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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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That OP needs a serious update

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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A friend of a friend had a C-Section done in a Winnipeg hospital and was discharged in under 24 hours because she was told there wasn't enough room or staff to continue care.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Hahaha what the gently caress man

https://twitter.com/Zach_Fleisher/status/1400106210767126539?s=20

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Manitoba Building Trades has been ousted from the Manitoba Construction Sector Council, over what its executive director believes was a disagreement over a nuanced government initiative regarding micro-credentials.

Although there are differing views as to the rationale of the MCSC board’s vote to expel MBT, the result is about 10,000 workers no longer have a voice at the board room table of a publicly funded sector council.

Sudhir Sandhu, the chief executive officer of MBT, said it was a shock that the board took the action it did.

"It is evident to us that this was a very carefully manufactured crisis… to remove a particular organization," he said. "We think the micro-credential issue was used as an excuse."

MBT represents 13 member unions and engages in project partnerships on training and productive labour practices.

Sandhu believes the germ of the expulsion was planted after he made a public comment on a television news item, expressing some reticence about the appropriateness of micro-credential programs and the damage it might cause to apprenticeship programs.

That was in February.

That news was followed by a letter from MCSC’s executive director, Carol Paul (along with chairwoman, Colleen Munro) in early March to three provincial cabinet ministers disavowing Sandhu’s take on micro-credentials.

Among other things, the letter stated, "The comments made, and specifically those relating to micro-credentials, in no way reflect the position of MCSC or its board of directors. We sincerely apologize for any confusion this misinformation may have caused."

In an email exchange asking why MBT was voted out of the sector council, Paul made no reference to the micro-credential issue.

She said, "The decision to make a governance and relational change between the council and MBT was based on many factors, not any one particular instance."

She also said, "As they (MBT) have continued to grow in their capacity as a for-profit organization, it became increasingly apparent that the best path forward was to allow our very different mandates to unfold separately, especially given that we are a not-for-profit."

Sandhu took exception to that characterization, saying the MBT is not-for-profit and holds a very minor stake in a training organization called the Manitoba Building Trades Institute which, along with industry partners like PCL and Bird Construction, undertakes all sorts of training.

The promotion of micro-credentials is a popular buzzword often used these days in the context of short term post-pandemic skills training.

In a recent report from the province called "Manitoba’s Skills, Talent and Knowledge Strategy" it states that one of the things that can happen in the short term is to "explore opportunities for micro-credentials and layering of credentials that could work in a Manitoba context and across jurisdictions, assisting with economic recovery and helping individuals displaced in the pandemic to quickly top-up their skills and connect to the labour market."

Among other things Sandhu cautions against a reliance on micro-credentials in the trades fields because of the potential lack of long term options for workers skilled in only one specific task.

"In Toronto there may be enough home building for door hangers or framers, but we can’t afford that in Manitoba," Sandhu said. "We need to create carpenters who have a full scope of practice."

He said there is no evidence of workers taking trades-related micro-credential courses going on to enrol in apprenticeship programs in Manitoba.

It’s not clear where this dispute is headed. Sandhu said he hopes cooler heads will prevail.

A spokeswoman for Ralph Eichler, Manitoba’s Minister of Economic Development and Training, whose department funds the sector councils, said, "Government’s role is not to interfere with, or be in support of or against decisions the council makes, and this decision was made independently of government."

While Paul said, "workers will continue to have a strong voice at MCSC through our many members organizations, partners and stakeholders" it will have the distinction of being the only construction sector council in the country without labour representation.

Marc Lafond, business manager for the Operating Engineers of Manitoba Local 987 and board chairman of MBT said it is the only construction association that represents labour exclusively.

"Manitoba no longer has a true construction sector council if Manitoba Building Trades is not represented," he said.

The MCSC was founded more than 10 years ago and its founding and only members have been the MBT, Winnipeg Construction Association, Manitoba Home Builders Association and Manitoba Heavy Construction Association.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Lmao, congrats Manitoba, we can't go for a walk outside with our friends but we were able to create a specific exemption for hockey games

https://twitter.com/stevelambertwpg/status/1400156670370713612?s=20

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Willatron posted:

Our Province is so deep in the pocket of True North that this isn't even surprising.

Every day this province becomes more and more depressing

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1400169820251987968?s=20

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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100% Pallister demanded they put people in the stands at the Jets game because national and international media is slamming his handling of the pandemic and an empty arena on TV is embarrassing.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Pallister turns down 24k AZ vaccines because ??????

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Ahhhhh gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you gently caress you

https://twitter.com/bkives/status/1400486712070004740?s=20

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Alctel posted:

Did the press push back on this at all?

He didn't take any questions or comments at this press conference as far as I know, there is sure to be another round of editorials calling him a liar I'm sure though

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Randalor posted:

So what happens to the people shipped out of province once they've recovered anyways? Who foots the bill for them to come back, considering they probably didn't go voluntarily?

The province is paying to airlift them there and back and presumably footing the bill for their care. No one seems to know how the gently caress they are going to bring back the two people that died in Ontario though so the families can make funeral arrangements.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Willatron posted:

Not exactly true. In 2014 the MB NDP caucus attempted to remove Greg Selinger from his seat as premiere because they felt he was tanking the party's position of power (he had to raise PST in order to repair damages and upgrade infrastructure following disastrously unprecedented flooding of the Interlake region in 2011, previous to that all our floodway infrastructure was more focused around lake Winnipeg and the Red River as that's where the flooding typically happened).

Led by Theresa Oswald, they had what the media described as mutiny to vote Selinger out and install Oswald as new premiere. It failed, the whole thing was very public and damaging PR-wise and while the NDP's position was slightly shaky due to Selinger's taxation decisions (among other things I don't recall atm), this mutiny almost definitely put the final nail in the coffin for the MB NDPs almost 2 decade run as a majority government, ushering in everybody's favorite son of a bitch Pallister into power in 2016.

(EDIT: It has been nearly a decade since most of this went down so my memory is likely spotty on the details, so if I got any of this wrong I don't mind being corrected by more well-informed goons on the subject)

The PST increase is always thrown out as the reason for the NDPs decline in popularity in Manitoba but the party was already declining in popularity due to the PCs baseless attacks on major infrastructure projects like BiPole III and the Keeyask dam and the state of Hydros finances. The PST was kind of a final nail in the coffin type of thing that was generally unpopular because Selinger had promised not to raise the PST during the 2011 campaign only 2 months earlier. The other issue the NDP faced was rot within the party, they were a combination of career back benchers and career climbers that were only interested in popularity so they could stay employed. In general the NDP began to completely fall apart when the economy started slipping and they couldn't effectively get the message out why deficit spending is good and why we needed big infrastructure now.

As for the leadership election, the rumour has always been that Steve Ashton only ran to draw votes from Oswald and there was some sort of closed back door meeting with some union delegates to ensure Ashtons delegates moved to Selinger on the second ballot. This was pretty well reported and further eroded trust in Selinger.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Willatron posted:

Thanks for the primer! God, it's so lovely how that all played out. The current MB NDP doesn't seem at all like the same party Selinger was leading but they get to carry all the baggage his administration created anyway, plus Wab's history to boot. I don't particularly hold any of it against them but I know a lot of people do.

I'm still bearish on Wab, his history is a thing but you can only drag that up so many times before the public stops giving a poo poo in general. His heart seems to be in the right place in general lately especially during the pandemic, the NDPs core message should be universal care and compassion for all and the resistance to privatization the PCs are currently pushing so hard. The 2023 election is going to come down to whether or not the NDP can counter the PCs PR campaigns and keep how loving dire the pandemic was for Manitoba under the PCs.



InfiniteZero posted:

I'm sure Pallister is deeply concerned considering he never wanted to still be Premier at this point anyway and whoever follows him will still take care of him and retain the vote of the rural dumbfucks of Manitoba as well. He's just a fall guy for whoever takes over from him at this point and it couldn't be more transparent. The vitriol against him specifically is GREAT for the MB PCs and working entirely as intended.

Like for example the art you shared, personally I like it, but considering anybody who owns a home in Manitoba just got an education tax rebate from the PC government, they will look at that artwork then look at their cheque and conclude "well, he's looking out for people like me, I'm part of that exclusive club, look at this anarchist poo poo under the bridge where can I go to vote for Premier Goertzen please".

Counterpoint I feel the PCs currently strategy is the what Bannon and Trump did in the States which is to do so much stupid poo poo at once that the public in general can't keep up, it's full on accelerationism from this point out to try and irreversibly change and reshape the province to fit what the PCs want until 2023. It's just constant omnibus bills and press conferences, it's enough to make your head spin.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

You wore that on Halloween?
Manitoba PCs sold a provincial park and there's two others out for RFPs right now

https://twitter.com/WilderNewsMB/status/1402044799469817856?s=20

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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infernal machines posted:

The tweet says one has been privatized, but the article says there are RFPs out for the three parks, so it's still in the proposal stage. There is an official opposition in Manitoba isn't there? You'd expect someone to have made mention of selling off provincial lands before it passed legislature.

Three RFPs were put out and one has been finalized, St. Ambroise Beach is now Surfside Park and the entrance fee has doubled. The opposition does not need to approve the sale of parks.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/pallister-government-accused-of-privatizing-provincial-park-574582812.html

I don't think this is paywalled, but here's the text. The park is now on a 21 year lease.

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Premier Brian Pallister's government may have told Manitobans it would never sell provincial parks — but it didn't say they wouldn't be leased.

Until Monday, Manitobans who went to St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park were told their provincial park passes were invalid after a 21-year lease was awarded to Manitoba businessman Sterling Ducharme in January to operate the 46-hectare of Crown land.

News of the lease has sparked warnings from environmental groups and opposition leaders, who say this is the first step to the privatization of Manitoba parks.

Ducharme, who owns a general store in the nearby village of St. Ambroise, would not comment Monday.

Late Monday afternoon, Conservation and Climate Minister Sarah Guillemard said in a statement there had been "recent misinformation" and "confusion" about park passes not being accepted at St. Ambroise.

"Manitobans will have full access to this public space with their provincial park passes as has always been the intention," said Guillemard.

But Guillemard defended the province's decision to lease the park.

"The province's partnership with this service provider is enabling St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park to be revitalized and to recover from the previous damage... the previous NDP government did nothing to help St. Ambroise Beach Provincial Park since the 2011 flood and instead sat idly until our government took action to enhance the visitor experience at the park by engaging in the partnership with the service provider.

"Our provincial parks are not for sale, but they are ready for improvements... we will continue to build partnerships to help enhance visitors' experiences."

On the weekend, Amanda Walder was one of many who were shocked to learn her provincial pass wasn’t valid at the park, located about 70 kilometres northwest of Winnipeg on the southeast shore of Lake Manitoba.

When she arrived with her $44 park pass, Walder said a man at a hastily erected checkpoint, with a hand-written sign, demanded she pay a $10 daily user fee to go to the beach.

She told him she had no cash, so he waved her through, but not before telling her that a local man was running the park, having invested $100,000 in the site because the government didn’t want to pay anyone to maintain the washrooms at the beach, Walder said.

She said other beach-goers told her husband they had paid the $10 fee to access the beach.

Walder, who regularly uses provincial parks, said she’s angry the government has turned the park over to a businessman.

"What I am most upset about is that the government has been saying they aren’t privatizing parks, but what else can you call this?" she said.

Walder said she and her family will now boycott St. Ambroise as a sign of protest against privatization — and she’s encouraging others do the same.

Back in April, during his budget speech, Finance Minister Scott Fielding announced a new $20 million endowment fund for provincial parks saying it was "so Manitobans can enjoy them for generations to come, because Manitoba's parks are not for sale."

While Pallister's government has not technically sold the park, he has sold access to it, said Eric Reder, representing the Manitoba chapter of the Wilderness Committee.

"Manitobans don't care what type of weasel words the premier uses. Manitobans don't want to privatize provincial parks... this really, really stinks."

Ron Thiessen, executive director of the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society, said the group is "highly concerned, as provincial parks should be available and open to all Manitobans."

Thiessen said the camping rate at St. Ambroise is now $50 per night versus the rate of $11-$23 in other provincial parks.

Ducharme has set up an RV campground on the north side of the lakeside park and renamed it Surfside Beach Campground.

The Surfside website shows seasonal rates are between $1,500-$2,500 this year, with prices expected to jump as high as $3,750 next year. Thiessen said that’s costly compared to the rate of $1,061 in provincial parks.

"We're very concerned with the precedent this sets — are we going to see more and more of them privatized?" Thiessen asked.

The park was heavily damaged during the 2011 flood. The campground never reopened, but the day-use areas did in 2013.

Last July, the province quietly put out a request for proposal for the development and operation of a seasonal campground in the provincial park, as well as the operation and maintenance of the public beach area.

Under the terms of the lease, which began Jan. 1, no changes or improvements are allowed at the site, other than general repair, unless it is approved by Manitoba Parks.

In a statement, NDP leader Wab Kinew said: "The PCs claimed our parks were not for sale, but it turns out they have effectively privatized the land and raised prices for families.

"They aren't for the premier to sell off; they belong to all of us. He needs to be clear with Manitobans about his plans to privatize more of our parks."

NDP MLA Lisa Naylor called the move "underhanded and dishonest.

"We want to keep parks for the use of all Manitobans and that they are affordable."

Manitoba Liberal Leader Dougald Lamont said parks are a public service and shouldn't be a profit centre.

"Even if you've already paid for a park pass, the PCs are letting a private company set up a toll booth so you have to pay extra to get access to a beach we all own and share," said Lamont. "That's the essence of privatization: letting private companies make extra money charging you for something that's already yours."

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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What the gently caress does Egerton Ryerson have to do with D-Day? The man wasn't even alive for the first world war lmao

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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So Manitobas big, carefully planned vaccine incentive is that you can travel within Canada and return to Manitoba without quarantine and go see Grandma in a PCH if both people are vaccinated. :flaccid:

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Lmao

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Look at this loving clown

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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infernal machines posted:

Any of y'all Manitobans have thoughts on Gord Mackintosh?

He took care of the ministry that oversaw Manitoba CFS and our CFS system is a literal rethinking of residential schools but with hotels so

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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As far as I know there’s no “new” bodies found here but rather people are trying to recognize the fact that 20 years ago the city sold the old residential school land to some rear end in a top hat that paved over everything with a RV park and conveniently everyone forgot about the part of deal where they said they would look for bodies before turning up the land and the plague marking the school was removed.

Brandon University and Sioux Valley First Nation were working together to get the land back and figure out where the school and the graves are but I don’t see any new information being reported on right now.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Coxswain Balls posted:

Thanks to the population of Morden and Winkler being dumbfucks, they've opened up their vaccine supersite to walk-ins for second Moderna doses if it's been 28 days since your first shot. I'm guessing nobody local is going in and they want to get their supply used up. I'm gonna head over there in the next day or two since it sounds like they'll be accepting walk-ins all week.

I'm pretty sure Manitoba's bible belt is the exact reason why the "Manitoba Summer of Re-opening" plan is set at 80% first dose for the final step even though we are at 71% already.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Why does the Green Party even exist?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Wow

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Randalor posted:

Just a shame that's for Wimnipeg, because you know if it was for Manitoba, then the Cons would probably be heads and shoulders above the rest.

Winnipeg contains the majority of seats in the province and those numbers are a shutout for the PCs in Winnipeg

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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InfiniteZero posted:

Yeah Wow that's really interesting if only the next election weren't two years away and voters only give a poo poo about what happened within the last month or maybe if you're extra lucky the past two months. Also surely everybody won't be trying to forget about 2020 and 2021 as hard as possible anyway and Pallister, the only PC that I'd wager 90% of those polled could actually mention by name, definitely won't be around in that election anyway.

Only 14% of women in Winnipeg and 21% of women province-wide said they would vote PC, you understand how abysmal that is right? The only way they could fix their numbers at this point is if Pallister retired, they found a woman that actually would lead the party, torpedoed Goertzen, Friesen and Cullen, killed bill 64, admitted they hosed up the pandemic and health care and then fixed it.

loving with healthcare, education and childcare back-to-back-to-back is a literal knife to the throat.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Gary Filmon got 11 years as Premier and 9 years of majority governments before Manitoba voted him out. The current iteration of the PC party is looking at 7 years total and that's really because the pandemic really exposed how badly they hosed up healthcare in this province.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Vintersorg posted:

It's been a full 24 hours after receiving my 2nd Pfizer dose and I am feeling excellent. Aside from the required arm pain of a needle - no headaches or fever or anything. Now to wait the 2 weeks, get my card and i'm a-ok!

I think you are in the clear, my second dose of Pfizer had me passed out on the floor about six hours after getting jabbed.


I'm confused about Alberta and Saskatchewan completely dropping restrictions so soon, seems ill-advised with whats happening with the Delta Variant in the UK?

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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MB announcing revised restrictions today.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Southern Manitoba is so hosed

https://twitter.com/__m_pereira/status/1407739385592778753?s=20

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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French isn't really that hard to learn

Unless you are Kevin O'Leary

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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nine-gear crow posted:

Trudeau sees this as his one shot to get his majority back so of course he's going to take it because O'Toole is melting before our eyes and is somehow an even worse Conservative leader than Andrew Scheer was. At this point it's only a question of who's gonna eat more of O'Toole's lunch, Trudeau or Singh.

There was an interesting discussion on CanPol twitter the other day about how Scheer actually might have not been that bad. Everyone was focused on the fact that they didn't "win" but reducing the Liberals to minority status after a single majority term while winning the popular vote was a pretty good accomplishment. Harper got 3 cracks to win his majority and Scheer got turfed after 1. Not that I'm complaining, the Conservatives can suck it, but it's interesting to look at it from a different angle.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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MakaVillian posted:

Given the number and severity of Liberal "scandals" before and during the campaign, I think a minority Liberal government was a huge loss that you can pin almost entirely on Scheer.

I think one of the problems is that they tried to throw so much poo poo at Trudeau and most of it was either incredibly complex and hard to fit into an easy catchphrase(SNC-Lavalin) or exposed the Conservatives own hypocrisies(blackface and cancel culture). The other thing is most Liberals were happy with Trudeau in general, if you want a scandal to stick you need people upset at the Liberals already and then the scandal is the thing that puts them over the edge.


nine-gear crow posted:

The irony is this is all Harper’s fault, purging the party of all potential rivals and successors over his term in office left them with a bench full of rudderless goobers with no leadership acumen.

For example, ^^^ Scheer might well have been their best possible remaining choice and he actually did what Harper merely dreamed about : actually hurt Trudeau. God only knows what would have happened in that election if the Tories had real big boy or big girl candidate who knew what they were doing, or if the apparatus was still in place to actually groom Scheer into a worthy successor to Harper, had Harper not, in his monumental hubris, taken it down the hill from 24 Sussex one cold winter night and drowned it in the river.

I think this is the problem in general with the Conservatives is top-down the entire party is just so loving stupid. The platform they came up with was moronic and Alberta-centric that it just didn't win anyone over but the province that was already giving them 98% of their seats. They keep just trying to import everything the Republicans do without any of the actual money and evil genius to back it up.

I just think the argument in general that turfing a leader that just won the popular vote was a bad idea, especially looking where the party is now.

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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https://twitter.com/tonynick/status/1418699804020908032?s=21

Everything is okay

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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This is a full list of changes, what the gently caress Alberta

https://twitter.com/jenleecbc/status/1420502800702844932?s=21

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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The Federal election starts next week probably

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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Noblesse Obliged posted:

I’m just making GBS threads around I don’t know if you’re the same poster. I just find it weird the things that get goons heated

Israel vs Palestine
Tipping
Outdoor cats

The Keg

DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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flakeloaf posted:

Park loving

Also by extension Park Drinking

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DariusLikewise
Oct 4, 2008

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So as of Saturday the only restrictions still in place in Manitoba are

- Museums, Galleries and Movie Theatres at 50%
- Unvaccinated close contacts must isolate for 14 days
- Unvaccinated travellers coming into Manitoba must isolate for 14 days
- Indoor gatherings at 50 people or 50%, whatever is lower, no dance floors
- Indoor religious gatherings at 150 people or 50%, whatever is lower
- Outdoor gatherings 1500 people or 50%, whatever is lower, no dance floors
- Outdoor religious gatherings 1500 people or 50%, whatever is lower
- Don't go to other tables at restaurants
- Spectator capacity at recreational sports at 50%

Mask mandate is over, only strongly recommended now

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