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STAC Goat posted:That's probably my main issue with Snyder. There's like always that extra once over you can do something and say "that's redundant" or "that goes nowhere" or "that's distracting" and cut it. And Snyder just doesn't wanna do that, it seems. Or just can't. What's funny is he knows it. Like the interview clip there about zombie he's always like "Yeah this is really distracting, that's what I like about it, I really wanted to take you out of the movie at this point"
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Watched the first half last night and the second half tonight. I thought it was pretty good, but more gory than it needed to be. I mean, it's a zombie movie, I don't really watch a lot of these. I'd probably enjoy a PG-13 version more
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May 24, 2021 03:57
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Tanaka Owns the casino. Why did he need someone to pick his locks? Couldnt he access that information somewhere? Vaults like that would be handled by a third party security firm for insurance purposes, and he already collected the insurance
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May 24, 2021 04:35
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As for the movie being too long... It could easily be shorter. There's scenes that were redundant, and some that lingered. I went say which because some of it is spoilers and I don't want to bother with making sure I tag the right parts. BUT, for my part none of the redundant scenes or lingering scenes were boring. They were all compelling to me. You could cut them but you don't have to, there's no real reason to when you don't have to hit a runtime to get more theatrical showings in or something. Like every scene with the queen and king or an alpha stalking and moving around and chittering and screaming was actually pretty long, but in a way I found very tense like "what the heck are they about to do" and the way they moved around was captivating to me, like I could just watch a half hour solid of those alpha zombies interacting with each other, it was gross, alien, beautiful, scary, and weird.
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May 24, 2021 16:51
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Not to launder Spicer's reputation in the slightest but he was gone from the Trump administration less than a year in because he was so bad at his job and a complete laughing stock. He's exactly the kind of person MSNBC or CNN would hire for analysis to say "We have voices from both sides". I'm absolutely sure he would have supported the Trump coup if it had been successful but this was all made like a year before any of that happened. Probably would be easy enough to replace him in post but he has the luxury of not having actively been involved or in the spotlight.
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May 24, 2021 17:29
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Wolfsheim posted:I don't know anything about that guy's life but when I watched this with my SO who does actually follow how much money movies cost/make she kind of wondered aloud how much this would have lost in theaters after advertising if covid hadn't shuffled it off to netflix I thought this was a Netflix production from the start, aside from the preproduction/concept from several years ago. That's one thing I do love about the streaming model, movies like this get made that would never make money theatrically. You are dead on about Dune. I bet it is awesome and also makes no money.
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May 24, 2021 18:11
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I mean, I don't feel like you really needed anything more than Trump talking about how it's extremely American to nuke an American city on the fourth of July. Also a very American perspective, which fair enough, that part is about an American issue (or at least the American version of it), but very few people outside the US is gonna recognize the dude. Frankly, probably not a whole lot inside either. Having a character sarcastically calling the nuke a "Big beautiful explosion" later in the movie would probably do more to anchor the movie in the near-present. When you link this with the zombie container originally being labeled to go to Iran, we have to reach the conclusion that the entire reason they were going to infect Iran with a zombie virus was as a pretext for nuking it
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May 24, 2021 18:30
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When Coyote dropped the queen's head for some reason I briefly forgot physics existed and I thought it was going to bounce and roll away with the king running after it
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May 24, 2021 19:34
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josh04 posted:I thought he was going to do a Spiderman drive after it. he wouldn't have to worry about her neck snapping
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May 24, 2021 20:24
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Jerkface posted:Chambers is an even more direct reference to Vasquez because the actress is half asian/white portraying a latin american gang banger. Is she portraying that? I don't recall her having an accent or anything, and her name doesn't sound particularly like any particular ethnicity. She's a friend of the YouTube guy. That guy isn't a gang banger, he's a social media influencer.
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May 24, 2021 20:41
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Except he works for Newsmax which is, you know, saying that democracy died because the dear leader's coup failed. So, he's literally still a mouthpiece for fascists. That's also a job he started after this movie was made though
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May 24, 2021 20:51
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Jerkface posted:Ya man, they find him infront of a liquor store with an entire gang of ppl dressed as stereotypical gang bangers and when they are invading the city chambers is wearing a vazquez bandana lol This isn't me trying to be snippy or curt, I honestly did not read any of that as gang clothes. I read it as "twitch streamer". Aside from the "Don't forget to like and subscribe", the different YouTube and twitch gamer guys I have seen basically all dress like him and have their hair partially dyed like him. I would totally buy it is also the way a gang member would dress though seeing as how most popular social media looks are appropriation.
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May 24, 2021 21:57
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The only thing I would really say read as formulaic to me is who died, who survived, and the order in which they died. The manner in which they died however was generally real surprising, as well as other plot and character beats
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May 24, 2021 22:10
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2house2fly posted:It fits surprisingly well considering the ending. He's the last remaining member of the team (the daughter invited herself along at the last minute) AND the next Alpha, this time in a place that's going to be much harder to contain, he might be literally ushering in the end times He's an alpha and an Omega
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May 24, 2021 22:32
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I really liked the way the alpha queen zombie was moving around and how dancelike it was. It was very otherworldly and her guttural screeches seemed almost like incantations. The only similarity I see to Cats there is that it is highly choreographed
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May 24, 2021 22:58
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POWELL CURES KIDS posted:I totally forgot that guy, bless his heart. Another good "in a nutshell" point about everyone involved being loving stupid, and that just needing to be something to accept as part of reading the film. It's the same joke behind every subsequent character to join the crew doing so for progressively smaller payouts, right down to the ICE dude who turns up for, like, bus fare and a sandwich punch-card. I think the Zeus holding people before turning them is just a mystery. It's clear there is some reason, cause he's done it with others before, we just don't know what. He definitely seems to be closely examining them.
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May 25, 2021 00:13
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Another thing about Coyote, she's pretty wily.
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May 25, 2021 04:08
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I would have liked to see one of the alphas pick up a gun
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May 25, 2021 14:00
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Jenny Nicholson saw this last night (she liked it) but I was looking at replies to her and saw this which I found particularly unhinged Did I miss something when watching the movie? That didn't happen at all right? The only nudity I remember is the showgirl zombies in the opening credits. And the only other nudity I can remember in a Snyder film is Watchmen which was directly from the comics. (I haven't seen Dawn or 300 which I would not be surprised had nudity, and from my understanding all the Owls in Guardians are mostly nude)
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May 25, 2021 15:31
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NWS that poo poo
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May 25, 2021 15:48
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The zombie apocalypse starts because of a dude getting road head Everything with the heist and nearly everybody dies because of a dude getting a head on the road
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May 25, 2021 17:54
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I would have hated the DoF is it was used to hide information or keep something blurry for a cheap jumpscare but luckily it was not. It seems it was mainly to give you intense focus on an individual character at a time usually to show their emotions and provoke empathy, which I was absolutely fine with.
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May 25, 2021 18:33
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:Except no one emotes. I'd say that of a couple people, notably Tig(but that's kind of her characters gimmick) and security rear end in a top hat, but I thought there was excellent face acting from Bautista, Dieter, Zeus, Coyote, and YouTuber in particular.
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May 25, 2021 19:15
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My takeaway wasn't Van was loving around, my takeaway is Van has a Galaxy brain and always is thinking about these kinds of things Also I suspect the purpose of it is actually a little sinister, it's to encourage a rewatch to bump up views to look more successful on Netflix. Cause hey, time loop theory, might be fun to watch again and look for details. Netflix: Wow a higher than normal percentage of subscribers who watched this watched it twice, get Snyder on the phone and greenlight a sequel John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 25, 2021 |
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May 25, 2021 22:02
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Whether or not a time loop exists, the whole scene of Vanderhoe theorizing it and Dieter imagining it works for me as characterization for both, showing them both as kind of weird, showing them bonding, and making me care more whether they live or die.
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May 25, 2021 23:46
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I get the sense he is evaluating their character and worthiness cause they're going to be part of his society forever. ICE man is such a poo poo he is immediately seen to only be shambler material. That's probably why the queen even goes to see them again, they gave her a poo poo sacrifice
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May 26, 2021 01:35
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KVeezy3 posted:I mean, he got the honor of being turned by Zeus. Hmm... That goes against the theory that if the king turns you, you are an alpha, of an alpha turns you, you are a less than alpha, then shambler, and so on. Here's a theory: your own fear level when turned has a lot to do with what kind of zombie you become. Zeus keeps people at the hotel until they are kind of in the "acceptance" phase instead of screaming in fear the whole time
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May 26, 2021 01:58
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2house2fly posted:Let's take Star Wars. Remove Harrison Ford. Have Billy Connolly perform the part of Han Solo. Try to digitally insert him into the original scenes. Wait... it isn't possible?! The film is rejecting Billy Connolly!! It should have been Al Pacino
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May 26, 2021 03:17
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I don't know who plays Vanderhoe from anything, but that guy absolutely oozed charisma to me
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May 26, 2021 03:23
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CelticPredator posted:Nukes are badass for movies tbh. And kind of patriotic if you think about it
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May 26, 2021 11:32
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People who didn't watch this agree: It's bad. And self indulgent, at that
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May 26, 2021 19:27
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Guy A. Person posted:Oh hey so what did you guys think of the movie besides the whole AIDs thing or wahtever Unlike aids, joining a heist to steal $200 million dollars from a zombie ridden casino IS a death sentence
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May 26, 2021 21:16
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Right outta central casting
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May 26, 2021 21:48
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That's a good read of Zeus and the zombies. I just watched the RLM review and it was really weird that thought Zeus (who they hilariously called "Conan the Zomberian") wanted to raise a zombie army to take over the world and didn't understand why he thought he could do that or why he would want to. I was listening and like "Where the heck are they getting that from?"
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May 27, 2021 01:47
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Has it been brought up that no one in this group of elite badasses considered that $200m won't fit on a helicopter if they were also planning to get out of there? Especially since another recent Netflix movie (Triple Frontier) has this question of how much cash a helicopter can carry as its primary plot vehicle, it comes off as a particularly glaring oversight. Yeah, yeah, the heist was never the point, but most of the people involved signed up for the money - that they never had a way of getting out. Apparently Snyder and somebody actually calculated the weight and volume of $200 million and it was actually doable in the type of helicopter they used. But you'll have to trust SnyderMath
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May 27, 2021 03:06
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teagone posted:Killing Martin also makes more room. Also remember originally they thought they would have another 24 hours
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May 27, 2021 04:22
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If you consider the alphas a completely different species than the shambler, then of course they want to grow. There's only like 100 of them or a little more. The shamblers are basically an underclass and most of their interactions is snarling at them to get the gently caress out of the way. So yeah they want to expand, but how much? They're turning people cause that's the only way to do it, and if they let people come take money they'll keep bringing exchanges, except Zeus has figured out pregnancy possibly.
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May 27, 2021 04:43
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I think Zeus did bite Van. I think he got hit with the fire hydrant right when his teeth were just barely touching and didn't quite break the skin. It wasn't explicitly shown, you doing see the teeth touch, the camera angle obscures it, but I think that's what happened
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May 27, 2021 04:55
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bushisms.txt posted:You need to tell us what the shamblers are producing for this to make sense. Because we know the alphas don't give a poo poo about them being killed, what is the serfdom for? Their only real value is flak. If not for the tens or thousands or more of them, there would be a much more feasible military solution to taking their kingdom back I can't answer for the above poster but zombie society is anti capitalistic in that they give no fucks whatsoever about money because they are free from material want
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Berger is on top of the heiarchy, Lafayette is his general, Woof is on the bottom rung You still have classes in non capitalist society. Star Trek is luxury gay space communism, you still got class structure and both literal rank as well as social rank
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