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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
no idea but I put 20 bucks into bitcoin (technically into Robinhood which I'm pretty sure just pretends they bought bitcoin on my behalf) on a whim a while ago and it's over 300 now. wonder if I should pull it out or just ride it to the Moon

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

theyre gonna have to be patriot act compliant and ask for your social and poo poo. or not. its robinhood theyre not very good at what they do

is that Patriot ACt I thought it was typical KYC/AML bullshit

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Nonsense posted:

can you do this with Robinhood or does it have to be through a legit brokerage? I’ve seen indexes on RH but only the crazed ones.

just get an account at fidelity or something, I have one and they do 0 commission trades. buy SPYX for a safe bet

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Cold on a Cob posted:

i've been dca buying my way back into etfs because i liquidated like 2/3 of my portfolio in october to buy property and that didn't happen (lol :smithicide:)

oof that sux. what are you buying

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Cold on a Cob posted:

also taco bell b/c they sent me coupons and i can get a full day's worth of calories for $8 cad

as good a reason as any to buy stock

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Gazpacho posted:

general guidance is to invest only with money that you are confident you won't need to spend during the next four years, so that you can adjust to any losses that might occur

and normally i would add, don't touch anything with a reputation as an exotic or "high-yielding" investment if you're over 30 and under $2 million

I’m saving money every week to give my nephew when he turns 18 (~12 years). is it stupid to keep in a high yield savings account as opposed to parking it in some index or mutual fund

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Smythe posted:

what kinda yield we talkin bout here

it was 2.25 when I opened it but I think it’s down to like .5 lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Smythe posted:

hmm.. number seems not very high. check out voo or other indexes idk do ur thing op. maybe some doge coin......................

what’s the diff between voo and like SPY or SPYX (I like to not invest in fossil fuels because I’m a stupid bitch)

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

yes, incredibly stupid

well gently caress you how about that

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

no, gently caress you. also just putting it in a high yield checking account wouldnt even keep pace with increasing tuition rates, your money would lose purchasing power in terms of how much college it buys

he’s not allowed to spend it on college

cumshitter posted:

but your impact on this as an average, individual investor is so minisicule that its like worrying about whether blowing up an atomic bomb will change the earth's orbit

yeah I said I was a dumb bitch. I guess I should put it into an index fund then?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

working with an accountant and figuring out what your expected tax bill will be in the year of liquidation would be smart. nobody would fault indigi for retaining some of the cash to cover his tax bill.

oh yeah. poo poo. I guess I’ll start putting some money aside for that too

so I should buy bonds as well as an index fund?

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

youd have far more money if you had been 100% S&P 500 for 15+ years. but that doesn't mean much if you cant sleep at night

oh yeah big volatility swings won’t bother me much at all yet considering the decade-plus time frame but I’ll definitely want to start rebalancing things in 5-6 years. I mean it’d suck if the account went -99% or something but the good news is he doesn’t know about it so I can just pretend like nothing ever happened and give him a hundred bucks when he turns 18.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

bumping this because im curious what you ended up doing. give me your money

I put it all in SPYX

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Alobar posted:

my rule is "don't gamble with rent or food money"

if you have to borrow money to invest that’s exactly what you’re doing

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

punished milkman posted:

what the hell is safemoon

idk but the name was clearly chosen to make it seem like a sure thing investment

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Yossarian-22 posted:

i'm in on bonfire, 100x, safemoon, and so many shitcoins that have never gone anywhere that i've lost track. but i'm up $4000-$5000 or so having not invested much so i'm just ride or die atm. there is a bernie coin i bought that dipped hard and it's probably good to get in on it right now if you have any inkling that it could go anywhere

how much of a loving headache would all this poo poo be come tax time? like if I'm not opposed to the idea of speculating on nonsense I definitely am opposed to doing more paperwork

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Yossarian-22 posted:

it would be one, which is why i just keep my winnings in stablecoins and commit myself to not selling anything until/unless it's so much mega profits that i can hire a legendary tax accountant to figure all this poo poo out for me

as of the past two years (FY2019) you’re supposed to report whenever you buy any crypto. might be a pita when you report gains if there’s no record of declared purchases? idk how it works really though lol I bought like $10 in Bitcoin and it’s up to 250 now so I’ll find out too

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
lol imagine being rich and refusing to use any of your money on anything

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
bringing down the system by hoarding a resource entirely dependent on the continued stability of the current system

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cool av posted:

much like with BTC, the hyper profitable part of the ponzi scheme w/ doge has thoroughly passed

people have been saying this about BTC every 6 months for half a decade now, I’ll believe it when I see it

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
you’re still talking about a 1000% ROI lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
looking at price history if you bought 5 years ago you’d have closer to a 10000% ROI

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Cold on a Cob posted:

drat futures are up. I shoulda did my weekly etf buy earlier this week

details please

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
ooh what’s xgro, sounds sci fi

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
ETH is on a tear today too

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
tell me which coin I should buy right now that will definitely turn into a fortune

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

i say swears online posted:

i just found out my friend is doing the junkcoin basket thing now. he's like 20k in just hoping for something to go cumrocket

I legit kind of hate people who have 20k to throw into a slot machine. I know it’s petty but gently caress my family and friends are struggling lol

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
post a step by step guide on how the gently caress to buy safemoon. does coinbase do anything? they’re advertising all over Duolingo rn

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
what the gently caress both these processes suck poo poo omg this sucks

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I kind of don't want a coinbase account cause all their duolingo ads are 17 seconds and that's so loving long when you're trying to cram some vocab in before work

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Bushiz posted:

Can't wait for this whole thing to do Mt. Gox Redux

I don't think this is possible anymore just because of the (ironic) centralization of the crypto world at the time

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Nonsense posted:

I want a full coin, not chunks of one.

why

is there some sort of full-coin value multiplier

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
@cumshitter your advice has cost my nephew over one hundred and fifty dollars so far. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

cumshitter posted:

value can not be created

I think Adam Smith would disagree. but I shall endeavor to buy more soon.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I believe in Elon Musk's commitment to socialism.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Yossarian-22 posted:

^quality pair of posts

cumshitter if i cash in winnings now will i be paying less since holdings over 1 year=capital gains? definitely need to know what's what with taxes now

I think you need to hold a security/derivative for one year for it to qualify for capital gains, I don’t know if pancake swapping between a bunch would count as long term

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I was going to ask yossarian to answer their DMs but with binance abotu to be investigated it may be moot

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