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Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Dark mode whips rear end thank you I am very happy.

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Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

nine-gear crow posted:

Someone actually proposed a literal Goon Senate to solve "the Problem of Lowtax" and was 100% not joking serious about it.




Goons.

sebmojo posted:

Please find that post I wish to lol at it anew

Found it, I think. Although it's from August 2019, so maybe not?

Byolante posted:

The logical starting point would be a representative democracy to produce the mods, then the mods would create what is essentially a cabinet for the admins. Regardless of where you fall currently there is a a serious concentration of the admin and mod team being drawn from a single subforum which leads to blind spots in the ability to keep track of whats actually happening on the forum.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Workshopping my manifesto for my run at the seat for BYOB 3rd District. Currently I have 25% more posting, avs that smell of pizza and making Jeffrey do a duet with a bear in a tutu

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


Rarity posted:

Workshopping my manifesto for my run at the seat for BYOB 3rd District. Currently I have 25% more posting, avs that smell of pizza and making Jeffrey do a duet with a bear in a tutu

"What are your views on subsidized housing and what measures will your administration put forth to combat the inequality gap?"

"Have you noticed how like, pink is a totally made up color. But we can see it, with like, nature's eyes."

*bong riiiiiiiip*

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Ratjaculation posted:

Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

What kind of moron would make this person a mod?!

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

Ratjaculation posted:

Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

Absolutely I 100% agree that this poster should be a mod and honestly, I will lead a bloody forums coup against this oppressive regime until it happens

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Ratjaculation posted:

Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

I think the Awful App people are their own team, and I believe not even mods or admins on the forums themselves? I don't know how they would feel about such a proposal.

Also, missed that link being posted, it's been ages since somebody did that in a thread I was reading.

kliras
Mar 27, 2021
all mods are now vtubers, elections have consequences

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Torrannor posted:

I think the Awful App people are their own team, and I believe not even mods or admins on the forums themselves? I don't know how they would feel about such a proposal.

Keep them on, pay them or keep the app dev open, they're clearly great at what they do. Personally I do 99% of my SA browsing on the app, I imagine I'm not alone, so monetising the existing forum features in it would be good and you could use that to help the devs*

*obviously usage stats are a guess, and I know nothing about coding, monetising, apps or the internet. I just want an excuse to never use a browser.

Ratjaculation fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Apr 26, 2021

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



Ratjaculation posted:

Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

What the gently caress

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

For the last time, no

Ambaire
Sep 4, 2009

by Shine
Oven Wrangler

Ratjaculation posted:

Make Awful app official and add store features to it using Google Pay/Apple Pay

Wait is this a suggestions thread?

Also, make this goon a mod

gently caress no. I don't want that responsibility.

e. *takes a second to actually think about the posts above* Is that a 'special' user id that shows the profile of whoever clicks that?

Ambaire fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 26, 2021

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ratjaculation posted:

Keep them on, pay them or keep the app dev open, they're clearly great at what they do. Personally I do 99% of my SA browsing on the app, I imagine I'm not alone, so monetising the existing forum features in it would be good and you could use that to help the devs*

*obviously usage stats are a guess, and I know nothing about coding, monetising, apps or the internet. I just want an excuse to never use a browser.

There are 2 different SA phone apps, and both are open-source projects with a bunch of contributors. Neither of them ask for donations, probably because splitting it between the people working on them is more trouble than it's worth.


Also adding the ability to buy forums stuff through the apple/google store means giving 30% of everything to apple/google, gently caress that noise.


Ambaire posted:

e. *takes a second to actually think about the posts above* Is that a 'special' user id that shows the profile of whoever clicks that?
hint: click your own profile button below one of your posts and note the id number

Fuschia tude
Dec 26, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Ambaire posted:

gently caress no. I don't want that responsibility.

e. *takes a second to actually think about the posts above* Is that a 'special' user id that shows the profile of whoever clicks that?

Looks like typing "userId=" rather than "userid=" always does that :allears:

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"At the end of the day
We are all human beings
My father once told me that
The world has no borders"

low key sex master posted:

Absolutely I 100% agree that this poster should be a mod and honestly, I will lead a bloody forums coup against this oppressive regime until it happens

Only if they are made the mod of the new forum: "The Great Horny Space"

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Ambaire posted:

e. *takes a second to actually think about the posts above* Is that a 'special' user id that shows the profile of whoever clicks that?
It goes to a witch in a properly formatted URL.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Klyith posted:


Also adding the ability to buy forums stuff through the apple/google store means giving 30% of everything to apple/google, gently caress that noise.


I thought Google Pay was just your card but through your phone for contactless? Are Google taking 30% every time I buy lube from the supermarket?

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

adhuin posted:

Only if they are made the mod of the new forum: "The Great Horny Space"

:hmmyes:

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



Dreylad posted:

it's incredible how "hosting costs" were magically cut by 90% or something from when Lowtax ran things.

It was the cost of hosting twenty years of pill and booze abuse.

spankmeister posted:

A car loan for a GT-R ain't cheap.

Not even a loan, a loving lease.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

adhuin posted:

Only if they are made the mod of the new forum: "The Great Horny Space"

:chast2b:

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Ratjaculation posted:

I thought Google Pay was just your card but through your phone for contactless? Are Google taking 30% every time I buy lube from the supermarket?

that's google pay, not the app store

if you put an app in the app store that sells in-app stuff*, google & apple want their cut


*(this is a flexible definition that really comes down to "whoever we can bully money out of")

Nooner
Mar 26, 2011

AN A+ OPSTER (:
Jeff I think there was a mistake during that weekend maintenance, I am still not a mod, some lunkhead forgot to make me a mod of GBS or maybe even The Pellet Palace. Probably asleep at the keyboard when they should have been working! It is okay though, you can hae someone fix it nowm, I am ready to be a mod please Jeff

Julias
Jun 24, 2012

Strum in a harmonizing quartet
I want to cause a revolution

What can I do? My savage
nature is beyond wild

sebmojo posted:

Please find that post I wish to lol at it anew

Raenir Salazar posted:

In QCS and elsewhere I've seen a number of threads and posts talking about accountability.

I think this is a bit of a funny concept to talk about, what is accountability?

How does one balance the needs of mods the ability to do their jobs, and being somewhat free to have some measure of privacy to confer amongst themselves, with the needs of the community to be reasonably informed about the decision making process of those decisions?

I don't personally have much stake in the game, this is mainly just my own idea that just popped into mind, I don't in particular think this suggestion is necessary but...

Maybe it could be fun or funny? In addition to maybe assuaging some concerns of some posters?

Here is my idea, there's a complicated version, and a simple version.

The simple version is having some small but not trivially so number of powers, elected in staggered terms. Lets say 12 posters. They get a subforum that's public, and a super secret subforum that's not public, the forums equivalent of a SCIF for anything sensitive that needs to be discussed.

This senate makes up its own rules as to what its order of the day and processes are, the important thing is the following:

-They but not the forums at large, either get access and can see the mod forum, or are to be given a "State of the Forums" by an appropriate Admin about things being discussed, and/or some sort of subpoena power where if a majority agrees that they wanna question Moderator/Admin XYZ, then Mod/Admin XYZ have to do a AMA in either the Senate forum or its SCIF (if sensitive content). And have to abide by and comply with orders to provide receipts relevant to the business of the day.


*The More Complicated version.

-Two Houses. 1 Senate, 1 House; the Senate is appointed or elected by Mods of respective subforums on staggered terms. DIY, Games, D&D, etc all get to send 2 Senators. The House is elected forum wide. Each Subforum maybe gets to determine how they pick Senators. This is to provide specific forum-contextual representation in addition to forums wide representation of the user base as a whole. Something like there's 2x, say 69 Represenatives more than the number of Senators, and enough senators for 2 per subforum (sub-subforums don't get representation, they are like territories).


Other than that everything is the same as above.


-Who would want to be a Rep/or Senator? Why would you do this?

Perhaps they could have perks. Such as a special gangtag or avatar to reflect their heightened status.

Other perks could be something like 1 get out of cat jail free card a month, free pm's, archives, and so on.



-Pros

The regular forum usership would have representation that have a higher degree of power to ask questions of the moderation team, and be able to see things "behind the scenes" to some degree.

Imagine just how fun it will be, for us, the common forums user, to see our duly elected forums reps devolve into the UK House of commons in slapfighting once they have the chance to, a new form of forums entertainment.

In addition that depending on how it is structured, could be a fun forums game underneath it.


-Cons

Probably a lot of work to set up. Coding and organizationally.

Probably a lot more forums acrimony. I.e imagine the reps from two different subforums at each others throats. This could be considered a pro, but also probably a con if we do expect this to be somehow constructive.

Could easily perhaps go from "being accountable" to "witchhunt but now with official powers" without a strong and motivated loyalist faction to play defence.


Another forum I've been to, Stardestroyer.net did something like this, and the forum's owner had to nuke it because of how dysfunctional it ended up being. So precedent would tilt this towards being possibly a bad idea, but on the other hand, are we not the greatest forums in the world that's ever been or ever will be? We could probably make it work.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I propose instead we have a forum Secret Service of undisclosed membership who have secret powers they can use to interfere with mods outside their home forum

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Rarity posted:

I propose instead we have a forum ██████████████████████████ who have █████████████████████████

why does this post look like this?

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001

Sham bam bamina! posted:

It goes to a witch in a properly formatted URL.
Well let's just make them a mod then I guess.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Rarity posted:

I propose instead we have a forum Secret Service of undisclosed membership who have secret powers they can use to interfere with mods outside their home forum

It's called discords

DONKEY SALAMI
Jun 28, 2008

donkey? donkey?

Nooner posted:

Jeff I think there was a mistake during that weekend maintenance, I am still not a mod, some lunkhead forgot to make me a mod of GBS or maybe even The Pellet Palace. Probably asleep at the keyboard when they should have been working! It is okay though, you can hae someone fix it nowm, I am ready to be a mod please Jeff

Looks like the Toxic Waste Dump could use a mod. Could turn it into a mod training grounds. Or better a mod battle grounds for prospective new mods.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

donkey salami posted:

Looks like the Toxic Waste Dump could use a mod. Could turn it into a mod training grounds. Or better a mod battle grounds for prospective new mods.

Mod Hunger Games were two goons from each forum are :airquote: volunteered :airquote:

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Since all Posters have been deputized as Mods, I'm bringing back DPPH and NMP3H effective right god damned now.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

Chief McHeath posted:

Since all Posters have been deputized as Mods, I'm bringing back DPPH and NMP3H effective right god damned now.

why do you want to think about what other goons are jerking it to?

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Julias posted:

The Fyaderalist Papers Volume 41

Yisss

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Who What Now posted:

What kind of moron would make this person a mod?!

a fuckig idion

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


I like how my av blends in with the background and the jaggies are even less visible!

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

This post is incredible simply because the poster lays out a multi paragraph definition of how this would work and casually tacks onto the end "they tried this with another forum I was on and they had to nuke it but it might work here!"

This is primo goonery

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Rounding up votes to get cloture on a motion of censure for that post

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



sebmojo posted:

Rounding up votes to get cloture on a motion of censure for that post

Let he who has never filibustered in GBS cast the first stone

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

sebmojo posted:

Rounding up votes to get cloture on a motion of censure for that post

Mr. low key sex master

Mr. low key sex master votes "aye"

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Pham Nuwen posted:

Let he who has never filibustered in GBS cast the first stone

A need for non-stop posting, finally I have achieved my calling

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