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 Welcome to the Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta 2021 thread! In its ninth year running, this thread will be the SA headquarters for the Four Job Fiesta, equal parts to keep us from taking over the FF Megathread as well as a single point of action for trading tricks and trips, cursing Gilgabot's lack of mercy, or whatever Fiesta-related discussion you may want. Much like the years before, we hope to bring lots of victories, lots of donations, and lots of berserkers from the Berserker Tree! Quick Links:  So Kyrosiris, what IS the Four Job Fiesta? Every year, RevenantKioku and his trusty sidekick Gilgabot (or maybe it's the other way around?) organize the Fiesta as a charity drive for Child's Play and as a gathering for all FFV fans to celebrate the game. Mechanically, the Fiesta challenges you to play through Final Fantasy V using just one job from each Crystal. Hard Mode ups the ante, allowing Gilgabot to pull from past Crystals - you can, for example, get another White Mage from the Fire Crystal, or a Berserker from the Earth Crystal! In 2012, the Berserker Risk option was added as a way to pump up the difficulty even more - for every $10 raised prior to the Fiesta's start, every Berserker Risk participant was assigned a mandatory Berserker! Enough was raised to stick every participant at Risk with at least one Berserker, and SA member Rosalie_A ended up with what was considered the nastiest team of the Fiesta - a Knight and THREE Berserkers! 2013 renamed Hard Mode to "Random Mode" which is honestly more accurate, and added the new Team 750/No-750 and Natural modes, adding extra fun and challenge. 2015 upped the stakes and added the much-beloved Chaos Mode, which was what we all wanted from Random all along - any job is possible from any crystal, and duplicates are possible, leading to a handful of Chaos Riskers ending up with  FOUR. FREAKING. BERSERKERS. (RIP Everhate, The Chosen One) 2016 graced us with Pure Chaos, which is Chaos without repeats and with Mime and Freelancer in the character pool. 2018 gave us the interesting and GBA-only Forbidden mode - at the cost of permanently losing one of your other three jobs, you can earn the right to use one of the GBA-only jobs - Oracle, Gladiator, or Cannoneer! 2019 gave us Fifth Job - Krile is her own character! Why shouldn't she get a job? She takes Galuf's job and dunks it in the trash (you can't use ANY of its abilities or passives!) and brings her own! Hope you weren't attached to that Geomancer, she's a Berserker now!While the challenge is not one regularly "recommended" for those new to Final Fantasy V, there have been several goons who challenged the Fiesta as their first playthrough of the game and triumphed! That said, the challenge will definitely require a bit more aptitude and awareness of the game's mechanics and neat combos than a game where you plow through everything with !X-Fight, !X-Magic, and other powerful combos (that is, unless Gilgabot is merciful and gives you those combos). It goes a long way to help snap the decision paralysis that plagues a lot of first-time players of FFV, though. Well, I've never played FFV before. Should I try anyways? Absolutely! Like I said, lots of goons have earned their first victory in FFV through the Fiesta - either combinations of the restricted job access giving them real focus to finish the game, or getting advice from the litany of Fiesta veterans that haunt this thread and Discord, or for whatever reason. Plus, FFV is fun, and you're playing for charity (via either your donations or runs that you finish that trigger other people's pledges)! How's this all work, then? What're the rules? An example team would be mine from 2012 - I got Thief, Summoner, Ninja, and Samurai. From the Wind Crystal on, I had to have a full party of Thieves. Once I finished the Water Crystal, I got to choose a configuration of at least 1 Thief and at least 1 Summoner, and then the other two could be either Thieves or Summoners, with no limit aside from having at least one of each. The Fire crystal was the same - I had to field at least one Ninja, Summoner, and Thief at all times, and my fourth character could be what was best suited of my three job options. After the Earth Crystal, that was it - everyone was locked in. You can switch jobs around as is necessary, but you've gotta adhere to those guidelines. If you want your Ninja to learn some Summon Magic, that Summoner has to switch to being a Ninja too. Note that for Natural and Chaos runs, you use Freelancers until you have obtained your assigned jobs. A Ranger/Samurai/Dragoon/Chemist Chaos run would use Freelancers until you get the Black Chocobo, and a White Mage/Time Mage/Bard/Chemist Natural run has Faris as a Freelancer until the same. So who the hell is Gilgabot? Gilgabot is the Twitter bot that does the backend paperwork of the Fiesta. You tweet keywords to him (@FF5ForFutures) at certain thresholds in your playthrough and he will do whatever those correspond to. For example, you can tweet "@FF5ForFutures #Water" to note that you've reached the Water Crystal. Gilgabot will then reply (maybe - he hit the daily tweet limit several times last year) with your Job assignment for that crystal. You can see a full list of his commands here. (link this to letsplaying's commands page when the site's back up) Twitter? Ewww, I don't do that social media bullshit. Tough. Don't blame Gilgabot, blame yourself or God. If you wanna Fiesta (at least officially - no one's stopping you from doing your own using random.org or similar), you gotta tweet. Worst case scenario, you make a throw-away account you use just for the Fiesta and then ignore it. Many goons do this every year.  NOTE THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROTECTED ACCOUNT, YOU WILL HAVE EXTREME DIFFICULTY FIESTA-ING OFFICIALLY. Consider making a throwaway account. Help! Gilgabot gave me a shittacular job combo and $BOSS is kicking my rear end! Relax. Rosalie got through the entire game and even the optional superboss Shinryu in 2012 with a Knight and three Berserkers. You can beat the focus of your ire too, with some strategy and tenacity. That said, we're not going to leave you in the lurch - lots of FFV pros participate in the Fiesta, and in 2012 we came up with a veritable compendium of knowledge, tactics, and advice (which got loving additions in 2013 and 2014, too!). You can find it here, but be aware it contains story and boss spoilers, as well as a significant amount of mechanical information for the game. Other resources include Alcharagia's Primer to FFV's Jobs, Sulla's Solo Single Class Challenges, Mega64's Resource Page, and the FFV Algorithm Guide (for SNES and GBA)! We'll all be prattling away on Enkibot is also back and better than ever! It has moved here and now supports GBA jobs and Mime/Freelancer!!Science is scary and I can't use !Mix, the most powerful ability in FFV! Help me!!!! Relax. Learn the true power of  here. Don't glitch Exdeath! (especially since your victory won't count  )Alright, I'm in! What do I do? Get on Twitter and send Gilgabot (@FF5ForFutures) a pre-registration tweet. This will look something like "@FF5ForFutures #regpurechaos #BERSERKERRISK". Then, just wait for the Fiesta to start! What's New for 2021?  (I'm out of clever predictions)Trivia and Infographic Nonsense! Every year, RevenantKioku puts out an infographic for the year's Fiesta, covering a lot of trivia and data, distribution of classes, stuff like that (as well as how fair and balanced Gilgabot was, which he always is). They're pretty neat, and are timg'd below - click the year (or expand the image, but they're really big) for big. 2011 Infographic:  2012 Infographic:  2013 Infographic:  (Thread) 2014 Infographic:  (Thread) 2015 Infographic:  (Thread) 2016 Infographic:  (Thread) 2017 Infographic:  (Thread) 2018 Infographic:  (Thread) 2019 Infographic:  (Thread) 2020 Infographic:  
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High Quality Goon-Made Fiesta Fanart! 2014 Fanart  (by Bloodwulfe)  (also by Bloodwulfe)  (by Asiina)  (again, by Bloodwulfe)  (by Shoehead)  (yup, still Bloodwulfe)  (Bloodwulfe: still the best)  (THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE MEAN NOTHING TO A_Raving_Loon) Can of Worms is rad as hell and has made multiple FFV Advance patches, including the source of the above gif. Fiesta State Mod(no mechanical changes) FFVA Balance Mod (actual mechanical changes) 2015 Fanart Mega64 takes on the trials and tribulations of the Omnizerker.  (What's Flarnith's art doing here?!)  (neongrey needs to be sure you heard him correctly.) 2016 Fanart  (Asterism has to face some tough choices.)  (Koobes decided to correct Mid a bit.)  (Let's just call this a work by Edward_Tohr and move on with life) 2017 Fanart  (Mikl is having some problems with the weather.)  (Ablative assures me that, just like Ronka, it can only go up uP UP!!)  (Orange Fluffy Sheep demonstrates the value of Butzcoin. BUY IN NOW)  Ablative reminds us of that which we must sacrifice, because the numbers are infallible.)  (Bad Seafood has opinions on robots.) 2018 Fanart  (Aerdan lets us know what's up.)  (Orange Fluffy Sheep has important information that might SAVE YOUR LIFE.)  (Mega64 reminds us that the FBI is full of poo poo.)  (Archenetron is ready for suffering in The Run.)  (Obang Metho has relevant memes.) 2019 Fanart     (Admiral Joeslop pays homage to the King of All Superbosses)  (I fully admit I have no idea what FeyerbrandX was riffing here, but it's rad)  (Azza Bamboo pays off an interdimensional threat) 2020 Fanart  (noooooo vernatio can't just make a meme out of the final boss fight!!!!) 2021 Fanart  (Raitzeno has a present for you!) Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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(This post reserved for  es, as is tradition)quote:As standard, I, Kyrosiris, will toxx for my usual 10 cents a speed trap hit and 2 cents a rod snapped, up to a cumulative total of 100 dollars, to be donated at the end of the Fiesta. girl dick energy posted:
Fenrir posted:Ohhhh, you're on. Soon as I get a summoner. Admiral Joeslop posted:I like big Bartz and I cannot lie. Kyrosiris posted:
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Dr. Bones posted:You know what, gently caress it. As a ultrafilter posted:It's Osci posted:I'm going to go with a similar girl dick energy posted:I just got killed by a Ghidra in the ten steps between Archie and the next cutscene. Galick posted:Hi there! I'm the one making the Waddler rebalance and this is my first foray into game modding in general. I hope the people who choose to use the rebalance have fun with it, and if you find a bug or anything, please let me know! Mustached Demon posted:Then I got the Rosalie_A posted:Alright thread. It's time to talk about overpowered abilities. You know the ones. They can make or break a run. You get three Thieves and despair and then roll a Samurai and go "lol guess I'm throwing money at everything". Ace Transmuter posted:So, after years of the Matrix version genuinely being the easiest to play, my friend bought me an old DS and the FFVA cart, so I'll be returning to the best version. FeyerbrandX posted:So I finally came up with an idea for a nrook posted:
DalaranJ posted:Last year, I asked you to commit The Perfect Crime. This year, I need you to Attack and Dethrone God(s). Doom Goon posted:OMG. DalaranJ posted:Okay, here's a more radical Aerdan posted:https://twitter.com/aerdan/status/1402644546073288705 StrangeAeon posted:yes Koobes posted:
nrook posted:Last minute toxx: Shyfted One posted:
Arrrthritis posted:Got a couple of Toxxes this year for the people who are interested! Hellioning posted:
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In honor of this, and to do something productive with the experience...
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Unreal_One posted:.purechaos+void Wind Job: Berserker Water Job: Mime Fire Job: Freelancer Lost to the void: Thief
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This is a that will get you an exclusive role in the FJF discord DID YOU KNOW: The Rune Chime is flagged as a Song-category attack! DID YOU KNOW: Stompbot cannot evade music! (this is why you can stop lock him with bard) CHALLENGE: Defeat Omega while your only source of damage is a Rune Chime. You can use whatever supporting jobs you want. You may stop-lock. You may mix your Geomancer into godhood. No holds barred... but the only offense is the DING.  to charity and a custom vanity title in the Discord of your choice to the winner!Congratulations, Galick! Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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May 17, 2021 02:47
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Who fights random encounters? 
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May 21, 2021 15:27
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ultrafilter posted:How else are you going to grind your four Geomancers up to beat the bosses? By loving myself more than willingly having four Geomancers. 
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May 21, 2021 16:09
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Raitzeno posted:I have Done A Crime with this. I'm so glad this thread and community exists. 
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May 26, 2021 18:48
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Nasgate posted:(spells) I don't know if it also works this way in the original versions or not, but Quick and song work amazing together. Stats continue to increase and regen continues to tick during the quick pause lmao what So you could set up three singers, Quick, and wait until you were 99/99/99? That's ridiculous.
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May 28, 2021 19:32
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Nasgate posted:Yup, I've never let Treedeath/NED get a single turn when I have BRD. Unless Im messing around to see if I can make barehanded do 9999. That's delightful and the first genuine "this rules" change I've heard with Matrix.
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May 28, 2021 19:44
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Bringing it back from the dead felt really good. 
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Jun 1, 2021 18:51
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girl dick energy posted:I'm sorry, it's what Yeah, RK has to go in and trigger the initial release of jobs and officially turn Fiesta "on".
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Lets gently caress Bro posted:edit: I was wondering something. I haven't played FF5 in a really long time (like, since ZSNES times) so i don't know if this would even be necessary. But is it acceptable to find out all 4 of your crystal jobs from Gilgabot right at the start so I can start planning out my party build, or is that cheating? I am playing just normal #reg I refuse to do this, but I've also completed so many runs with so many team compositions that I think I understand FF5 more intensely than I understand myself. That said no one here will judge you for it, because we ain't no fiesta cops.
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Jun 4, 2021 06:56
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Okay sorry, all the toxxes should be up to date now. If I missed you please give me your best "I'm not mad, just disappointed".
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Shyfted One posted:You can only get multiple berserkers with chaos, right? Not pure chaos? Unless you Berserker Risk and donations are sufficient to invite multiples, correct.
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Jun 5, 2021 16:42
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Yeah, Berserker Risk can give you multiple zerks (depending on donations and RK meddling) on anything that isn't Normal.
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Jun 5, 2021 17:39
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Kazinsal posted:If #blame is back then I might do that as a second run. Something fun to grind on another monitor while levelling in TBC classic. I can't actually put my finger on which of those sounds more miserable.
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Jun 6, 2021 21:12
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Nasgate posted:Blu alone should cut down their time by an hour or two if they use speedrun strats To be fair, Dragondarch has demonstrated an utter disdain for BLU-based shenanigans in the past. Well, anything involving Level X spells, that is. He loves trying to level-sync gunch, to his detriment.
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Jun 7, 2021 16:33
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Zerilan posted:What rate does stuff like L2 old or hero song function at? 1 level per ATB tick? Old is per tick; Hero Song (and all stat-boosting bard songs) are on each on the singer's turns (hence why you use Speed Song first).
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Jun 7, 2021 20:16
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Aerdan posted:Oh. You can copy the save over, no problem. Savestates during the final battle may or may not work (so don't do that), but as long as NED isn't actually loaded… Yeah, in fact I just loaded a battery save on an Exdeath 0.7.1 ROM that started on an Exdeath 0.7.0 ROM (for new Waddler Balance changes) and it worked seamlessly.
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Jun 10, 2021 03:58
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KataraniSword posted:Four Job Fiesta 2021: There is a I swear to god my brain misread this as "free trial" and I was immediately like "WITH THE ACCLAIMED EXPANSION HEAVENSWARD???"
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Jun 10, 2021 18:03
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oldskool posted:Four Job Fiesta: Free(lancer) Trial in the Wind Shrine *writes this down for 2022*
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Rosalie_A posted:That's a thing on all non-Matrix versions, isn't it? They are definitely not on the GBA version.
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Jun 11, 2021 00:59
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It's not even that Natural is hard, it's just boring and way less fun.
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Yeah RK has a very strong "christ I loving wish y'all wouldn't but goons generate a lot of donations so  I guess" attitude towards Neo Cactuar and Friends.
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Ghost-Slug posted:Turns out Chaos was everyone all along! But I have to find Chaos.
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Jun 13, 2021 22:45
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subujun posted:AAAAAAHHHHHHH Oh come now, you can't be angry about a fate you chose. 
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dis astranagant posted:It's not an exception for summons. The holes only react to physical attacks. Cid loving lies to you. Well, specifically, it's all the things that Omniscient will reset the battle for, but yeah, magical commands literally do not provoke anything from holes. (The reason a weapon that procs a spell triggers twice is because it's two incidents of a Physical-based command)
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Mega64 posted:Does that mean under the rug Omniscient is actually a giant hole? There is a small patch of desert surrounding Fork Tower...
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pyromance posted:Jacohl weapon shop sells them in w3 still. I believe the issue is Cattail is doing the "no spending gil" thing.
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pyromance posted:Depending on the version he's playing on, black mage would be equally screwed, as rods also trigger reset. I know SNES does, and pretty sure GBA is the same on that, but I think it was changed in the Matrix versions. Yeah but unlike Flare Blade, Flare is garbo.
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gatesealer posted:Ok, i need to know, I got white mage as my wind job and time mage as my water job (I decided to check and see before getting there), how rough is this run going to be before i get my fire job? Your offense is largely going to be snapping rods. The upside is that snapping rods is pretty good offense.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I like big Bartz and I cannot lie. Oh right, I forgot to screen cap it but I actually did this; did you know that a two-handed Gaia Hammer slaps for like 3500 damage if it doesn't cast Quake? Yeah. Up to you if runs using waddler patch are valid for this or not tho.
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Meow Tse-tung posted:I got blu/rdm/ranger/sam. Whats the best way to set this up? sam/ranger with X-fight and pop a chicken knife on the ranger? Red mage with blue magic for wind knife+aeroga? No idea what to do with the blue mage secondary except maybe red for utility. Eh, only utility Red brings is raising, which is really whatever IMO. I'd honestly pop like Shirahadori on them for more defense. Shira + Aegis is really hard to crack.
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BisbyWorl posted:Also Cura for aoe heals. Well, I should've said "only utility that Blue doesn't already have", sorry. White Wind will lift way harder than dual Curas will.
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One of those could be natural and the other a GMO zerker!
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 I beg to differ that no goods or services were exchanged for this .Hit me on discord for your custom role. 
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Hellioning posted:That is dumb. I love it. To be fair that largely sums up Loon's fiesta content.
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