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Nah OP. Kids are cool.
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OwlFancier posted:Well I don't have a thing that I can just shoot at people to make them die of happiness. And again, doing that would make other people pretty unhappy. Holy poo poo guy, this is obviously false. People get really sad about not being able to have children all the time. Have you ever met a person?
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Apr 4, 2021 00:40
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OwlFancier posted:Barring some quibbles about the deterministic nature of the universe I agree with the most of the first four paragraphs but there is a bit of a jump between that and "therefore we need more of this" and especially the idea that conscious life can, in the face of the complexity of the universe, actually make the world more preferable to itself on a macro scale. I think it more likely that we do not posess the organizational capacity to do that and will probably end up stuck in a sort of loop of growth and collapse like all other forms of life. https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312?s=20
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Apr 4, 2021 01:52
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OwlFancier posted:That assumes there is some special value in life existing, which again I do not think there is. This is why everyone thinks you're a dumbass, if you were wondering. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 4, 2021 17:48
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:The difference is that procreating, by definition, requires bringing a sapient being into existence that didn't before, without its consent to do so. That sentient being also can't offer you their preference on being alive, seeing as they don't exist and all. Personally I'm very glad my parents had a child as I greatly prefer being alive to the non-existence that came before it. Does that preference and the belief that one can provide a generally healthy/happy life for a child count for nothing?
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Apr 7, 2021 00:26
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Life has a negative value because life is intrinsically and inalterably comprised of more suffering than anything else. As such it is immoral to reproduce, thus subjecting another person to that suffering. Non-existence is always preferable to existence. If I had a big button that killed all humans everywhere instantly and painlessly I would hit it because that would forever end all human suffering. Do I have that right?
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Apr 9, 2021 00:55
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Beelzebufo posted:Moral Philosophy What is someone who actually knows what they're talking about doing in this thread? I'm not sure that's allowed.
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Apr 9, 2021 01:15
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CountryMatters posted:Most of us are actually having a good time and don't think that living is misery. Later maybe I'll gently caress my husband and get high. It'll be great That does sound pretty great. I think I have a good counter for the life is suffering crowd. https://youtu.be/eLstg78SxUQ
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Gatts posted:Not sure but I think finding a way to reduce human population on earth to 2 billion would be beneficial until we can colonize other worlds and build a sustainable supply chain or terraform or O’Neil Cylinders or something and then control human development until we wanna build poo poo like Star Lifting and can traverse stars but that requires thinking beyond just the individual Why do you think this would be helpful?
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