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Shear Modulus posted:maybe andrew cuomo would do it u can save money by pulling those "cuomosexual" shirts out of retirement and slapping a year on the bottom
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Shear Modulus posted:also lol that the 2024 republican primary is so already over that it's pointless talking about it anymore in the thread for it and the more relevant thing is the 2028 dem primary To be fair a lot could change in a couple years and while the party still worships Trump I can still see one blood eyed sociopath taking a swing at The King if they smell blood (like Cruz or DeSantis if this Cuba thing works out in his favor) Also there is going to be a token establishment Jeb! type that will run against him that will get utterly destroyed but will give us a good few weeks of content
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Feldegast42 posted:To be fair a lot could change in a couple years and while the party still worships Trump I can still see one blood eyed sociopath taking a swing at The King if they smell blood (like Cruz or DeSantis if this Cuba thing works out in his favor) I hope they bring back Jeb! as the establishment man.
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bedpan posted:I hope they bring back Jeb! as the establishment man. Nah it's Ron DeSantis now
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bedpan posted:I hope they bring back Jeb! as the establishment man. i thought the Bushes had moved on to promoting George P Bush now.
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Shear Modulus posted:also lol that the 2024 republican primary is so already over that it's pointless talking about it anymore in the thread for it and the more relevant thing is the 2028 dem primary i wouldn't call it over and it's absolutely worth all the not-trumps trying to position themselves cause trump easily drop dead between now and the iowa caucus, or decide he'd rather spend 2023 and 24 grifting full time then run for president but if he actually did declare then it's game over
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The Nastier Nate posted:i wouldn't call it over and it's absolutely worth all the not-trumps trying to position themselves cause trump easily drop dead between now and the iowa caucus, or decide he'd rather spend 2023 and 24 grifting full time then run for president I mean look at what happened to Bobby Kennedy?
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UFOTacoMan posted:I mean look at what happened to Bobby Kennedy? ah the old hillary line
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Hillary 2024 posted:i thought the Bushes had moved on to promoting George P Bush now. George P is a diehard Trumper now
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Feldegast42 posted:George P is a diehard Trumper now it's impossible to have any future in republican politics if you aren't
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Jul 16, 2021 15:45
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Shear Modulus posted:it's impossible to have any future in republican politics if you aren't there is still the wishy-washy "sensible" republicans like dewine! You thought kashich was boring? wait till you get a load of Mike 2024!
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Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:there is still the wishy-washy "sensible" republicans like dewine! Wow! President less-charismatic Kasich!
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Shear Modulus posted:it's impossible to have any future in republican politics if you aren't he killed the Republican Party but it's happening over 10-15 years this is not a good thing
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bleeding kansas posted:bidens not that old and i bet he listens to his doctors. i guess you never know about a stroke or whatever but i dont see kamala running in 2024 right now Since when is 78 years "not that old", Jesus Christ. Just because American politicians are all ancient doesn't mean 78 is suddenly young.
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Yes, and at some point you end up being Feinstein, barely aware of anything. But yeah, he's running again.
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the thing for Trump is he’s gotta stay hot for the next three years and it’s impossible to predict what will happen in that time. like poo poo Biden’s barely been president for six months and Trump’s already starting to have trouble filling stadiums the way he used to. the national mood is going to shift especially with Covid winding down, and who knows by 2023 they could be on to something else. Trump’s only getting more haggard by the day.
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Trump wasn't able to fill stadiums before the election, either. His events were looking pretty sparse.
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Right. and then he lost. I dunno, I’m just wondering at what point do people get bored with him? and I’m not talking about his cult, there will be diehards for the next 50 years, but they’re not enough to carry an election.
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TrixRabbi posted:the thing for Trump is he’s gotta stay hot for the next three years and it’s impossible to predict what will happen in that time. like poo poo Biden’s barely been president for six months and Trump’s already starting to have trouble filling stadiums the way he used to. the national mood is going to shift especially with Covid winding down, and who knows by 2023 they could be on to something else. Trump’s only getting more haggard by the day. Even Kamala could beat the boring rear end trump we have right now.
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TrixRabbi posted:the thing for Trump is he’s gotta stay hot for the next three years and it’s impossible to predict what will happen in that time. like poo poo Biden’s barely been president for six months and Trump’s already starting to have trouble filling stadiums the way he used to. Is this a bad thing for Trump or for Biden? Cause the way Republicans get into higher office is by pointing out the myriad fuckups by Democrats, both real and imagined, and getting enough people to think "huh, I voted these guys into power because they lied about giving me health insurance again, guess I'll vote for the other guys" Give Biden a few more years to fully piss off/demoralize everyone and the race probably gets a lot tighter, whether it's against Trump's propped-up corpse or not.
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tinstaach posted:"huh, I voted these guys into power because they lied about giving me health insurance again, guess I'll vote for the other guys" this is the part that i don't think happens. the number of actually persuadable voters in a biden/trump rematch is going to be vanishingly small the real question is how many voters stay home and i think trump scares more random liberalish people into voting than he persuades chuds to turn out who wouldn't otherwise bidens dessicated corpse against someone else is more interesting, in that i think it's harder to persuade turnout against anyone other than trump
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tinstaach posted:“huh, I voted these guys into power because they lied about giving me health insurance again, guess I'll vote for the other guys" I mean that’s what just happened with Trump and I feel like a lot of people just wanted Not Trump. Biden never promised big poo poo his promise was that government would be boring and in the background again.
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Fame Douglas posted:Trump wasn't able to fill stadiums before the election, either. His events were looking pretty sparse. a significant amount of chuds who would have jumped at the oppurtunity to see trump ramble on for an hour about Oprah or Rosie O Donnell weren’t stupid enough to go to a crowded stadium to see him pre-Covid vaccine
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Azathoth posted:this is the part that i don't think happens. the number of actually persuadable voters in a biden/trump rematch is going to be vanishingly small The red states are taking their electoral fuckery to the next level though.
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StratGoatCom posted:The red states are taking their electoral fuckery to the next level though. since the electoral college is still a thing, please tell me how this affects the presidential election. unless ive missed something, georgia is the only one im aware of that has passed anything major, and if biden is relying on georgia to win, he's pretty well hosed overall
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Azathoth posted:since the electoral college is still a thing, please tell me how this affects the presidential election. unless ive missed something, georgia is the only one im aware of that has passed anything major, and if biden is relying on georgia to win, he's pretty well hosed overall Closing voting locations, moving voting locations to inconvenient places, only a single drop box for millions of voters, restricting voting by mail. There's a reason Texas Republicans were proud of closing the most polling locations in the nation. Making voting harder in specific locations can influence the result significantly.
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Fame Douglas posted:Closing voting locations, moving voting locations to inconvenient places, only a single drop box for millions of voters, restricting voting by mail. There's a reason Texas Republicans were proud of closing the most polling locations in the nation. Helps you win the house, too, since there's lots of blue districts in red states. The presidential outcome isn't the only one they are trying to gently caress with.
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Fame Douglas posted:Closing voting locations, moving voting locations to inconvenient places, only a single drop box for millions of voters, restricting voting by mail. There's a reason Texas Republicans were proud of closing the most polling locations in the nation. Yes, obviously. The point is that Texas passing voter restrictions has zero bearing on whether Biden wins, because he's not carrying Texas and it doesn't matter if he loses by one vote or a million there. All those electoral college votes go to whoever wins. It definitely fucks with the House and possibly the Senate, but again, the only state that Biden won that I'm aware of doing big voter restrictions is Georgia. And again, if Biden needs Georgia to win, he's already lost the upper Midwest, so it doesn't have a lot of bearing on his actual chances of victory.
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Kamala vs. MTG. Narrow electoral college victory for MTG, Kamala wins popular vote. You all know this to be true.
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I guess I'm in the minority here but it's definitely gonna be Biden. Dude's golden years have all been with the most comprehensive healthcare in the world at his fingertips, 80 to that sort of person is like 50 to anybody else. Even if that weren't true, we aren't exactly in the sort of system that is going to tolerate an older person standing aside for a younger one to take power. That's not how gerontocracies work.
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Shear Modulus posted:they'll do something in arizona too. If they can win either of those statewide races, I'll change my tune but I remain skeptical for the time being.
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Epic High Five posted:I guess I'm in the minority here but it's definitely gonna be Biden. Dude's golden years have all been with the most comprehensive healthcare in the world at his fingertips, 80 to that sort of person is like 50 to anybody else. Even if that weren't true, we aren't exactly in the sort of system that is going to tolerate an older person standing aside for a younger one to take power. That's not how gerontocracies work. His brain is already melting though, and he's had vascular issues before. There's a not bad chance he'll just keel over one day.
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StratGoatCom posted:His brain is already melting though, and he's had vascular issues before. There's a not bad chance he'll just keel over one day. I mean even if this is true so what? He isnt gonna keel over with the healthcare he is getting. Do you think america would balk at the prospect of a gibbering ancient monarch and not just quietly accept it because every single system from the ground up is designed to facilitate exactly that?
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Epic High Five posted:I mean even if this is true so what? He isnt gonna keel over with the healthcare he is getting. Do you think america would balk at the prospect of a gibbering ancient monarch and not just quietly accept it because every single system from the ground up is designed to facilitate exactly that? this isn't even a hypothetical because we know exactly what happened during Reagan's second term
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Fame Douglas posted:And it's not like Trump was capable of giving any kind of coherent speech, either. I think a lot about the Chapo take that america is dying and our choice is between what kind of grandpa we'll be in the nursing home. Trump is the one screaming at the void making everyone's life hell, while Biden is the grandpa who just wants to nod off into entropy and doesn't want to make a mess as death grasps them
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