blatman posted:

if mars is fake then where do mars bars come from

Slavvy posted:

I was gonna say the state of either planet either side of ours but that works too

Riot Bimbo posted:

mars is fake

coconono posted:

the moon is fake. I keep saying this in youtube live chats.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

for the last loving time mars is an identified object a ufo is an unidentified flying object get it right or suffer the consequences

Riot Bimbo posted:

you're fake

Azathoth posted:

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Delta-Wye posted:

i searched and i found some literature about this! it's out of print, but i was able to get a copy off of amazon. i will report back in a couple days with what i learn

Rickshaw posted:

this book was everywhere in the 90s. is it the reason why the older generation is hosed up?

quote:

Young adults with multiple mental illnesses may share a common neurological "signature," new research suggests.

The study, published April 24 in the journal Nature Medicine(opens in new tab), builds on a concept known as the "general psychopathology factor," or p factor, which studies suggest is a consistent pattern of psychiatric characteristics seen in patients with multiple mental disorders. However, the p factor doesn't explain whether these behavioral patterns have a neurological basis, meaning they can be linked to structural or functional features of the brain.

In the new study, researchers created a neurobiological counterpart to the p factor that they call a neuropsychopathological (NP) factor. Using data from a large group of adolescents followed into young adulthood, the researchers identified specific patterns of brain connectivity tied to symptoms of psychiatric disorders.

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I think people give him way too much poo poo for this. He doesn't make "official statements" but he does hint at pretty specific things now and then, things that are absolutely sobering.

He hinted at the soul being a real thing, that who we are is not just our brain. He hinted that even if he had brain damage, "I'm still Lue", that there's something deeper that makes someone someone.

He hinted at basically a sort of invisible spirit realm were constantly in. He said that we used to only know about plants and animals, then someone discovered microbes and we found out there was an entire world of invisible life around us - and that if you took the biomass of all that life and added it up, it's more than the other kingdoms combined.

He basically said there was another world of invisible life all around us that we can't sense, that it's the next generation of "microbe" type discovery. He said he saw proof at the Vatican.

He hinted that we're much much smaller of a lifeform relative to that sort of life, way smaller than we thought. It's almost like he was saying relative to complex life, we're like microbes. He was talking about how if you were floating in space, you only know your size relative to other objects. You see another man floating in space, and you believe you're the biggest thing in the universe. But what if you're not? And after talking about this invisible life, seems to imply we are much smaller than it.

He also said that "what if the history of mankind... Was not exactly what we thought". Very vague in this instance, but still, that's some clearly sobering poo poo to realize.

He's said along with Jim Semivan, "what if we're not the Apex predators we think we are. What if we are in fact, 2 or 3 steps down the food chain". That's pretty specific, and loving sobering.

He's said CE5 works but you don't want to do it. He's telling us meditating can call them over and that it's essentially dangerous. This loving statement alone proved to me telepathy in context of the phenomenon isn't as crazy as I thought. He's said poo poo that opened my mind, and it was not vague.

Yes, he doesn't make "official" statements, not like "I learned so and so as a director of AATIP". But people aren't listening to him if they think he's being too vague and not saying a drat thing. If you actually watch his interviews, sometimes he gets pretty drat specific and it's clear what he's inferring, even if he's not officially stating it. People aren't paying attention if they think he hasn't said some heavy poo poo.

People give him way too much poo poo about being vague. He's leaked a hell of a lot more than people imply. It's just, wtf do you do with that knowledge? Nothing. It changes nothing about our lives. It isn't hard disclosure. It won't give you any new knowledge to act upon.

I think that's what bugs people - "if you know so much why don't you tell us!" But that's not really what people are asking for. They want life changing proof that opens everyone's eyes. You're not going to get that from a loving podcast, but you will hear some insider poo poo that shows he's talking whether people says he does or not.

He does say poo poo to people that listen. But to listen you need to sit through hour long interviews. I don't blame people for not listening, but let's not pretend he doesn't say heavy poo poo. And people might not like or believe what he says, and that's fine, but he is talking.

Tekne posted:

psycho power makes you a body hopping super villain in video games but crazy irl

it's unfair i tell ya

here's a good summary of the sobering https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/134o55e/has_anybody_heard_this_yet_some_new_lue_elizondo/

what's most sobering for is that his beloved murika aint poo poo in the real hierarchy of power

Tekne posted:

psycho power makes you a body hopping super villain in video games but crazy irl

it's unfair i tell ya

here's a good summary of the sobering https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/134o55e/has_anybody_heard_this_yet_some_new_lue_elizondo/

what's most sobering for is that his beloved murika aint poo poo in the real hierarchy of power

my bony fealty posted:

anything ever happen with Garry Nolan's buddy's evidence of a shadow biosphere

goochtit posted:

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

if half of what Lue "hints" at is true and he hasn't come out and said it yet he's a traitor to the species

and hell, maybe rightfully so, but the fact remains

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

traitor to the species

pancake rabbit posted:

balloon chat is BACK baybeeee

https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/1653112156886294535

pancake rabbit posted:

balloon chat is BACK baybeeee

https://twitter.com/TomNamako/status/1653112156886294535

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

if half of what Lue "hints" at is true and he hasn't come out and said it yet he's a traitor to the species

quote:

“It may be activating internal covert consciousness, bringing out memories of the past, it could be a brain survival mechanism, we don’t know,” said Borjigin.

mr_jolly posted:

People in comas showed ‘conscious-like’ brain activity as they died, study says

I keep seeing this in regards to stuff like nde's etc but how or why would the brain have selectively evolved a survival mechanism which kicks in at the point of death? Surely useful traits have to be present at the point a living thing is able to pass them on to the next generation, not just before they kick the bucket and are of no use to anyone?

I guess another way to explain this which makes more sense is that the brain is merely a receiver and not the source of consciousness. Nicely explains terminal lucidity too.