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PostNouveau posted:They had some dumb technobabble from Cecil and Donald about how they'd measured her somehow and determined scientifically that she was going to beat his rear end real bad. Her age is over 9000!
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PostNouveau posted:They had some dumb technobabble from Cecil and Donald about how they'd measured her somehow and determined scientifically that she was going to beat his rear end real bad. Looking at prime Tyson and saying Johnny Depp has no chance based on their physical builds isn't all that dumb.
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Mar 29, 2024 00:16
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They scanned her and said her bones and muscles are really dense so she was gonna beat Mark's rear end, he only had an 18% chance of not getting his rear end whooped. The monster was a pretty effective measuring stick too, it's not like he had any reason to hold back there and she was just plain more capable.
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Mar 29, 2024 00:18
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I don't know if this is the intention of the episode, but it kind of feels like in 2024 space fascists offering to unfuck everything is a pretty good deal
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Mar 29, 2024 00:51
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i get it i just don't buy that mark's personal aversion to violence could cause him to have huge bruises and blood wounds on his face that seems...........UNLIKELY unless he was a bitch
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Mar 29, 2024 01:21
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and if he wants to have the slightest chance against the viltrumites, he needs to learn how to not be a complete and utter bitch. does this make sense.
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Mar 29, 2024 01:22
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Cecil mentioned bone and muscle density, which must increase as a Viltrumite ages or recovers from a beating. I think Cecil's "workout" is going to involve industrial presses and mechanical stompers.
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Mar 29, 2024 01:55
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well yeah cecil is a totaly like 'this is muscles' reference
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Mar 29, 2024 02:15
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rex is loving pissing me off. either be strong or die, bitch.
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Mar 29, 2024 02:15
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Also there is an in comics reason for the Viltrumites acting all weird about this poo poo and just not straight taking Earth immediately.
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Mar 29, 2024 02:28
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Mark gave it the college try...
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Collateral posted:
 Perfect timing for me to mention that.
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Mar 29, 2024 02:52
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wow, Mark sucks, does he ever do anything other than get beat up all the time.
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Mar 29, 2024 02:54
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jesus idiots do you have absolute nothing to say about this? looks good bitch talk to me or what is it...........a beach? you loving whore
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Y'know, I don't think that Rudy has shown anyone his original body before he got his new one. It would probably help people get where he's coming from and why he barely shows any emotion on his face. I hope that comes up in the future, I know there's lots of comic to go.
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Mar 29, 2024 03:46
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I really like how they updated the character relationships for the show so that everyone isn't as horrible and douchey as the characters were in the early 2000s comics. The non-toxic masculinity with Rex and Invincible in this episode was great.
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Mar 29, 2024 03:56
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it annoys me that two guys talking has to be classed as 'non toxic masculinity' guys do actually talk from time to loving time, jesus christ. it's not all about your zeitgeist.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:03
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I have utterly loved William in this show and he was not exactly a huge part of the comics.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:11
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roomtone posted:it annoys me that two guys talking has to be classed as 'non toxic masculinity' Okay but rex was previously toxic as gently caress in ways that we'd normally call toxic masculinity, so the contrast is relevant.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:27
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TGG posted:Also there is an in comics reason for the Viltrumites acting all weird about this poo poo and just not straight taking Earth immediately. Not that I recall, they just have a system in place and are following the template for taking over every other planet they've conquered.
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TGG posted:I have utterly loved William in this show and he was not exactly a huge part of the comics. The show took advantage of the fact that the writers know where character plotbeats go to make the early arcs less weird and lame in regards to the side characters. Both William and Amber are much better in the show than in the comics.
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Adder Moray posted:Viltrumites age extremely slowly, and she clearly looks like a fit human woman in their late 50s/early 60s. Meaning, while she almost certainly had a few good centuries left ahead of her, she was pretty mature. I think that was just an animation quirk. I’d place Anissa in her early to mid 30s in viltrumite equivalent years or whatever
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Mar 29, 2024 05:02
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Anissa also seems a cut above most Viltrumites, though we don't really have a baseline. Nolan is apparently exemplary and he was given a task of soloing a planet. They sent three Viltrumites to take him down and pulled off a draw because he had his son to distract one of them. Anissa seems like she's in the same league (or like an inspection officer for the solo conquerors).
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Mar 29, 2024 05:05
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Anissa is apparently fairly old, based on this line from the comic (that was cut from the episode for very good reason!) when Allen socks her in the face. That or she speed-ran at least four marriages.
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Mar 29, 2024 05:08
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Yeah, she's like 200-300, but I meant in human aging terms she's like mid 30s in physical development in human terms
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Nuebot posted:The show took advantage of the fact that the writers know where character plotbeats go to make the early arcs less weird and lame in regards to the side characters. Both William and Amber are much better in the show than in the comics. This is easily the strongest point for season 1 alongside the remixed Guardians takedown in episode 1. In the comics Mark comes back from some adventure or another and William is just like 'oh hey I'm gay now, cyborg guy is my boyfriend' and Mark is like '...cool' and I think it's never mentioned again. And Amber literally doesn't speak for the first several issues in which she appears and never really develops beyond anything other than Trophy Girlfriend. Show Amber is kind of annoying, but at least she elicits AN emotion beyond 
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Takes No Damage posted:Not that I recall, they just have a system in place and are following the template for taking over every other planet they've conquered.
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Mar 29, 2024 05:48
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This whole time you all were talking about Viltrumite women ages and I thought you meant that lady that gutted Mark with her hair-knife.
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RareAcumen posted:This whole time you all were talking about Viltrumite women ages and I thought you meant that lady that gutted Mark with her hair-knife. ...were they not? The lady from this episode doesn't look remotely old, while braidknife at least was grey and had a few wrinkles I think?
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Good Citizen posted:I think that was just an animation quirk. I’d place Anissa in her early to mid 30s in viltrumite equivalent years or whatever That post is talking about Thula RareAcumen posted:This whole time you all were talking about Viltrumite women ages and I thought you meant that lady that gutted Mark with her hair-knife. Correct. Good Citizen is confused. Adder Moray fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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I think part of the reason they are being weird about earth is that they are too prideful - they can't handle the idea that someone like them, in this case Mark, might disagree with their idiotic behaviour, so are desperate to prove Nolan to be an outlier by radicalising his son. Also they want to prove to Mark that they were right all along. It's like the aliens in The Worlds End - they are embarrassed to have to admit that their methods didn't work because they had to replace 80% of humanity with robots because we are just loving idiots. If the Viltrumites beat Mark to death, they simply prove him right.
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I love the fact that the Viltrumite sales pitch is "We're going to give you medical supplies and prosperity, and we'll kill as many of you as possible to make it happen."
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I love the fact that the Viltrumite sales pitch is "We're going to give you medical supplies and prosperity, and we'll kill as many of you as possible to make it happen." It's the Peacemaker pitch. I cherish peace with all of my heart. I don't care how many men, women and children I kill to get it.
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TGG posted:Also there is an in comics reason for the Viltrumites acting all weird about this poo poo and just not straight taking Earth immediately. I suppose when you live for thousands of years, holding off an invasion for two of three years is nothing. Also, they've mentioned that Viltrumites don't fight each other and seem to honestly want Mark to come around to becoming one of them.
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TGG posted:I've not bothered to look it up but aren't there less than like 500 hundred actual Viltrumites? Also they do not actually have a viable birth chance with many races, so Nolan managing 2 powered babys is loving stunning even if the dumb fucks would murder one of them out of weird racial purity poo poo. Thaedus dropped his super virus on the race and it pretty much made them extinct so they infiltrate planets, conquer them, see if they are power fuckable, if not they install a government and move on. I could completely be wrong, it's been ages and my brain is not working 100% IIRC its something like 30 left. They want to colonize Earth because they've been looking for species they could use to repopulate their numbers with approximately the same power. Also they're incredibly long-lived, so waiting for a few years to win Mark over isn't a big deal
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Thula, the viltrumite warrior with the bladed hair was shown to be a survivor of the great purge when it was being discussed in season 1. Which was over 1000 years ago. So she's easily 2000+.
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It's crazy how different your perspective would be if you lived 2000 years, and I think the show really did a good job of making the comparison with the bugs. Like how far could any of the humans really care about an individual bug. "Oh yeah that guy who dressed up as magic dog is dead now." "Oh. Huh."
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Spanish Matlock posted:It's crazy how different your perspective would be if you lived 2000 years, and I think the show really did a good job of making the comparison with the bugs. Like how far could any of the humans really care about an individual bug. I mean that's how I feel about middle-age. "Growing up means watching everyone you ever saw on TV die."  Lou Gossett Jr.
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I'll be really interested to see how they make the Viltrumites seem less reasonable. I can't really think of a single government on earth that I wouldn't definitely replace with space gods. Like what color of people do the space gods not like? What kind of sex do they think is weird? My point is I think the Viltrumites would absolutely have a significant chance of winning a global election.
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