like he will have good points and maybe even be right on some stuff but than he takes it to a weird dumb degree.

Hah. Yea, that's lovely.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

he sucks, but he still does decent work and isn't a nazi.

Heh. That's good summary.

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Quotey posted:

No, it's not. Other than the one tweet thread calling him out about the white supremacy stuff, it'll all just Glenn's Bad. Like, what the gently caress is this?

Do you regular read and participate in D&D? He's disliked so goddamn much the mere mention of him derails entire conversation. In fact, I think this is the 2nd GG Thread. There was another a few years back.

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Quotey posted:

I understand that, but the OP is asking what he's done and "What are some of his best hits that make so many people hate him?" Then the only things that get linked is the thread on twitter about white supremacy and an article he wrote from 2005. The rest of it is just circlejerky call and response poo poo. The only good short response was the one along the lines of "he's a civil libertarian who takes it to extreme lengths" IMO.

From the very first few posts, he thinks Democrats are the real racists and the GOP socialists.

Dude sucks.

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