GoonTier 2021: NFL Fantasy Promotion/Relegation Keeper League (Season 9)

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darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Pat Mahomes 1st Round is the only Round Edition

What is Promotion / Relegation?

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Wikipedia posted:
In sports leagues, promotion and relegation is a process where teams are transferred between two divisions based on their performance for the completed season.
The best-ranked teams in the lower division are promoted to the division above, and the worst-ranked teams in the higher division are relegated to the division below.

Tier A (the Tier Jerkers) is a keeper league. Tier B (the Trail of Tiers) is a redraft league. Sucks to be in Tier B.

Buyin: $20 (may be revised for the 2020 season)
Website: ESPN
Tiers: 2
# of teams per tier: 12
# of teams promoted each year: 3 winners of a 6 team playoff
# of teams relegated each year: 3 losers of a 4 team playoff
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout
Roster: QB 2 RB 2 WR TE FLEX 1 DL 2 LB 2 DB DFLEX 7 BN IR
Scoring: 0.5 PPR, otherwise ESPN Standard

IDP Scoring

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Tackle Solo: 1
Tackle Assist: .5
Sack: 3
Interception: 4
Fumble Force: 3
Fumble Recovery: 3
Defensive Touchdown: 6
Safety: 6
Pass Defended: 1
Block Kick : 6
Tackles for Loss: 2

Payout
Each tier has a separate, but equal, payout

1st place: $115
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $20
Highest points total each week of regular season: $5 (x13)

Keeper System

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A) Every keeper has a one round penalty.
B) Penalties that can't be enforced will transfer to the next highest keeper.
C) If a round is not available, a greater round will be used. If a greater round is not available, the first available lower round will be used and a penalty will be assessed for each round below the keeper's value.
D) All penalties must be enforced.
E) The following season, keeper value is based off the highest of the following: 1) The round drafted in the previous season or 2) their draft value last season prior to any transferred penalties.
F) Once a player hits free agency in any form, that player is no longer eligible to be kept the following season.

Example:

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2012 Draft:
1.) Drew Brees
2.) DeMarco Murray
4.) Percy Harvin
16.) Alfred Morris

2013:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
 	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (2nd rounder) 
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
3.) Harvin (4th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
13.) Morris (16th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Brees
	-1 for keeping DeMarco

2014:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (3rd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
8.) Morris (13th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
 	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)

2015: 
Can�t legally apply penalties to keep only Brees, DeMarco, Harvin, and Morris. 
One way to fix this is to let go one or more of the players. 
Another possibility is to keep 2014 20th round pick Johnny Manziel to absorb additional penalties.

2015:
1.) Brees (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
2.) DeMarco (1st rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
3.) Harvin (2nd rounder)
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Harvin
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping DeMarco
	Can�t apply -1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
4.) Morris (8th rounder)
 	-1 for keeping Morris
	-1 for keeping Harvin
	-1 for keeping DeMarco
	-1 for keeping Brees
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	Can�t apply -1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd round pick (Harvin)
17.) Manziel (20th rounder)
	-1 for keeping Manziel
	-1 for using a 2nd rounder on a 1st rounder (DeMarco)
	-1 for using a 3rd rounder on a 2nd rounder (Harvin)

Supplemental Draft
Every year at least three teams in Tier A will be disbanded. The players comprising their rosters will be put into one large player pool. Teams from Tier B will be promoted to take their place, and they will be able to select keepers from the player pool in a supplemental draft.

Any players selected in the supplemental draft will retain the same value they would have if they were kept by their previous owner. For example, if a relegated team drafted Andrew Luck in the 14th round, drafting Andrew Luck in the supplemental draft would let the new owner keep him in the 13th round (barring any other penalties).

Owners will have an unlimited number of picks in the supplemental draft, but their keepers must abide by the same keepers rules as the rest of the league. Once every owner opts out of the draft, and the commissioner determines that their keepers adhere to the league's keeper rules, the supplemental draft is over.

The supplemental draft will be in order of their finish in Tier B. The draft will snake.

Draft Order
The first year the draft order will be randomized. After that, the two tiers will follow the following draft order:

Tier A
1: 1st place Tier B
2: 2nd place Tier B
3: 3rd place Tier B
4: 9th place Tier A
5: 8th place Tier A
etc, etc

Tier B
Random

The draft will snake. Every attempt will be made to accommodate a live draft.

Trades
Trades will now process instantly. I'll obviously reserve the right to veto extreme attempts at collusion / cheating. We've got a good group of people here, so I doubt it'll ever come to that.

Trade deadline is the last week of the season.

Trade Draft Picks At Your Own Risk
Future draft picks can be traded in Tier A. However, keep in mind that the draft picks of a relegated team are valueless.

Furthermore, if you trade your own future draft pick to a team, your rights to that draft pick are forfeited (even if that team is then later relegated).

Ties
During the regular season, matchups can result in a tie. It's not very likely because we're using fractional points, but I've seen it happen before.

Overall record determines playoff seeding. Ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

During the playoffs, ties will be broken in the following order:
- Points For (season)
- Points Against (season)
- Coin flip

Relegation Cannot Be Avoided
If someone in Tier A decides not to continue on next season for whatever reason, their roster will join the player pool for the supplemental draft and an additional team from Tier B will be promoted to take their place.

# ? May 24, 2021 20:37

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# ? May 6, 2024 08:48

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

History:

2020 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2019 GoonTier Champion: jabro
2018 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2017 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2016 GoonTier Champion: dewey7788
2015 GoonTier Champion: zeroordie
2014 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42
2013 GoonTier Champion: darkspider42

2020 thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3933059

Moving Up: thecriterionman, "The New Guy", dkj
Moving down: Lock, Boywunda, Anubis

Supplemental Draft:

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Name 					Draft Round
Saquon Barkley�NYG,�RB			1+1
Todd Gurley II�Atl,�RB			1+1
Joe Mixon�Cin,�RB			1+1
Calvin Ridley�Atl,�WR			1
Amari Cooper�Dal,�WR			1
Derrick Henry�Ten,�RB			1
Melvin Gordon III�Den,�RB		2
Chris Godwin�TB,�WR			2
Keenan Allen�LAC,�WR			2
Devin Singletary�Buf,�RB		3
Will Fuller V�Hou,�WR			4
Nick Chubb�Cle,�RB			4
Christian Kirk�Ari,�WR			5
J.J. Watt�Ari,�DE			6
AJ Dillon�GB,�RB			6
T.J. Watt�Pit,�DE			6
Jarvis Landry�Cle,�WR			7
Blake Martinez�NYG,�LB			7
Deion Jones�Atl,�LB			8
Marvin Jones Jr.�Det,�WR		8
Jordan Poyer�Buf,�S			9
Matthew Stafford�LAR,�QB		9
Mark Andrews�Bal,�TE			10
Jerome Baker�Mia,�LB			12
Jared Cook�FA,�TE			12
Rashaan Evans�Ten,�LB			13
DK Metcalf�Sea,�WR			13
Courtland Sutton�Den,�WR		14
Sterling Shepard�NYG,�WR		15
Tom Brady�TB,�QB			16
Matt Ryan�Atl,�QB			16
DeForest Buckner�Ind,�DT		19

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Aug 13, 2021

# ? May 24, 2021 20:38

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Watch this space for the -

Tier A Keepers:

Draft Order:

Tier A:

1 thecriterionman
2 "The New Guy" (pending)
3 DkJ
4 SouthShoreSamurai
5 Veritek83
6 zeroordie
7 darkspider42
8 Hot Diggity!
9 Mikey Purp
10 jabro
11 Baser instinct
12 dewey7788

Tier B (no particular Order):

1.Brownhat
2. von Metternich�
3. Chen kenichi
4. 3 dong horse
5. Hiroprotagonist
6. barnold
7. Gobias Ind
8. Master Stur
9. Whoreson Welles
10. Boywunda
11. Anubis (pending)
12. Lock (pending)

darkspider42 fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Aug 12, 2021

# ? May 24, 2021 20:38

Boywunda: Jun 25, 2003

Weeeeeee! Back down to Tier B to prove that I already know how to win a redraft.... And suck balls at keepers.

# ? May 24, 2021 21:24

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

Back for more bling.

And Pat Mahomes is a 13th round keeper! :circlefap:

jabro fucked around with this message at 00:13 on May 25, 2021

# ? May 25, 2021 00:10

barnold: Dec 16, 2011; what do u do when yuo're born to play fps? guess there's nothing left to do but play fps. boom headshot

I'm in for tier B, yet again. let's do this thing

# ? May 25, 2021 04:59

HiroProtagonist: May 7, 2007

here to continue my undefeated streak of not being promoted out of tier b :thurman:

# ? May 25, 2021 14:11

Gobias Ind.: Apr 5, 2007; If your girlfriend says hey to me that's our girlfriend now idc

HiroProtagonist posted:

here to continue my undefeated streak of not being promoted out of tier b

Same. Can't wait to start out 4-1 and then limp to a 7-6 finish and first round exit for like the 4th straight year.

# ? May 25, 2021 14:24

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Gobias Ind. posted:

Can't wait to start out 4-1 and then limp to a 7-6 finish and first round exit for like the 4th straight year.

This truly is the dream for all fantasy football players

# ? May 25, 2021 18:59

Whoreson Welles: Mar 4, 2015; ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!

Get back down here Boywunda I got a bone to pick with you

# ? May 25, 2021 19:55

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Gobias Ind. posted:

Same. Can't wait to start out 4-1 and then limp to a 7-6 finish and first round exit for like the 4th straight year.

Not empty quoting

# ? May 25, 2021 20:09

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Gobias Ind. posted:

Same. Can't wait to start out 4-1 and then limp to a 7-6 finish and first round exit for like the 4th straight year.

I did that but the opposite. Started 1-5, ended 7-6 after a 5 game win streak to wrap up the season.

# ? May 25, 2021 20:30

SouthShoreSamurai: Apr 28, 2009; It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.; Fun Shoe

Aww yeah, I appreciate the reminder of how I got salty how my season ended... only to find out I had a 2nd chance playoff and ended up staving off relegation. Let's goooooooooo!!

# ? May 26, 2021 22:16

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

SouthShoreSamurai posted:

Aww yeah, I appreciate the reminder of how I got salty how my season ended... only to find out I had a 2nd chance playoff and ended up staving off relegation. Let's goooooooooo!!

Winning out of the regulation bowl is a much sweeter victory than actually winning the league.

# ? May 26, 2021 22:54

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

darkspider42 posted:

Winning out of the regulation bowl is a much sweeter victory than actually winning the league.

Yes it is.

# ? May 26, 2021 23:43

von Metternich: May 7, 2007; Why the hell not?

I'm in for this year, with extremely low hopes as usual.

# ? May 27, 2021 07:31

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Will be gifting "The New Guy" a forums account this weekend. Just want to talk to him and walk him through his sentence as a goon first.

And yes we are both in. Our IRL friends suck at this game so y'all are a welcome challenge.

# ? May 27, 2021 23:36

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

Just have him post his introductory post in GBS and everything will be fine.

# ? May 28, 2021 02:07

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

jabro posted:

Just have him post his introductory post in GBS and everything will be fine.

And make sure he signs his post

# ? May 28, 2021 04:27

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Actually if someone can make a gif of Cam not diving on the fumble I think I'd have the perfect avatar for him :angel:

# ? May 28, 2021 16:42

Veritek83: Jul 7, 2008; The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.

I'm in

# ? Jun 1, 2021 14:20

dkj: Feb 18, 2009

I�m in.

# ? Jun 27, 2021 21:40

Whoreson Welles: Mar 4, 2015; ON TO THE NEXT PAGE!

Tick tock, GoonTier. Tick tooooock.

I�m just very excited for football now that hockey is over.

# ? Jul 16, 2021 13:15

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

check in time - anyone who hasn't posted but watching this space.

If I don't see anything from people I'll start messaging on Monday.

# ? Jul 30, 2021 04:03

Baser Instinct: Oct 18, 2004; No title necessary

I�m back and ready for another season in Tier A.

# ? Jul 30, 2021 04:06

jabro: Mar 25, 2003; July Mock Draft 2014

1st PLACE
RUNNER-UP
got the knowshon

Back

# ? Jul 30, 2021 04:10

dkj: Feb 18, 2009

Back

# ? Jul 30, 2021 04:29

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

I am ready to stay mediocre in tier A

# ? Jul 30, 2021 14:31

zeroordie: Aug 27, 2004

ok fine

# ? Jul 30, 2021 16:58

Master Stur: Jun 13, 2008; chasin' tail

Back

# ? Jul 30, 2021 21:19

Chen Kenichi: Jul 20, 2001

Front

Do the opposite what everyone else does and I am sure to get promotion!

# ? Jul 31, 2021 01:39

Mikey Purp: Sep 30, 2008; I realized it's gotten out of control. I realize I'm out of control.

Definitely back

# ? Jul 31, 2021 02:27

Brownhat: Jan 25, 2012; One cannot be a good person and enforce unjust laws.

Sure, I'm back.

# ? Aug 1, 2021 23:41

Pain of Mind: Jul 10, 2004; You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t

Like mentioned last year, if you have a wait list going I would be interested in getting in line assuming someone does not return and you are looking for more.

Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Aug 4, 2021

# ? Aug 1, 2021 23:59

dewey7788: Oct 10, 2004; Don't Toews me bro!

Hey guys. Let's get it.

# ? Aug 3, 2021 23:36

thecriterionman: Dec 21, 2020

im in

# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:41

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Keepers and grade are below, correct me if my keeper penalties are wrong.

Previous year's keepers and round cost.

Hot Diggity! posted:

NO. PLAYER

1 Davante Adams GB, WR
14 Aaron Jones GB, RB
15 Harrison Smith Min, S
18 Eric Kendricks Min, LB

Last year's draft

darkspider42 posted:

for historical purposes

This year's keepers and round cost (I think)

ROUND COST - PLAYER

1+1 - Davante Adams
2 - Stefon Diggs (was fourth round pick last year, couldn't apply 1st round keeper penalty to Adams)
7 - Chase Edmonds
12 - Justin Jefferson
13 - Aaron Jones
17 - Eric Kendricks

Hot Diggity! fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Aug 9, 2021

# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:41

Hot Diggity!: Apr 3, 2010; SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Also woof that second round...

# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:56

SouthShoreSamurai: Apr 28, 2009; It is a tale,
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.; Fun Shoe

Ok, first time staying in Tier A so hopefully I did this right:

CEH - 1+1
Diontae Johnson - 9 (10 +1 for CEH)
Travis Kelce - 12
Parris Campbell - 13
Tee Higgins - 14
Laviska Shenault - 15
Brandon Aiyuk - 16

May the football gods have mercy on me for not keeping Our Lord and Savior Brandon Deebo...

# ? Aug 9, 2021 22:07

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# ? May 6, 2024 08:48

darkspider42: Oct 7, 2004; Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

Still need to hear from Anubis, Lock for Tier B and New Guy (not sure forum name yet) for Tier A.

Thoughts on Draft dates or times for both tiers?

# ? Aug 11, 2021 23:04

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