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The Puppy Bowl posted:I'm very glad it was Oweh instead of Rousseau. Based on the vague language it sounds like they were actually higher on Rousseau than Oweh, in which case thank you Buffalo. It'll be very interesting to see who ends up the best player of Rousseau, Oweh, and Tryon given they went 123. So far, it’s been working fairly well though, but they won’t win them all. I forget where I saw it, but they additionally supposedly didn’t consider CB an area of concern at all.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:The Bills, for their part, seem to value athleticism and other intangibles highly. It’s become a distinct pattern in their drafting since Beane took over as GM. They’ve drafted very few “finished product”-type players. Odd that they'd consider Rousseau athletic he doesn't seem like it. Spencer Brown though holy poo poo.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:The Bills, for their part, seem to value athleticism and other intangibles highly. It’s become a distinct pattern in their drafting since Beane took over as GM. They’ve drafted very few “finished product”-type players. It's the kinda bet that will probably stop paying off eventually.
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Lance of Llanwyln posted:The Bills, for their part, seem to value athleticism and other intangibles highly. It’s become a distinct pattern in their drafting since Beane took over as GM. They’ve drafted very few “finished product”-type players. He’s not very athletic though? Edit well he’s not unathletic. I guess I’d put him in the middle of the pack Amy Pole Her fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 18:34
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Well coached teams can take the athletic player, badly coached teams have to take the football player.
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kiimo posted:The Ravens draft well. We draft ok but are a bit overrated and have never developed a drafted WR
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I liked Rousseau before the Bills drafted him. Feel like his production gets hand-waved away under flimsy pretenses because his broad jump sucks. It's not hard to tell a story where he's unable to get past NFL linemen, but you're not going to find a Chase Young level prospect at pick 30. You can do worse than picking a guy with sone elite traits and production that still that has obvious (but coachable) room to grow.
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Kawalimus posted:We draft ok but are a bit overrated and have never developed a drafted WR Ravens hired a couple of new WR coaches that I'm pretty excited about. But by all accounts Bateman is very polished already
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Kawalimus posted:We draft ok but are a bit overrated and have never developed a drafted WR Nah, except WRs they indeed are one of few top teams in drafting and developing players
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We were unreal from 96-08 but starting with the Oher pick we came a bit back to earth and kind of coast on that reputation today.
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Kawalimus posted:We were unreal from 96-08 but starting with the Oher pick we came a bit back to earth and kind of coast on that reputation today. wow, a decade of winning records and playoffs despite the front office coasting on reputation and average QB play. John Harbaugh must be a hell of a coach. Oh wait, you've fired him a hundred times in this forum.
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I think you're under weighting that 2018 draft. Obviously the story on those careers aren't fully told yet but a starting RT, starting TE, and MVP QB at 32 is nothing to sneeze at. 2011 was also a very good year.
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Honestly having one or two really exceptional draft classes in a decade is more than enough to make you a good franchise if your coaching is competent.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I think you're under weighting that 2018 draft. Obviously the story on those careers aren't fully told yet but a starting RT, starting TE, and MVP QB at 32 is nothing to sneeze at. Oh I'm not saying we haven't had really good picks or years I'm saying that we don't really justify the current reputation of one of the very best. Obviously Lamar Jackson was amazing. But in that same draft Hayden Hurst was a bit of a whiff for a first round pick. Also Maxx Williams wasn't good. But then there's guys like Humphrey. So we're fine--just not what we used to be where it was like "oh, just a quality starter nothing special". I'm not saying we're bad just we're a little more middling than we were in those prime years.
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AndrewP posted:wow, a decade of winning records and playoffs despite the front office coasting on reputation and average QB play. John Harbaugh must be a hell of a coach. Oh wait, you've fired him a hundred times in this forum. lol
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I think you're under weighting that 2018 draft. Obviously the story on those careers aren't fully told yet but a starting RT, starting TE, and MVP QB at 32 is nothing to sneeze at. Even some of the drafts that look bad like 2013, with big misses on Elam and Arthur Brown, you still managed to find dudes like Brandon Williams, Ricky Wagner, Ryan Jensen, Kyle Juszczyk etc. This is in contrast to other teams drafts where literally every dude is out of the league in like 4 years. The drafting and development is pretty noticeably above league average. Like, I'd say that 2010 is probably the worst draft out of the Harbaugh era and that still had Pitta and Art Jones. Even Ed Dickson somehow went on to have a (admittedly pretty mediocre) 9 year craeer.
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Kawalimus is right.
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Amy Pole Her posted:He’s not very athletic though?
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If they're that confident I wonder why not go after the PSU DE instead. That guy with some coaching would be unstoppable.
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Amy Pole Her posted:If they're that confident I wonder why not go after the PSU DE instead. That guy with some coaching would be unstoppable. 
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Just from reading the last 2 pages I would like to rate the Ravens Draft a B-
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I give the ravens draft an F. Should've traded their picks for Case Keenum and moved Lamar to receiver.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Should've traded their picks for Case Keenum and moved Lamar to RB/Punt Returner.
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I legit want to see lamaar return a coiple.kicks and punts.
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Kawalimus posted:We draft ok but are a bit overrated and have never developed a drafted WR I think I see the real problem.
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wrs and dbs develop on their own and can't be influenced except by blunt force trauma
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Cavauro posted:wrs and dbs develop on their own and can't be influenced except by blunt force trauma You could argue Vontaze Burfict is the reason Antonio Brown got a ring.
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