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AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal

SlimGoodbody posted:

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I read this thread. This movie was excruciatingly boring and predictable. It wasn't even that nice to look at!

People like different things. Wowzer.

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Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

Necrothatcher posted:

pfft, just cast someone that looks like him

what's the point of paying scum like him and helping him raise his media profile?

I don't think a 5 second cameo where he's getting dunked on is significantly helping or hurting him in any way. I agree that Spicer shouldn't have been cast but Snyder is a Hollywood lib, so he's going to do tone-deaf things like this.

KVeezy3
Aug 18, 2005

Airport Music for Black Folk

Necrothatcher posted:

pfft, just cast someone that looks like him

what's the point of paying scum like him and helping him raise his media profile?

Because it depicts the pieces on the board where they actually lay.

I could care less whether Spicer got paid for his cameo; the fact that his actual identity is parlayed in this film into a broader indictment of U.S. policy is what's actually important. Like if you watch this film, and agree with what he's saying, than what more is there to say? This isn't too far removed from the various Batman V Superman news media cameos ostensibly just playing to their regular shtick.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Yeah Andrew Sullivan is a literal eugenics guy and he was in Batman v Superman. Snyder casts real right-wing pundits for whatever reason - probably "authenticity".

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Lol Snyder definitely made the right call to not give Chris D'Elia a redemption on moment

pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



LesterGroans posted:

Lol Snyder definitely made the right call to not give Chris D'Elia a redemption on moment

If they had kept D'elia that scene would have been so smug and annoying, but Tig Notaro makes it almost self-effacing. She is so charming in this movie, easily her best acting performance yet.

garycoleisgod
Sep 27, 2004
Boo
This ruled. It is the best Aliens re-make of all time too.

Some might find the depth of field stuff Snyder is doing now annoying (it's also in the Joker scene in the SnyderCut), but I like it.

It's not exactly a shock, but I loved that basically everybody got hosed. Going to Vegas to make a big score is a bad idea even without the zombies. Of course the only person who made it out alive was the one who went in for non-selfish reasons. But it was a bit of a kick in the guts that Van got infected. Real Night of the Living Dead stuff there.

It is a very goofy movie, what with the hilarious presidential quotes, the robit zombies, aliens, time loop (those corpses did have their clothes/jewellery and Burke, uh I mean Martin, did say he had no idea about previous teams. Maybe he was lying, but it doesn't come up again so maybe he wasn't and they are the only team, doomed to repeat their failures over and over...) zombie king. zombie horse, zombaby but it was also very sincere and everybody plays it straight. There's no winking at the camera. I love it.

It meant that the end of the film actually hit me a bit hard, even though it is a very goofy movie. Snyder takes the most ridiculous things seriously and his movies are better for it.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

Lol at calling the action "pedestrian".

Not everything needs to be a big drat twist, a well executed story is preferable to having a twist for the twists sake, and I think this movie delivered on that.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

pospysyl posted:

If they had kept D'elia that scene would have been so smug and annoying, but Tig Notaro makes it almost self-effacing. She is so charming in this movie, easily her best acting performance yet.

I loved your lb review

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Lol Sean Spicer

Snuff Melange
May 21, 2021

______________

...some men,
you just can't reach.
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Excited to watch this tonight, regardless of quality :aaa:

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Did anyone who saw this theatrically see any dead pixels?

https://twitter.com/Sgtzima/status/1395891264818663431?s=20

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Lol, I got up and gave one a little tap at one point to see if it'd shift, wonder how that got through.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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No.

Also here’s my biggest issue and you can’t get me to like it but I really hated the lack of closure with the mom. It bothered me and made the ending sour for me.

Loved the rest of the film though.

McCloud
Oct 27, 2005

CelticPredator posted:

No.

Also here’s my biggest issue and you can’t get me to like it but I really hated the lack of closure with the mom. It bothered me and made the ending sour for me.

Loved the rest of the film though.

there was closure

She died in the crash. The dumbass daughter got everyone killed for nothing. Good job, idiot.

Also something I just realized, when dieter talks about death and rebirth, that presages his death and Vans rebirth as an alpha zombie

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
I think not providing explicit closure to Geeta was a definitely a choice that I understand mechanically but ultimately I think was not the best choice. They extend the movies plot specifically to rescue her and while I get they wanted the focus of that to be more on regards to Scott and Kates relationship it would have served the point better to at least have a brief moment with whatever was left of Geetas body. Even just a moment where Kate sees her and laments before she sees Scott.

Zane
Nov 14, 2007
didn't hate it. but wasn't a huge fan. there's a lot of movie here for people to pick and choose from. but: i found the action too broken up by the complicated sub-plotting, by the pseudo-anthropology of the zombie society (cool but too much of it), and by the often literal fixation on the alpha zombie's invincible bullet mask. the suspense of classical horror is almost entirely dispensed with. there's no terrible and uncertain danger lurking in the shadows. the casino is pretty quickly lit up! and the movie lets us know exactly when the zombies are coming!

the father/daughter sub-plot is kind of a drag. it's an important keystone for the movie's overall thematic structure. but it stretches credulity in a number of ways. and it turns out that bautista has pretty limited emotional range. i can only criticize this so much however because i think snyder was compelled to do this as a way of engaging with the horrible tragedy of his own daughter. which is also a drag but in a different way.

anyway: zombie vegas is still a fruitful setting as broad allegorical backdrop for the apocalypse. it could definitely be mined some more and i don't hate the idea of a franchise. but my ideal zombie genre movie is more dramatically centered around intrinsic human shortcomings; around the simultaneous uncertainty of the zombies outside and the humans inside. maybe fall of vegas will have tighter plotting.

Zane fucked around with this message at 03:57 on May 22, 2021

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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AccountSupervisor posted:

I think not providing explicit closure to Geeta was a definitely a choice that I understand mechanically but ultimately I think was not the best choice. They extend the movies plot specifically to rescue her and while I get they wanted the focus of that to be more on regards to Scott and Kates relationship it would have served the point better to at least have a brief moment with whatever was left of Geetas body. Even just a moment where Kate sees her and laments before she sees Scott.

Yeah. I don’t need much but I need something. Leaving it be or not spelled out is just iffy. I can infer but like...it’s not a deep thing and I shouldn’t have to infer it lmao

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

why is this movie so long. why is it so boring. why does it feel like everyone is stuck in the BLURRY ZONE

Violator
May 15, 2003


I loved how everyone on the team was competent. Even the "losers" ended up heroic and were able to hold their own until they were overwhelmed and couldn't.

Very much reminds me of early Carpenter and I caught a lot of references to his work, and the obvious homages to Cameron, etc. If you're a fan of Assault of Precinct 13 you'll like this.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I missed the robots when was it and were they cool?

Also what the gently caress there were four movies worth of weird in the background and none of it got developed.

Blue alien glow baby
Robots?
THEIR OWN BODIES
Blue mist for brains

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

moths posted:

I missed the robots when was it and were they cool?

Also what the gently caress there were four movies worth of weird in the background and none of it got developed.

Blue alien glow baby
Robots?
THEIR OWN BODIES
Blue mist for brains


When the Alphas are attacking them in the hallways by the vault there seems like one zombie has glowing blue eyes? But the biggest robot zombie thing is when Guzman is killing zombies on the casino floor, he shoots one in the face and it falls and you can see a metal skeleton or something and glowing eyes and sparks I think. It's legit intriguing.

LesterGroans fucked around with this message at 05:04 on May 22, 2021

DeNomolos
Jan 10, 2013

mild mannered meatspin historian

LesterGroans posted:

When the Alphas are attacking then in the hallways by the vault there seems like one zombie has glowing blue eyes? But the biggest robot zombie thing is when Guzman is killing zombies on the casino floor, he shoots one in the face and it falls and you can see a metal skeleton or something and sparks I think. It's legit intriguing.

This is exactly what you should liter a sci-fi movie with, just tons of weird things that pop out to get you interested in the world. it's like having the weird aliens in the cantina you just get a glimpse of. I think there's something super neat about the questions it raises to keep the viewer engaged after the film's end. did the army do cyborg experiments, or is there a forced alien evolution virus that makes some zombies to get bio-metal skeletons? at the end of the day, its better you don't get an unsatisfying explanation in the movie when it doesn't need it.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Thanks! Just rewatched those scenes and that was fun! It adds to the sense that there's a lot more going on. I read that there's a flying UFO too?

One nonspoiler thing I did catch was the laser they were using (I guess?) to focus the action shots. People thought it was a dead pixel but it moves with the action, and you can see it jiggle.

Spacebump
Dec 24, 2003

Dallas Mavericks: Generations

moths posted:

Thanks! Just rewatched those scenes and that was fun! It adds to the sense that there's a lot more going on. I read that there's a flying UFO too?


Rewatch the very first scene and focus on the sky area in the right side of the frame. It is easy to miss.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

moths posted:

Thanks! Just rewatched those scenes and that was fun! It adds to the sense that there's a lot more going on. I read that there's a flying UFO too?

In the very first scene, as the trucks are leaving Area 51. Pay attention to two lights in the sky. As soon as the trucks roll out they dart off.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
E: Lol double beat

Grey Fox V2
Nov 14, 2008

Augmented Balls of Titanium!

LesterGroans posted:

In the very first scene, as the trucks are leaving Area 51. Pay attention to two lights in the sky. As soon as the trucks roll out they dart off.

Holy loving poo poo, they're an alien nanobot plague? This movie was such a blast.

Grey Fox V2 fucked around with this message at 05:53 on May 22, 2021

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

lol what a dumb movie. kinda fun I guess, though. Really felt like a throwback actually, bits and pieces of 90s movies like Alien Resurrection and Con Air with zombies

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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CV 64 Fan
Oct 13, 2012

It's pretty dope.

Thomas Jane or Casper Van Dien?

I got Ghost Of Mars vibes while watching this. At least that movie was shorter.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
Real good references to The Stand, loved it.

Robot Style
Jul 5, 2009

Who needs Justice League 2 - this movie already has a buff undead alien in a cape going berserk in an apocalyptic scenario after his pregnant wife is killed.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
This film is so much fun and so insane. Massive downer ending, but you know that's what you're in for when you throw on a zombie movie I guess.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

lol what a dumb movie. kinda fun I guess, though. Really felt like a throwback actually, bits and pieces of 90s movies like Alien Resurrection and Con Air with zombies

It’s a throwback to every classic 80s action movie, it just fails miserably at catching the flavour of what made them great, let alone subverting it or having fun with it.

There’s the beefcake Schwarzenegger lead guy - except this one spends the film looking confused by the dumb plot and like he’d rather be outside his trailer BBQing some ribs, the badass Latina from Aliens (pointlessly wasted) the Euro-geek comic relief trope (Look! He’s a nerd! He makes jokes! He’s a scaredy-cat!! He doesn’t know about guns like cool Americans do!!), the square jawed buzzcut company / military bad guy from Rambo and Lethal Weapon except dumb as hell (Martin Kove still currently doing a better job of this on Cobra Kai forty years down the line), the ice cool blonde, the grizzled veteran pilot, the wise cracking armed to the teeth badass from Predator (except we never see him use his weapon and he spends the movie pew pewing with a handgun), and of course the cunning Oriental bad guy mastermind just to top things off ( except he just kinda doesn’t bother showing up again once his absurdly pointless plan is underway)

smellmycheese fucked around with this message at 08:25 on May 22, 2021

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Goon stream was amazing. I loved everything about this movie; the look, the characters, the action design, the crazy rear end genre bending concepts lol. Snyder is a madman. Loved the cast, especially Dieter's screaming, but Bautista especially surprised me. Like drat, I mentioned this during the stream, but it's hard to imagine any other muscular leading man playing Scott like he did. Try and put The Rock in that role, lmao. This was by far and away the best action feature Netflix has produced imo.

Shageletic posted:

why is this movie so long. why is it so boring. why does it feel like everyone is stuck in the BLURRY ZONE

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:

Real good references to The Stand, loved it.

I loved all the Aliens references, lol. And all the Wagner music.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
Give Bautista adorable glasses and let him dominate Hollywood, please

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

LesterGroans posted:

Give Bautista adorable glasses and let him dominate Hollywood, please

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

I liked the billboard advertising Larry Fong as a magician. At least I think I read that right...

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