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Thom12255 posted:You're right the history of the police is overwhelmingly negative - that doesn't mean every individual police officer is a racist wanting to murder all black people. Maybe he is! But we have nothing to go on so maybe don't let it bias how you view that video. I've never really found the idea of trying to identify "individual" racism that useful in conversations like these. What I think is pretty likely is that the cop had been trained, officially and unofficially, to understand that in an altercation involving a bunch of black people, he can kill pretty much indiscriminately without consequence, because that's how policing in the United States works. So when things get chaotic, he just starts shooting people. US cops only have incentives to move in one direction on the use of force continuum. Now, in this particular case, the video paints a compelling picture that him shooting the person he shot at the time he did was more defensible of an action than the average cop shooting is. But the analysis to look for is broader than "he was a good cop who did the right thing" or "he was a bad cop who did the wrong thing."
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Harold Fjord posted:Murder has a pretty specific meaning that probably doesn't apply to a child who was being threatened and everyone is real quick to decide, based on video released by the cops to protect themselves, that she wasn't actually threatened but was the aggressor and had it coming because she was about to become a violent murderess. Please forgive my skepticism Did you watch the video?
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Gumball Gumption posted:You're infected with American cowboy logic if you think that was the proper way to stop her. He has pepper spray, he has a tazer, and he has a baton. He had many non-lethal options. Everything points to this being a dude looking for an excuse and he's being given one. Did you watch the video?
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Vorik posted:A knife is a deadly weapon and the appropriate response to an attack with a deadly weapon is lethal force if other methods aren’t guaranteed to work. Fister Roboto's position appears to be that police should never use deadly force, even to ostensibly impede other deadly force, which honestly is a coherent and defensible position, if an unusual one in this country.
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PT6A posted:Brock Turner was shown leniency that most other people convicted of similar crimes at that age are not, and probably too much leniency at that, but the reasoning isn't inherently unsound if applied equally and reasonably. An interesting fact about the Brock Turner case is that the judge was arguably doing just that.
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