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SniperWoreConverse posted:and then a mechanism that crunches the data and analyzes everything, right this is one of the biggest problems facing the research right now. jwst, a single scope, produces like 60GB of data to sort through every day. the ska will produce an exabyte of data every day.
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Apr 19, 2024 16:58
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simply train and fund 1 million additional data analysts 
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Apr 19, 2024 17:01
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SniperWoreConverse posted:simply train and fund 1 million additional data analysts i’m down! there’s storage and processing hardware too!
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Apr 19, 2024 17:10
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i guess it makes sense to use a really good computer if you think youre looking for an even better computer
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Apr 19, 2024 17:29
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Not even wit computadahs
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Apr 19, 2024 17:32
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mediaphage posted:this is one of the biggest problems facing the research right now. jwst, a single scope, produces like 60GB of data to sort through every day. the ska will produce an exabyte of data every day. uhh maybe you've heard of a little invention called AI? some people have already used it to find hidden galaxies, exoplanets, and ufos in old pictures. Complaining about data is very blasé these days.
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Apr 19, 2024 18:19
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Human.Frank posted:uhh maybe you've heard of a little invention called AI? some people have already used it to find hidden galaxies, exoplanets, and ufos in old pictures. Complaining about data is very blasé these days. given this thread, i can't tell if you're joking or wildly underestimating the problem. it's an actual problem. not only in terms of the compute power necessary to process the data, and the models being developed to pour through it, but just being able to hold onto it. the upcoming vera rubin telescope, expected to hit first light this january, will generate something on the order of 20TB of data every night of observations. this is, again, a single observatory. and you don't want to necessarily have to scrap all that data (because it's too problematic to store) after a single analysis, because what if you figure out a better model to run on the data. and what about sharing that data with other researchers? so a month of observations from a single observatory will be 600TB. that's hard to deal with now and it's just going to keep getting bigger and bigger as we get more and better telescopes and orbital observatories in place
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Apr 19, 2024 18:32
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I could do it easily, and that's not a joke
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Apr 19, 2024 18:36
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Somebody has issued a correction as of 18:56 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 18:37
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Somebody has issued a correction as of 18:57 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 18:37
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Tape drives. IBM just announced one that does 580tb per cartridge
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Apr 19, 2024 18:38
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Tape drives. IBM just announced one that does 580tb per cartridge they did this to gently caress with us since tape drives were replaced with the floppy and then floppies with the CD, etc. next they're gonna announce a new kind of Floppy Disk that can store a petabyte so we all have to buy new drives again
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Apr 19, 2024 18:41
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tape libraries are cool but amazon won't even let you in the datacenter to watch 'em. the cloud stole so much from us
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Apr 19, 2024 18:47
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Somebody has issued a correction as of 18:55 on Apr 19, 2024 |
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Apr 19, 2024 18:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVN93H6EuAU show this to the aliens and maybe they'll come back
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Apr 19, 2024 18:52
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if aliens existed in an every day common material way, like how humans do in the every day material world (driving to Arby’s, building a pipeline, being buried under a pyramid, brushing your teeth, etc) you would not need precise aim at small points of the night sky to see them. there would be evidence of them in any part of the sky you cared to look at . we don’t see them because they aren’t there in that specific way. I think more and more earth is special. it is literally the center of that common every day universe and there isn’t anything out there in that every day material sense (that’s intelligent or lives like us in the common every day material way). the only reasons other galaxies exists is because we looked at them. they are kind of like a background wallpaper I do think aliens probably exist tho , I suppose
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Apr 19, 2024 19:00
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I could do it easily, and that's not a joke ok
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Apr 19, 2024 19:02
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mediaphage posted:given this thread, i can't tell if you're joking or wildly underestimating the problem. it's an actual problem. not only in terms of the compute power necessary to process the data, and the models being developed to pour through it, but just being able to hold onto it. at ~ current commercial rates (assuming ~ $15/TB), that'd be on the order of $110,000 per year of vera rubin data. That's not nothing (and you'd want backups, of course), but that's also comparative chump change against the design & construction costs which iirc were north of $50M. it's a political problem, not a fiscal or operational one
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Apr 19, 2024 19:07
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aw frig aw dang it posted:tape libraries are cool but amazon won't even let you in the datacenter to watch 'em. the cloud stole so much from us wanna watch the tape machines while listening to voodoo people by the prodigy
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Apr 19, 2024 19:10
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captainbananas posted:at ~ current commercial rates (assuming ~ $15/TB), that'd be on the order of $110,000 per year of vera rubin data. That's not nothing (and you'd want backups, of course), but that's also comparative chump change against the design & construction costs which iirc were north of $50M. again this is one scope, one set of observations, it says nothing about making that data accessible, etc. like really y’all this is an ops problem for astronomers, they talk about this a lot. i mean sure infinite money solves a lot of issues but there’s technological ones here too.
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Apr 19, 2024 19:29
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the number one issue is spiritual
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Apr 19, 2024 19:31
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euphronius posted:the number one issue is spiritual in what sense
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Apr 19, 2024 19:39
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https://youtu.be/QjVJLO6CK2I?si=4EjZ8PpK0Tfe1VNm
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Apr 19, 2024 19:39
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we don’t need telescopes, we need theoscopes
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Apr 19, 2024 19:40
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What we need is for every gun, missile, tank, and jet on this damned planet to be dismantled in front of those that wield them against us. So long as we, as a species, carry this fear inside of us of what the other might do, we are damned
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Apr 19, 2024 19:46
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they show a video of this langley drone swarm. imo it looks like normal drones; also the guy who took the video “saw upwards of five” at one time so it doesn’t exactly seem like there were dozens or something saying they were “round orbs” when viewed from across the bay doesn’t seem that weird imo
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Apr 19, 2024 19:49
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mediaphage posted:they show a video of this langley drone swarm. imo it looks like normal drones; also the guy who took the video “saw upwards of five” at one time so it doesn’t exactly seem like there were dozens or something I laughed when Coulthart insisted they not refer to them as drones, as that would be leading, and then he immediately refers to them as orbs
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Apr 19, 2024 19:59
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Ross, what does all point-source lighting look like at a distance
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Apr 19, 2024 20:00
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I laughed when Coulthart insisted they not refer to them as drones, as that would be leading, and then he immediately refers to them as orbs right? also he kept trying to be like “if these were drones don’t you think you’d be able to hear them” and the dudes like well these were miles away
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Apr 19, 2024 20:03
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imagine four round orbs on the edge of a cliff
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Apr 19, 2024 20:07
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:they did this to gently caress with us since tape drives were replaced with the floppy and then floppies with the CD, etc. The new invention "hard disk" is a type of advanced spinning platter storage tech based off of previous floppy disk technology. in theory a couple asteroids would have enough raw material to build the processing plants to build the factories to build the hard drives needed to build the dataservers etc etc. There's for now enough crap in the solar system to entirely move all industrial processes off earth, keep it as a pleasant world or maybe repair it, and keep almost all of the rest system reserved for future study and not hosed up. but there's no sane way to accomplish it imo. not atm. Plus if anybody decides to break the rules and cheat the system for their own lordly "benefit" for some reason then we're immediately back in the same situation except way worse. Building stuff in space is as appealing as industry because it's basically industry^2, but it's also just as insanely dangerous to society, getting capitalism^2 is going to be idk maybe not super great? In this super idealized society so much could get done, but getting from here to there would be so difficult. I guess a species needs to have to obtain extreme careful planning and really long term thought and consideration to be effective past the animal stage.
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Apr 19, 2024 20:22
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mediaphage posted:they show a video of this langley drone swarm. imo it looks like normal drones; also the guy who took the video “saw upwards of five” at one time so it doesn’t exactly seem like there were dozens or something He mentions 40 at one point but its not part of his video. I think it's also likely they are drones put up by the base itself in response, it's not like China/Russia is going to put big rear end blinking lights that can be seen miles away on the drones they are flying over an American military base. That or they are birds and the aliens don't give a gently caress.
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Apr 19, 2024 20:30
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Spergin Morlock posted:wanna watch the tape machines while listening to voodoo people by the prodigy
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Apr 19, 2024 20:36
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I could do it easily, and that's not a joke Good Soldier Svejk posted:What we need is for every gun, missile, tank, and jet on this damned planet to be dismantled in front of those that wield them against us.  my bony fealty posted:imagine four round orbs on the edge of a cliff 
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Apr 19, 2024 21:12
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captainbananas posted:at ~ current commercial rates (assuming ~ $15/TB), that'd be on the order of $110,000 per year of vera rubin data. That's not nothing (and you'd want backups, of course), but that's also comparative chump change against the design & construction costs which iirc were north of $50M. Vera Rubin is my sister
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Apr 19, 2024 22:25
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mediaphage posted:again this is one scope, one set of observations, it says nothing about making that data accessible, etc. I struggled with the costs involved with just backing up 15 terabytes, although that has subsided somewhat by advances in sizes of external drives. I can't even imagine what those folks will have to contend with.
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Apr 19, 2024 22:27
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Bilirubin posted:Vera Rubin is my sister hello Ruth
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Apr 19, 2024 22:27
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Spergin Morlock posted:hello Ruth Um, its Bili? Nobody has called me Ruth in years
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Apr 19, 2024 22:30
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https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/new-documentation-reveals-significant-flaws-in-us-governments-ufo-investigation
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Apr 19, 2024 22:46
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https://thedebrief.org/nasa-veteran...earths-gravity/quote:Dr. Charles Buhler, a NASA engineer and the co-founder of Exodus Propulsion Technologies, has revealed that his company’s propellantless propulsion drive, which appears to defy the known laws of physics, has produced enough thrust to counteract Earth’s gravity. EMDrive is back awoooo
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