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Fucks sake, this is the endgame of Arsenal having American ownership. If these teams force this through and the national leagues ban them it's going to cause complete mayhem. It even throws the rest of this season into doubt... I have to say one thing I am finding amusing is that Spurs are in this. You last won a league title in 1961 what the gently caress are you doing you clowns
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 01:04 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 17:27 |
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I guess one good side of this whole thing is that it's a kick up the arse to uefa/fifa and stupid ideas like the Champs league rework and 48 team world cups in loving Qatar. They all need to gently caress off. If Arsenal become a franchise that kills football for me though and that's sad
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 01:16 |
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I hope Legacy Fans™ get a cool badge to wear to show their seniority. Maybe some exclusive DLC? I hope this all goes tits up but at the same time destroys UEFA and FIFA in some way. I'm not sure how it would work out ultimately but I'd love for Arsenal to go bust if it forced out the shithead americans. I'm sure stadium maintenance could cover itself with match day revenue at least, we just wouldn't be able to spunk £350,000 a week on world class players intentionally frozen out of the first team for political reasons.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 11:25 |
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Vavy posted:Curious as to how the consulting firms these buffoons paid $$$$ told them how this would play out optically, with close to unanimous disapproval thus far. I live amongst the international PL fan demographic they are so hungry to court, and conversations at work this morning further show nobody likes this.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 11:43 |
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Alexeythegreat posted:Rumor here has it that the ESL offered a spot to Zenit and it was ignored.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 12:52 |
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FullLeatherJacket posted:glazers bad but also sky bad and lol forever at them openly propagandizing against someone else doing the thing that they did and killing their business model
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 13:37 |
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FullLeatherJacket posted:This is one of my dumb hobby-horses that no-one likes or cares about (like all of my posting), but the old European Cup format was bad then and would be worse now despite old men's nostalgia. Brian Clough won two of them essentially by battering teams from countries that don't exist any more and then beating Malmo (which I think still exists, but I'm not going there to check) in the final.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 15:30 |
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This is all part of PSGs masterplan. They will get their Champions League win (by default, who cares, it makes them former winners) and then go join the new superleague. Intrigue within intrigue.
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 18:05 |
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Slaapaav posted:i hope they get kicked out of domestic leagues soon
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# ¿ Apr 19, 2021 18:21 |
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In retrospect football that mattered ended in 2003 when Abramovich bought Chelsea. That scumbag amount of money should never have been in football.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 09:47 |
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peanut- posted:Disagree. A rich guy splashing money is football ownership tradition. The American finance ghouls and others who just want to maximise the profit machine are who is driving this.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 10:57 |
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pointsofdata posted:what's the ESL playoff final going to be called? Super Ball?
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 11:15 |
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CyberPingu posted:Fans can do gently caress all. The governing bodies need to stop this.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 11:24 |
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That "enjoy all the dead rubbers" jibe from Squires made me think of how they'll have to have the playoffs going down to like 14th place in some kind of convoluted tortured system to make the bottom half of the table relevant. Of course this will make the whole league a dead rubber as finishing in a higher spot will become relatively meaningless. Or maybe they are banking on Spurs vs Athletico battling for 13th place as being a major draw. I'm guessing all the refs will be nobbled to make sure Real, Man U and Juve finish in the top 3.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 12:39 |
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Absolute mindgames. Roman Abramovich doesn't need this as he already has 10 billion dollars so he joined this with the very intention of quitting immediately to gently caress off the other clubs so he can buy his way to 10 consecutive PL titles while they all get expelled.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:07 |
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Which other English team is owned by Americans, Spaniards or Italians? Watford? Get them on the phone stat
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 19:14 |
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Kroenke out when
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:19 |
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I'm an ESL Legacy Fan and I'm proud of it
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:24 |
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bawfuls posted:sounds like an impressively dumb time to sell
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 20:42 |
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What's going to happen to all of Real Madrids ESL trophies? Can they go back to CLs?
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:01 |
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Liverpool players doing the football squad version of creating a union
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:23 |
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European Super Dead League. They never played.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:24 |
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Mr Snips posted:https://twitter.com/CharIesEgan/status/1384582677190397953
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:37 |
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I'm staying inside this boat hurtling towards the edge of a giant waterfall and you can't stop me
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 21:49 |
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In hindsight I don't think anything is going to top Perez' insane interview and claim that football is dead and would be over by 2024 or whenever
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 22:25 |
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Down to the embers, Real and Barca going to burn out together
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2021 23:26 |
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Why not just have a Super Small League instead? Barca vs Real Madrid every other Wednesday is the high quality football the kids are craving.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 01:05 |
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Vegetable posted:Halve the size of all domestic leagues, play only until December. Everyone is sorted into a different European league based on league position. Then it’s European league season until May. That’s my big-money idea. Edit: you're fired
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 07:17 |
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Quantum Shart posted:https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1384763846557147142 "Sorry for throwing the manager and team under the bus while I hid in a boardroom. Well, bye"
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 09:11 |
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Each team who was part of this should be automatically demoted 4 league places at the end of the season. Not qualifying for the Champions League would be a legitimate punishment but of course this will be unpopular with the decision makers because UEFA are money hungry greedy fucks themselves and that would damage the tournaments prestige.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 10:34 |
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The effort from the breakway clubs was incredibly poor. There was literally a tweet from each of the teams and a vague closed league idea and that was it. Apart from that complete car crash of an interview with Perez there was not a peep from any official channel. Like Spurs fire Mourinho and then send out their 29 year old interim coach to essentially be the spokesperson for this who is of course at best lukewarm. No website explaining the structure, no press releases from the clubs saying why it would be a good idea, nothing about supporting the teams left behind, no explanations, start date or anything tangible at all. Every soundbite was left to Perez and of course they were all utterly self destructive and stupid. This idea clearly needed to come out fully formed with an opening fixture list and dates (even if partial), sponsors, paid for press junkets and full throated support from the clubs. Not a few tweets, confused bemused responses from the managers and players involved and silence apart from the insane ramblings of Perez. I hope the avarice and incompetence combined has poisoned this idea so thoroughly that it's put on the back burner for a very long time. Of course the avarice and incompetence displayed continuously by FIFA and UEFA will continue on sadly but it's the least worst of the two options.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 12:33 |
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Well unless it turns out that UEFA did actually bribe all the English teams to quit, nice easy win there to then act like it was all for the fans.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 18:08 |
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Gigi Galli posted:Is there anything beyond an angry Spanish article about this? Not that I don’t believe it, but you know.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 18:48 |
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Got to say, this is a great listen. And of course Bercow is right as well.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2021 22:06 |
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Elliptical Dick posted:Looks like Perez is doubling down. Apparently he's maintaining that clubs can't just withdraw.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 11:21 |
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Collateral posted:Aren't most of the owners of these big 6 clubs also Jewish?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 14:02 |
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I think the main point is that both Rangers and Celtic would struggle considerably at first, considering the sides are roughly as strong as a midtable Championship team (at best). However with the support they have and the history they have bringing in sponsorship and commercial revenue and attracting players would be considerably easier for them over the short-to-medium term compared to your average Championship team and therefor with good leadership they would both have the potential to end up as strong top division teams. There's no getting round that there is a lot of risk on both sides though and no clean way of making sure it works - just as easily as Celtic could end challenging for a league title they could also end up struggling in League 1. It's not worth doing unless Rangers and Celtic want to take the huge risk of being fed into the bottom of the league, which seems like a great way to embarrass the teams and potentially ruin them.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 15:17 |
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If they wanted to increase the Premiership to 22 teams and literally just stick Rangers and Celtic into the PL that way I reckon they would have to do away with the League Cup altogether to make room for the additional fixtures. Or make the the European tournaments have a less insane amount of games. Or make International games midweek fixtures or something.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 17:19 |
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What a curious game, the only winning move is not to play.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2021 18:41 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 17:27 |
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It's hilarious that Real, Barca and Juve are still officially in this thing. Kinda awkward too.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2021 18:37 |