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What did you expect after that pretty good NKG run? Alxprit posted:The message I took away from the ending initially was that this game was saying that Dark is Good and Light is Bad, which is a fun situation to be in for once. I dont think thats true for reasons shown in the godhome. The void/dark is some kind of primal force that the hallownest bugs worshipped or at least venerated long before the game happens and possibly long before the moths started worshipping THE LAMP. But the cosmology is a bit of a mess in hollow knight since theres so many overlapping concepts. What are higher beings? Wyrms? SOUL? Why do things linger in dreams and why do dreams have power? Do bugs have sapience without being 'uplifted' by a higher being? All things that are only ever vaguely addressed.
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In terms of where we go. I want to show the Godhome ending, whatever that may be. I don't obviously know what the best way to tackle it is going to look like. If it seems doable with a week of practice then we'll extend the LP to cover it within regular episodes. If not then we're probably going to try to end this week and have Godhome and The Path of Pain as streams on the channel. Mainly we want to be ready ahead of Metroid Dread's release at the end of October and in an ideal world we want to fit It Takes Two in as a cooldown LP for the intermission.
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Aug 21, 2021 14:01
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Doing the Radiance first try is up there with doing the Pale Flower quest on the first try as the most impressive things you've accomplished in this game. I'm really looking forward toi you tackling Godhome, I think you can do it, unlike most of us mere mortals.
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Aug 23, 2021 23:42
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Came to this thread after finishing the game myself because I wanted more Hollow Knight. Figures I'd get here near the end, haha. It's fascinating seeing how different playthroughs of this game are. Hell, I didn't find the tram pass or kingdom's edge until after I beat the Hollow Knight the first time.
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Aug 24, 2021 00:31
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Uumuu in Godhome used to be significantly more bullshit - it had at least as much health as it does in the game and I don't think it summoned as many jellies either. It got retuned to fit in a bit better with the challenge levels of the others. I feel like it would have worked fine to just put Quirrel in there though, rather than do this alternative thing. Sly is an excellent boss fight. Just such a fun moveset to fight against. And the Eternal Ordeal is a fantastic easter egg, I love it so much. Don't think I ever managed to get further than around the point you did there, though. Not a lot of opportunities to heal.
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Aug 24, 2021 00:32
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I like to think that the player's experience fighting Sly is how all the other bosses feel about fighting the Knight. Just a tiny little gently caress who zips around like a maniac and slaps you across the pavement.
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Aug 24, 2021 01:03
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im ahead due to the patreon but jesus christ tea look what you’ve created
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Issuing a slight correction here - Grimm's body will TINK your nail while he's doing pufferfish. Spells like the scream and beam will do damage though.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:im ahead due to the patreon but jesus christ tea look what you’ve created It was really weird watching Nat finally go back to fight the Hollow Knight again and actually struggle slightly, on his way to oneshot the Radiance. Cause I'd fought the Hollow Knight so many times by then I knew his routine inside out and was like, "man I could do this fight so much better", it was such a rare unusual feeling lol
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The number of Zotes to kill in order to "complete" The Eternal Ordeal is, of course, 57. It can be done! E: Also GPZ in Godhome has all of the moves that he would eventually get if you kept fighting him in Bretta's house, but his damage doesn't scale the way that I think it does there. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Aug 24, 2021 |
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Aug 24, 2021 01:29
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You're gonna need a bigger Zote.
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Aug 24, 2021 06:18
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Delivering the delicate flower after the sidequest is easy, it doesn't do autosave shenanigans after, so you can just plop on the nearest bench to your target, grab a flower from the grave and then reload.
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Aug 24, 2021 06:29
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Quackles posted:You're gonna need a bigger Zote. 
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Aug 24, 2021 07:41
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Great Nailsage Sly has a cute little trivia: He's using the Nailmaster's Glory badge, because his nail arts only have a .2 second charge-up compared to the half-second of Oro, Mato, and Sheo. Knowing this doesn't help you beat the Yoda-rear end bastard, of course.
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Aug 24, 2021 08:37
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You skipped the other ending from the void heart vs black egg that tea was trying to take you to by having you NOT.
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Aug 24, 2021 13:27
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Seems pretty anti-climactic to shoot for that on purpose first time, though. Just following through in the cool big moment when Hornet shows up is the way to go. The "sit on your rear end not dream nailing" ending is just a little variant, really.
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Aug 24, 2021 13:35
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I practiced Sly for an hour and change, made absolutely no progress in figuring him out, and decided I was satisfied with 110% completion, a 5h speedrun completion and a steel soul 100% completion. I love this game but I don't love twitchy precision fights like nkg or yoda enough to grind practice what's left at this point. I know you can do 112%, you god-gamer you. Also, re: completion, let me add a correction to what Tea said: You don't need to beat stronger Zotes, the Eternal Ordeal or finish the Bestiary for that extra 2%,. Spoiler for what you have to do (no explicit names given) beat pantheon 3 & the mysterious last boss the statue said was left.
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Aug 24, 2021 14:23
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Beating Sly on my first attempt was the only time I ever got close to Nat-esque savantness in this game where almost every other difficult boss took me steady repeated practice to overcome. Needless to say I felt vindicated for every “you made that look so goddamn easy” moment to date.
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Aug 24, 2021 15:41
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Quick tip for Uumuu: because the jellyfish enemies will get knocked back slightly when they die, you can use that hit to bat them into Uumuu. No need to get it on the rebound.
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Aug 24, 2021 16:25
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Full binding stream? Or/and radiant fights? Nat's proved he's good, but godhome always has more challenges to offer.
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Full binding stream? Or/and radiant fights? Nat's proved he's good, but godhome always has more challenges to offer. I don't know what the first thing is, but definitely no radiant fights. At the point where you just get oneshot I don't really feel like they're fun any more. So much of what's cool about combat in this game is how you're able to do things like leverage your health or knowledge that you can regen for more damage by tanking. Or alternatively how you can alter your strategy at low health to try and stall for the next healing window. There's certainly something cool about never getting hit but it feels much more in the purview of speedrunners rather than a Blind LPer such as myself.
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I'm so glad you showed off the Eternal Ordeal, I love that ridiculous fight.  And yep, you unlock a boss in the Hall of Gods once you've encountered it in a pantheon or defeated it in the regular game. I actually used that to complete the Hunter's Journal: I was missing God Tamer, because I could never reach the end of the Trial of the Fool. But you can enter the third pantheon without having encountered God Tamer (she's an exception from the normal pantheon unlocking rules), so I played through the first part of that pantheon to unlock her in the Hall and then just played the fight there until I managed to beat her. Dareon posted:Great Nailsage Sly has a cute little trivia: He's using the Nailmaster's Glory badge, because his nail arts only have a .2 second charge-up compared to the half-second of Oro, Mato, and Sheo. I don't think he's using the charm, I think he's just that good and equipping Nailmaster's Glory makes you as good as he is.
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Natural 20 posted:I don't know what the first thing is, but definitely no radiant fights. At the point where you just get oneshot I don't really feel like they're fun any more. Fair enough. The pantheons give you the option of disabling charms, limiting nail damage, reducing masks, and holding more than one use of soul, or any combination thereof. Full bindings can be a slog, and you probably wouldn't enjoy the charm or soul ones for similar reasons to the radiant fights, if not as extreme.
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Aug 24, 2021 19:57
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the humming music in that last fight is amazing wouldn't you need to kill 57 zotes? one for each of his motto things?
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It actually wasn't the grave of the Traitor's Child back there, it was Cloth's grave! It has her club laid out in front of it and everything. 
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You'll note that the Pure Vessel didn't scream like other bosses: its 'scream' was silent. After all, being Pure, it has no voice to cry suffering. That boss battle also has one of my favourite songs in the game, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35pUQDrKy5A (As always with youtube, don't look through the comments if you don't want spoilers.)
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Aug 26, 2021 00:02
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Pure Vessel is so drat cool.
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Aug 26, 2021 00:57
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Well, you've finally reached content I was never able to get to! Pure Vessel is pretty awesome.
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Aug 26, 2021 01:15
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The ease with which you’ve sailed through the game never ceases to impress me! Also, gotta say, for a moment Tea’s sound effects this episode made me wonder if he was working on a particularly challenging poo while watching the stream.
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Hi hello welcome to the best boss fight in the game. No I will not be taking any questions at this time.
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Aug 26, 2021 02:26
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Pure Vessel looks fun though. I bet Nat will enjoy this fight.
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Welp, now we're getting into the realm of what could have been. Imagine if our Knight had been the Vessel instead of that one. Imagine if the seal had held. Imagine if the Pale King had known that you could fight the Radiance within a dream.
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So, funny thing about Sly's second phase, the distance between you and him after each spin is just the right length for a nail art. Once you figured that out, the second phase is much easier to handle. Also, ascended Markoth is prob one of the most difficult / hated bosses in the game. Eeepies fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Aug 26, 2021 |
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Aug 26, 2021 09:07
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C-Euro posted:Hi hello welcome to the best boss fight in the game. No I will not be taking any questions at this time. Impossible. It's not Sisters of Battle.
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Aug 26, 2021 09:39
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The true way to play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKunxVcLv9g
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Aug 27, 2021 00:44
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Hey guys new episode is up but I'm limited by my rampant alcoholism. I'll create a link as soon as I can.
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Aug 27, 2021 22:38
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It's up on the YouTube channel, and re: Nosk and Mantis Lords, you might not have found them yet but if you open a new save file on Godseeker mode, all of the bosses in the hall are unlocked. If for whatever reason you never find them on this run, you can always pop in and check them out there.
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