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Yes. | 76 | 50.67% | |
No. | 74 | 49.33% | |
Total: | 127 votes |
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RFC2324 posted:Was it spending? I thought that program was donations of gear from the military to the police In theory it makes sense. The military has a guaranteed federal budget and often outgrows perfectly serviceable equipment. Why not throw some surplus stuff to law enforcement that doesn't have the same requirements about interoperability, etc? No reason not to make public spending more efficient. But because cops, it ends up with local budgets supporting ridiculous maintenance costs on equipment that has no business being used by civilians.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2021 18:12 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:31 |
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Sacrist65 posted:What the clip maybe doesn't show is the LT had been stopped long enough for backup to arrive, so maybe he was refusing lawful orders for a while at that point? Declining to provide license and registration, that sort of thing? Let's assume this scenario you pulled directly out of your rear end is accurate. How does that in any way justify the cops' behavior?
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 13:49 |
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bulletsponge13 posted:The easy solution you'll never see. Britain has the right idea by disarming most patrol officers and requiring them to escalate to armed cops. But since that will never happen in the US, I've always thought the least objectionable way to deal with police shootings was to work off their laziness. Cops get to keep their guns, but drawing one breaks a seal that requires hours and hours of justification and paperwork with independent review until they are allowed to get it back.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 20:59 |
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Godholio posted:Yes, a nationally empowered locally operating police force under direct control of the president. This is a wonderful idea. On one hand, local law enforcement is thuggish and unaccountable. On the other hand, quote:“When you see these towns and when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough, and I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’ “ Trump told the audience of law enforcement officers at Suffolk County Community College in Brentwood, N.Y. quote:In a 2017 phone call, Trump told Duterte, “I just wanted to congratulate you because I am hearing of the unbelievable job on the drug problem. Many countries have the problem, we have a problem, but what a great job you are doing and I just wanted to call and tell you that.” quote:“When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength.”
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2021 03:06 |
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Wasabi the J posted:Y'all reinvented SWAT. Except instead of every other cop gearing up like they're SWAT, the idea is that they're the only ones with guns while regular beat officers are disarmed. e: Also accountability and standards. Federal law enforcement has plenty of issues, but if every local department that wanted to deploy armed cops had to deal with federal standards and oversight that would be an improvement. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Apr 12, 2021 |
# ¿ Apr 12, 2021 01:10 |
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wins32767 posted:Separating the devices so that it's less likely that an officer is going to have both is a good control measure if they keep buying gun shaped tasers. Other changes that could work: opposite handed grips, activation buttons controlled by the thumb, different form factors. Police departments were private businesses, threats of lawsuits would force them to adapt. It's not entirely clear to me why that doesn't work against municipalities. Other changes that could work: take away guns from all but a handful of cops responding to specific situations. Much harder to shoot someone if you aren't armed.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2021 21:34 |
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PookBear posted:Please stop being a dumbass and repeating this. If the global economy collapses like it did during the great depression and it falls in half, then someone worth 40 billion is now worth 20 billion. External shocks can upend wealth distribution. From what I recall from Capital in the 21st Century, the world wars were the most redistributive events in western Europe over the last few hundred years. When there are actual existential threats to society, preserving capital structures suddenly falls down the priority list. For a few decades after the second world war, the UK and France were arguably socialist countries (based on public ownership of capital) and saw broad increases in standards of living as a result. But despite that the general trend over the last few decades is towards privatization and a wider wealth disparity again.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2021 15:33 |
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Withdrawing troops from Afghanistan doesn't mean we stop droning weddings, does it?
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2021 17:39 |
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Finland as mentioned above, but that system is just as bad, it assumes a person doesn’t have substantial expenses and just treats there income as all profit (and no I’m defending the super rich, just idea of pegging it to income), which I don’t like. I mean what if you lost your job, medical emergencies, kid related things, I just don’t like it. Make it percentage of wealth and there's no problem. Either way there's no reason to involve police. Mail the tickets or use unarmed traffic enforcement, no one needs to have their lives threatened over a moving violation.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2021 22:49 |
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US Berder Patrol posted:bail money is bullshit It is*, someone who is a clear public threat like Rittenhouse shouldn't be offered bail for any price. Just because a bunch if internet racists have his back doesn't make him less of a danger. *maybe it can work if bail is set at a percentage of wealth, but it's such an abusive practice that getting rid of cash bail is probably the better option
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 16:38 |
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e: open in new tab for huge
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 18:08 |
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Bored As gently caress posted:Bail reform is definitely needed, but getting rid of cash bail altogether without mandating that violent offenses aren't eligible for bail is a recipe for disaster. Look at how many people who have warrants out for violent offenses, and go on to commit further violent crimes. That poo poo just discredits (in the public's eyes) the entire "end cash bail" movement, which in reality is meant to make sure poor people arrested for Nonviolent or petty offenses aren't sitting in jail for months or years. Like defunding the police, ending cash bail isn't an immediately obvious phrase. A suspect should be kept in jail or released pending trial regardless of financial circumstances - ending cash bail doesn't mean a suspect can't be remanded. There's some historical logic around cash bail and it could potentially be reformed in a more equitable way, but in practice today it means poor people sit in jail for while other people go home for the same crimes. This also impacts how plea deals go down, since poor people are pressured to agree to something to get a chance to go home.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2021 18:27 |
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hobbesmaster posted:https://twitter.com/mnnationalguard/status/1383808422190059541?s=21 It's honestly shocking how rarely cops, prosecutors, and judges are actually targeted in the US. With so many lives and families destroyed, you would expect more people taking that personally.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 03:58 |
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davecrazy posted:Why can’t the EU and Canada and all these counties with real functional healthcare systems not vaccinate at the same rate at as the US with our god awful lay-down-in-the-street-and-die “healthcare” system? The short answer is that we did the opposite of everything that makes most healthcare in the US a nightmare. The government basically strongarmed vaccine manufacturers while throwing piles of money at them to secure a supply, and there's no up front cost to people getting the vaccine.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 14:46 |
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Took almost a year to go from this garbage: to a conviction.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 00:22 |
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Bored As gently caress posted:Maybe don't attack and stab people? She was actively stabbing that poor girl.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 05:02 |
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bengy81 posted:If it's small enough and flying at a low enough altitude it would be processed out as chaff. There are other things that could happen too, and they mostly involve a whole lot of people being negligent/loving stupid. It's in intelligence failure, but presumably nothing that can carry enough high explosives to be a risk to a boat is getting that close.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 03:37 |
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facialimpediment posted:luv 2 plastic bag my tiny wood
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 14:56 |
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FrozenVent posted:So what happened in Israel last night anyway? As far as is being reported today, a Syrian SAM fired at an Israeli plane, missed, and it landed near an Israeli nuclear site. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Apr 22, 2021 |
# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 18:33 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Why is that poo poo legal again? It's not. Setting off 50+lb at a time is considered misuse and can be prosecuted. It's meant to be used like a quarter pound at a time at a distance of hundreds of yards. The explosion in question happened at a ready mix concrete supplier. Not sure what the justification is but I would guess it was an industrial purchase. e: It also probably helps that no one that has failed a paper bag test has hurt anyone with it to date. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 22, 2021 |
# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 23:00 |
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Here's a link about it. Is it more efficient than 4-5 737s doing the same thing? Wouldn't the smaller planes also be more flexible? Bigger isn't always better.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 05:04 |
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Stravag posted:The one time this supreme court would embrace socialism would be to mandate everyone carries a gun at all times or faces fines Except you still have to buy the gun yourself, and police won't be punished for mag dumping into you if you fail the paper bag test.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 16:36 |
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That Works posted:If SCOTUS ended up shifting every state to "shall issue" that would be nice and if it was universal reciprocity that would be even nicer. Sure, there's no downside to more people walking around with pistols in their pockets.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 20:33 |
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That Works posted:Have you gone through a CCW process and do you know the difference between may and shall issue? The difference is that with "may issue" just ticking the checkboxes isn't a guarantee to get a carry license, you have to demonstrate a reason to do so. Shifting to "shall issue" would result in more people walking around with guns, that doesn't seem like a controversial statement.
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 20:41 |
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That Works posted:You think a process that still requires you to submit finger prints to your local sheriff or AG's office, have a notarized witness attesting to your character and have a criminal background check run is going to represent a risk for ownership? Yes, someone carrying around a gun is more dangerous than someone not carrying around a gun. Even if they aren't out to murder someone, they can have an accident, are more likely to succesfully kill themselves, can lose the gun, and can misjudge when it is appropriate to shoot someone. quote:CCW holders aren't typically carrying out gun involved crimes and the ambiguity with laws on CCW between states / inconsistent policies even between cities within states can be used as a way to push charges on people. How authorities decide who to apply charges to is an exercise for the reader. Then address those enforcement discrepancies directly. Making it easier to carry a gun in public in a country with a major gun safety problem is a step backwards. Not going to carry on a gun debate, but the assumed ruling from the Supreme Court here is going to put more guns in public. What your take on that is your own I guess. AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Apr 26, 2021 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2021 20:54 |
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:I don’t know poo poo about poo poo, but, I feel like a bit crash is coming. A lot of things seem to be going absurdly well, considering the pandemic—like there’s excess wealth circulating. Never mind the money printer being turned on for unemployment etc. Real estate has only gone up and up during the pandemic, which cannot be a good sign. Unless you can accurately predict the timing, it doesn't really matter too much if "a crash is coming" as far as making investing decisions. Even if you saw the writing on the wall about the 2007 crash years in the early 00s, acting on it then would have caused you to miss out on the gains/dividends until the crash. And then unless you buy back in at the right time you're going to miss a lot of the recovery. Diversified buy and hold with occasional rebalancing is usually the way to go for retail investing.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 15:31 |
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Best Friends posted:E: on MMA, it's weird how consistently the fighters are to the right of the fans, and by a lot. I legit think cte causes chudiness Is the cage made out of lead or something? It really is an odd phenomenon.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2021 22:12 |
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Untagged posted:A lot of PDs switched to the Explorer / F-150 since the Crown Vic was retired by Ford. It's mostly just because cops want to look down on other people, and no one is going to tell them to stay on a budget. Same basic reason suburban dads buy pickup trucks or SUVs.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2021 21:56 |
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CommieGIR posted:I did not hear this part of those Georgia guys, I mean I already knew they murdered him, but the loving cop shows up and says this poo poo Is this person still a cop, or facing any consequences at all? Pretty sure I know the answer before asking, just want to make sure.
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2021 23:56 |
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bulletsponge13 posted:Sorry I just dumped my purse. Lmao Jumping on the "thanks for sharing your truth" bandwagon with zero irony.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 03:05 |
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wins32767 posted:Google translate admittedly, but that reads more like a call to do something more about the regular terror attacks France has been facing. The line in question reads more like "we can't just sit here while you don't act [so we wrote this letter]". What does "do something" mean about an issue that kills 5-10 people a year? The underlying message is that civil liberties need to be cut back for something that's less of a risk than kids falling into pools.
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 15:40 |
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wins32767 posted:That's very different than military rule. I'm sure I wouldn't agree with their proposals but we should be clear about facts versus taking whatever a random twitter user thinks they're saying. I don't know what you're reading, but it's clearly a revanchist manifesto that threatens the breakdown of civil society if something isn't done about "the others". Written and signed by (ex) military leadership. "Do what we demand or civil war is inevitable" is an obvious threat. e: context: quote:Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Government Ladies and Gentlemen of the Parliament AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Apr 29, 2021 |
# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 16:18 |
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facialimpediment posted:Rudy speaks! But Hunter Biden! quote:Hilary Clinton How do these people keep issuing press releases without even bothering to proofread them?
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2021 17:11 |
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Godholio posted:My next few major purchases are all planned out, but this thread is making me wish a telescope was higher on the list...probably towards the end of the year, barring anything unexpected. I'm not far from places with extremely low light pollution and I want to actually start taking advantage of it. Buy a cheap one in the meantime. You can spend like $50 on one that is surprisingly functional while you plan for a proper telescope.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2021 05:02 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 04:31 |
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hannibal posted:What sort of stuff do you want to look at? Light pollution is not always a problem. I live near DC and do astrophotography and it's mostly fine. Planets are visible just about anywhere (horizon is usually the issue) and of course the Moon is doable regardless. I don't have any words for this other than awesome.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2021 05:12 |