Out of the Park Baseball: torn flexor tendon, 10-11 months

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Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

I love ootp and you're doing good work bewbies

i play this game way too much.

# ¿ May 1, 2021 16:15

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 17:50

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

The best way to play OOTP is to build up a super team and then immediately head to the worst possible team as soon as you win the world series.

With that said, join the A's

(The 2nd best way is to play the smallest ball possible and have 70+ contact in every position and bat above .300 as a team)

# ¿ May 6, 2021 03:56

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Nothing is more fun in ootp than taking an absolute garbage fire of a team and minor league system and turning it into a powerhouse over a few seasons. The game is probably a bit too "easy" but its such a consistently enjoyable gameplay loop that I don't really care.

e: that said the AI does seem a lot better in 22 in building consistently good teams. In 20 and 21 they'd often end up bogged down in giant contracts to terrible players and its obviously better at handling it now.

Schnorkles fucked around with this message at 16:12 on May 6, 2021

# ¿ May 6, 2021 16:09

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

Also I just looked: Pedro Uribe's line (the knuckleballer from the last draft) in rookie ball: 7.1 IP, 24 hits, 17 ER, 4.23 WHIP.

Small sample size, but that knuckleball may not be knuckling enough....

Open up the editor and put that knuckleball to 250

# ¿ May 7, 2021 04:34

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

rickiep00h posted:

We didn't tank hard enough y'all. Prospects don't just grow on trees.

Once the game starts generating a fair number of players into the draft, a really good scout will generally guarantee you a strong player in the 1st round regardless. Top 10 won't get us the generational talent, but still probably a 3-4 WAR bat or glove who's only a year or two away from the majors.

# ¿ May 8, 2021 04:51

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

There's also the expected OOTP mechanic boost (though your players can tank in hilarious ways), and you can typically pick out the 45/50-esh player who with a boost across the board is going to turn into a major contributor.

For SP you want to focus on dudes who can throw hard with passable control and more than a couple of pitches (4+)

For position players usually high contact + good speed + glove. One of the weird vagueries of OOTP is you can have a player that the game rates as below replacement banging out 4.0 war seasons if they're built right.

# ¿ May 8, 2021 04:56

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Ask pete if there are any tantalizing 3/4/5 SP's for cheap.

You can often find a solid middle of the rotation guy coming off a bad injury who's willing to sign a 3-4y/10m contract.

e: i ask because my take is probably to tank, but start to fill in the back-end of the rotation in order to push next season or the season following.

# ¿ May 9, 2021 02:05

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

One of my favorite things about OOTP compared to Football Manager is that sometimes players can just randomly get really good out of nowhere. I had a player in a recent save who got drafted in the 21st round win MVP. Its rare but it can happen.

Talent in OOTP often feels a little bit too deterministic, but I've appreciated that they've gotten better at both good players fading away and not living up to their potential and bad players suddenly hitting a AA renaissance.

The other thing is that good coaches will often give a boost across the board as your players climb the ladder (For those of you who don't know, OOTP rates most stats on a 0-250 basis. Good "mechanics" coaching will often bump up each major category by around ~10 points. This can turn a 5 dinger guy into a 15 dinger guy, for instance, so its a valuable boost.) and people who are just on the edge of viability "talent-wise" turn out to be really solid MLB players with good coaches.

# ¿ May 9, 2021 02:12

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

loving love Fiona Apple posted:

High Work Ethic and Intelligence are extremely valuable because it makes it much more likely that a top prospect will reach their potential and it makes it more likely that a middling prospect will get a big ratings boost.

If you're drafting a aways draft high work Ethic and Intelligence guys.

I have no idea if there's a certain personality type (intelligent v high work ethic, etc.) that makes a pitcher more likely to pick up another pitch, but it feels like that would be the most valuable if there was a meaningful effect there.

# ¿ May 9, 2021 03:16

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Janitz

# ¿ May 9, 2021 21:53

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

e: I'm sorry I can't hear the fan loyalty dropping because I'm too busy rolling around in my giant vault of money that they're giving me every year

Schnorkles fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 10, 2021

# ¿ May 10, 2021 16:49

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

SP: dumpster
2B: stand pat
SS: stand pat
COF: dumpster

# ¿ May 10, 2021 19:23

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

My favorite part of a 90 win team is using every 3.5+ WAR player to stuff the minors full of prospects the following season

# ¿ May 11, 2021 01:29

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Holdeman imho

# ¿ May 11, 2021 03:25

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

There's actually quite a few! Including some good ones!

Looking it up, I came across this guy:

So, that's cool. Wonder how he got here? Minor league signing...?

I...hm. Drafted in the 3rd round of the KBO draft...cut a few months later. Moves to Fargo to play AA indie ball. Released there in spring training. Signs minor league deal with Rockies. Becomes megastar.

(seriously...those numbers in Coors...wtf)

The thing about journeys like this is it feels weird until you realize there's lots of actual baseball analogues for dudes who were AAAA at best until they suddenly put it all together one season and emerged as major pieces of successful organizations. (also plenty of "for sure" prospects that end up injured a couple of times and bomb out before they even get to AAA)

e: OOTP talent still feels "gamey" and I don't know how they really solve that, but its nice to have random journeyman suddenly put it together and end up real good.

# ¿ May 11, 2021 03:33

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Ty "John" Madden.

I'll show myself out thanks

# ¿ May 12, 2021 21:16

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Mess with the nard and get the bat

# ¿ May 12, 2021 21:52

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Girl Drink Drunk posted:

Wait, Kalafut has a 'stuff' rating of 60? Is he a two-way player? What kind of pitches are in his arsenal? I'm curious if the manager will ever use him in an emergency situation.

Kalafut is a real player, and vaguely two-way I guess.

I tend to end up drafting him in the 4th or 5th round most saves because he has good hitting ratings as an RP. He turned out really good in bewbies universe.

e: as far I can tell his floor is a AAA quality 1b with huge power but no speed and terrible contact.

# ¿ May 13, 2021 05:07

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

IcePhoenix posted:

What's the R stuff on the contract page

Retained salary. You keep paying a dude a certain percentage of his contract in order to make him more attractive as trade bait.

# ¿ May 13, 2021 21:27

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Number 3

Number 1.

Time to Rays it up.

# ¿ May 17, 2021 19:43

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

I wish ootp handled international scouting/free agents a little bit better. Most teams spread decent sized bonuses around to a few different players in the hopes that one of them wins the lottery. There are occasionally absolute super stars that everyone fights over, but it tends to be rarer.

OOTP is basically "identify one player who is a good to great pitcher or transcendent bat and park 5m at his house."

e: someone give me football manager's scouting system in ootp thanks.

Schnorkles fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 19, 2021

# ¿ May 19, 2021 15:46

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

Agreed...the international kids are basically just 3-4 guys who might be big leaguers, and then a bunch of nothing. That said, while we've had some good ones come through (Felix Lopez) we've also had some serious stinkers who basically just absconded with our $5m.

I honestly don't really know how much of the also-rans ever turn into anything but I'm assuming the number is fairly low.

Anyway my general impression of these things in real life is very occasionally there's a Miguel Sano that shows up and blows everyone's mind, but the rest of them are just very, very, very raw teenagers and teams trying and mostly failing to project them.

I think the also-rans turning into something is around the same likelihood as the random draft pick coming good. It all feels a bit deterministic in the game, but I do like that they're trying to project talent doing weird things. The mechanics and coaching changes even seem to be able to create Turner or Bautista like renaissances for AAAA players.

# ¿ May 19, 2021 16:23

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Also Daemon Wrona is Mike Trout with a better glove which is, uh, :yikes:

# ¿ May 19, 2021 16:26

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

algebra testes posted:

I didn't think OOTP would rate Jordan

Jordan: and I took that personally.

Jordan would be so insanely toxic in an mlb clubhouse

# ¿ May 20, 2021 03:24

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

rip pete you died as you lived, dealing with insane owners

# ¿ May 20, 2021 16:27

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Insertnamehere31 posted:

Pete clearly underestimated the speed tool of that elephant

misunderstanding an elephants contact potential and this is what you get

# ¿ May 20, 2021 17:05

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Which of the scouting directors is more tools oriented (if any)? If we're going into a rebuild we probably want a guy who's going to look more for a high ceiling.

# ¿ May 25, 2021 16:23

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

Good question:

Pena is a tools guy.
Mozeliak is neutral.
Nathan is an ability guy.

(for reference, this just means how much the scout values possible future ability versus current ability. IE, "tools" guys tend to value younger players with big arms and big bats and great gloves, "ability" guys tend to value more polished types that have actually shown the numbers versus good competition)

This almost a bit backwards, but it's probably good for how the thread likes to play (i.e. no full tank.)

1.) Scouting Director: Chris Nathan - we need a dude who can evaluate prospects and minor leaguers if we're going to rebuild. The bonus of him being an ability guy is that he'll evaluate players who are more polished and ready for the bigs as stronger prospects. This gives us a return of players who can be important pieces in a year or two rather than HS types that are going to take multiple seasons to mature.

2.) Mini-Rebuild: We may be able to push for another WS right now, but constantly trimming the edges to keep the prospect cupboard full lets us remain in contention for as long as possible. I'd trade the two players who give us the biggest return and restock the starting lineup with replacement level types or depth. We maybe should even consider taking on a little salary this year or next year if it helps secure a good prospect and we can afford it with the trades.

3.) Keep Julio if you can't trade him for a good piece. If we're to the end of his arbitration period, we might as well get the draft pick from him turning down the Qualified Offer.

Schnorkles fucked around with this message at 16:42 on May 25, 2021

# ¿ May 25, 2021 16:36

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I don't think Julio will turn down the QO and really don't want to take that risk so:

Nathan
Rebuild
Decline arb on Julio

If he's making 17mil in arb i don't think he'll accept the QO, but i guess its possible.

e: bewbies is Julio telling you how much he'd want to stay on board? Is it 20m+ a season?

# ¿ May 25, 2021 17:51

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Go all in and get Galindo

# ¿ May 26, 2021 03:00

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

I'm doing a game as Pittsburgh right now (because I like pain I guess) and the league decided to go to 5 years of team control in 2023 and its made viability so, so much harder for a small market team.

# ¿ May 26, 2021 03:12

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

he's....mediocre. 50s across the board. he's young though, and might improve, but he definitely won't be a gold Glover.

That's not terrible. Not going to win any gold gloves, but probably isn't a net loss defensively.

# ¿ May 26, 2021 04:12

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

the old fastball/slider/screwball sidearmer, this one

His durability and injury history look solid, and he's definitely a workhorse. Also he endorses numerous products. That said, two of the most durable pitchers in the game -- Jack Leiter and Ty Madden -- both just went down long-term with injuries, and we don't know what they'll look like when they get back to the field.

I demand that all pitchers who throw forkballs or screwballs are given extensions

# ¿ May 27, 2021 15:59

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Also, just evaluating what Raiff would look like in real life:

A dude with side-arm action who can dot the corner with a 98 mph fastball and throw a slider/splitter/screwball combo is the stuff of nightmares for a hitter.

# ¿ May 27, 2021 16:13

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

habeasdorkus posted:

I wonder how minus movement works with a plus splitter and plus plus slider & screwgie?

Hitters probably just gotta sit fastball and adjust to the changeup.

Movement being the "how well do they keep Homeruns under control" stat for pitchers in ootp makes me think that he's prone to a meatball on his breaking stuff.

# ¿ May 27, 2021 16:19

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

My personal take on "stuff" vs "movement" is stuff is how nasty pitch breaks are, whereas movement is how reliable the breaking stuff is. So, he'll strike out a ton of guys and can place his pitches pretty well, but he's definitely prone to hanging breaking stuff and getting hit hard as a result.

late kershaw like in his ability to hang a slider over the middle of the plate

# ¿ May 27, 2021 16:24

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

bewbies posted:

So we've talked it out, and Raiff is on board with a 7/196 ($28m AAV) contract with a TO in the last year. That'll take him through his age 34 season. Is this a go?

28 aav for a cy young award winner who's durable and just posted a near 6 WAR pitching season is pretty good especially as you're playing with inflation.

i'd take it.

# ¿ May 27, 2021 16:53

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

How's Contreras' glove?

# ¿ May 27, 2021 18:06

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

I'm sold.

Trade for the contact hitter

# ¿ May 27, 2021 18:25

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# ¿ May 9, 2024 17:50

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Huh, can't tell if the most recent patch broke International Free Agents or just makes it so you don't always get whatever dude you offer 5m at.

e: Ah yep "- Fixed situations where international FA were not applying the correct �tiebreak� between teams who offer identical contracts."

Schnorkles fucked around with this message at 21:17 on May 27, 2021

# ¿ May 27, 2021 20:56

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