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Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

DrSunshine posted:

Life is incredibly precious and beautiful beyond all measure. It is the only example we know of of mute physics and chemistry creating order out of a soup of nothingness. Against all odds, it is a negentropic process that by pure chance appears to have spontaneously arisen only once in this cosmos - as far as we know. It is the only process that exists on Earth that does not merely dissipate, but also propagates. It is, as Darwin wrote, endless forms most beautiful.

The fact that somehow, out of 4 billion years of life's existence on this planet, now there are life forms that can contemplate not only their own existence, but the well being of other life forms, and value the existence not only of their own progeny but every ant, microbe or blade of grass, is nothing short of miraculous. It may very well be the only chance that terrestrial life has of, possibly, surviving past the fiery death that is the Sun's middle age.

And instead we're going to snuff it out for the sake of making imaginary numbers go up.

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Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Cabbages and Kings posted:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40062938?seq=1

this seems contrary to that idea. sorry you're unhappy?

I was also happy in 1996

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Trying to puzzle out the rules of greater ethics and the meaning of meaning is overdoing it, imo, when the real crux is that the immediate future is loving bleak. Having a kid now just means they'll come of age right after the fifth once-in-a-century economic collapse and be stuck making $2.13/day in balmy Alaska.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

The only reason war stopped is we built weapons powerful and all-consuming enough to trip enough people’s self-preservation instincts.

Good thing there’s nothing on the horizon that might make people desperate enough to risk it anyway

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Mulva posted:

Also a lot of doomposters act like "Climate change" is a thing that will jump out of a dark alley and knife people. What, exactly, do you imagine is going to cause wealthy and powerful nations to collapse

Disease.

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Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Mulva posted:

The type of thing where you blink and 4,000,000 people died in a second, out of nowhere, for no real cause we can predict. It's never going to be that, all the causes of death and distress will be seen from a thousand miles and decades in time away.

Covid came out of nowhere, swept over the whole world and is currently at 3.4 million dead.

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