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Harold Fjord posted:What about ai? Is it ethical to invent a creature which can suffer? What about a creature that can't suffer? What if someone made an AI that sensed pleasure a trillion times more than humans and the utility function dictated we had to give all our food to it because it eating it caused more joy per bite than the whole human race combined eating it would have. Thus making humans eating food always immoral.
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NikkolasKing posted:What about the "fact" we care most about people close to us because we're just not designed to operate in a globalized world order where we are connected to people on the other side of the planet? We naturally care most for our family or community above all else because of evolution and that's how humans were for most of our existence? Seems like if any of that was true then as the world got more crowed violence and stuff would go up and up and up. But both at a group level (war) and a personal level (murder) people have been pretty steadily being better and better at getting along peacefully for centuries. The more people are the nicer we get, apparently.  
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May 15, 2021 23:17
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Byzantine posted:The only reason war stopped is we built weapons powerful and all-consuming enough to trip enough people’s self-preservation instincts. Sounds like if the amount of war and death went up, down or stayed the same you'd equally say that was proof that humans were violent sin cursed beasts. As it stands, subtracting this future war you know about and promise will come that we can't get any stats about, it seems pretty clear human violence of all kinds has declined dramatically and steadily as human population has grown. Across a bunch of different cultures.
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May 15, 2021 23:40
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Josef bugman posted:The ice sheets are melting mate. The idea that there is infinite growth available on a finite planet is not exactly a sustainable system now is it? I mean, I am sure that final battle on the plains of megiddo is going to happen any minute now, just like always. But until that happens the actual data we have currently does not seem to show a world where more people means more war and violence, people seem to be more empathetic and kind as there is more people. Or at least the two things are uncoupled and unrelated and there being vastly more people does not apparently show any amount of more violence as it scales up.
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May 16, 2021 01:13
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Car Hater posted:Nah I'll stick with it thanks, one more for the big list of things that should not be but are anyways Who made that list?
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Car Hater posted:Because we're already extinct and it's fun to tilt at windmills about why. :P That does not sound like.... what current science says is happening.
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