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Pistol_Pete posted:Howard Beckett's turning out to be pretty cool: I kinda wish I could join Unite, just to vote for him but I'm already in the CWU. Can you be in 2 unions at once? there are smaller unions inside Unite itself that get treated as branches for their internal purposes, so there aren't exclusivity clauses. I know people on exec committees that are openly members of three unions (semi-independent branch and the IWW). Don't know about CWU, though. also for gensec elections you can vote as a community member of Unite, which is cheaper.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I doubt they were the ones who sought out the PR company, I think at that point it had become such huge news I have no doubt that a very sympathetic-sounding and manipulative PR guy got their foot in the door and managed to weaponise their denial. From that point on it was just PR guys framing everything as salaciously as possible to get the TV appearances and column mentions rolling. didn't lord freud, accused post mortem by his wife of abuse and paedophilia, deal with the media for them in the first week?
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Jun 6, 2021 12:42
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crispix posted:i think getting good support from a union depends on who you have locally. my union rep was worse than useless. i would have been okay with merely useless, like if she'd just taken notes like she was supposed to but she actually started speaking against me at a meeting we were at because she wanted to ingratiate herself to the managers lol yknow if your workplace has a recognition agreement they have to pay you for taking time off for rep qualifications. (I would say contact steward first and include your membership number, if the officer or legal's opinion is needed the steward should get on that quickly anyway)
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Jun 12, 2021 11:22
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Coyne came in third by branch nominations, unless I'm missing some internal polling he isn't a threat. It's Grahams that lefties who actually do poo poo in Unite are concerned about
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Jun 13, 2021 17:16
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Yeah, I saw it and wasn't sure what to make of it. Either I'm also in and around branches that massively breach all these rules with the explicit approval of our regional and industrial officers or it's incredibly misleading, as branch nominations are a branch exec thing, not a branch member thing. Which means 20 letters would be about right, if not more than expected. I'll check (clearly, I'd forgotten Coyne was actually dead last by some distance, so I might just not have paid attention to the nomination meeting) but I'm not seeing the slightest reason to bring up 6000 members beyond shitstirring. Coyne would also need 25 nominations thrown for it to make any difference, and again, I've not heard a single person give a poo poo about him whatsoever. I'll bookmark this to laugh at my hubris later.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:36
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nope I'm wrong, it's quorum (5 members) and voted by those present. So 20 letters could be defended if the branch widely advertised the nomination meeting online, it's absolutely dodgy as poo poo if they didn't
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Jun 13, 2021 17:47
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i dont think its dumb to think a thing will be over soon when weve never had to deal with it like ever.... we have tho. It wasn't the first, or second, or even third deadly coronavirus outbreak of the last few decades. This was the first that made the Chinese government, nonchalant with the predecessor SARS viruses, publicly poo poo themselves in panic. For normal people (not politicians, nor epidemiologists, nor addicted to doom porn), that doesn't mean much. But it'll go down in history as a point of no return for the idea of european liberal governance.
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Jun 14, 2021 23:32
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NotJustANumber99 posted:ok but im talking about humans who go for a pint mate pal yeah I'm agreeing with you. The politicians across Europe were doing a negligence and the experts just lied to the public until they could work out what to do. I went for a pint with a regional health officer after he got back from Arrowe Park on feb 1st, cleared my calender when I got home. Flukey bullshit, not really much help. But apart from people whose job it is to know, who cares about chinese public health announcements? The only point I'm making is that the "unprecedented" line is an excuse for a global fuckup of lazy liberal governance that's killed nearly 4m people. Not betting your life on whether Dave down the Fondled Sack is up to date on his of pandemic response courses is supposed to be why people bother having governments at all
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Jun 15, 2021 00:15
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 TheRat posted:Too bad. That Turner character has said some extremely questionable poo poo fairly recently. No idea why people like Owen Jones are blind drunk on him. we must unite the left and also people who arent the left and also they have to be in charge
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Jun 18, 2021 12:08
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forkboy84 posted:Leaded petrol isn't enough to explain this much brain damage. Unwelcome guest graham must have been deepthroating old lead water pipes. for decades I clicked the account, he's a fabian Comrade Fakename posted:No one thinks Steve Turner is the second coming of Christ, but he won the most nominations, and he also won the backing of Unite’s internal Left faction. He has plenty of decent left-wing credentials, and was the pretty obvious option for a left unity candidate once Coyne got on the ballot. Thank loving god Beckett has stood down. oh no, not internal democracy! the horror! the horror!
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Jun 18, 2021 12:34
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Comrade Fakename posted:Losing the support of the UK’s biggest union? Very. Unite threatening to bankrupt the labour party is literally why I wanted Beckett. I'll take Turner, but this means continuing the giant void where impossible-to-ignore leftists need to be, as we watch the dominance of socialist sympathies in u35s slip ever further away from us. You spent enough time around momentum to pick up some political instincts, so where are they? We are already on the worst path and Unite having a gensec in the Bob Crow mould was always the best available outcome. is it a prion disorder? forkboy84 posted:Somehow I've fallen into a Hansard reading hole, as you do sometimes glad I'm not the only one apparently laughing at glasgow '35
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Jun 18, 2021 17:14
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TheRat posted:I liked Bob Crow. he was great and we need more people who'll rip on journalists trying to berate them for being good at their jobs. I've got no idea (but many doubts) about whether any Unite candidate would be capable of matching him, but I'd have been delighted with someone just being loudly smug about whatever objectively good things they can accomplish. It's important that everyone hears that they deserve better things in life. Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/PA/status/1405914701104660484?s=19 are we compiling these somewhere
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Jun 18, 2021 17:29
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for more information about the english being mustachio and bespectacled rogues well before anyone else at FIFA please consult the documentary "United Passions"
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Jun 18, 2021 21:50
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Aw man, not Thangam. I remember her seeming great around the election. Thangam Debonnaire was the mp who called the police after someone tweeted "get in the sea" at her
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Jun 24, 2021 21:25
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I've lived for two years next door to an actual loving demon wearing a child suit, it screams and smashes my wall to tantrum at whatever damned hour it pleases, at volumes it shouldn't be able to reach I've never been anything but polite to my neighbours and never mentioned it to them because as an adult I accept this is the tradeoff of living in a society. They don't complain about the nearby pub for the same reason
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Jun 27, 2021 01:39
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if I decided to have a party and my neighbours complained about weekend daytime noise, tho, I'd probably burn down the entire street
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Jun 27, 2021 01:40
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Jedit posted:In my right hand Snickers, in my left hand Mars Idgaf that I'm diving backwards faster than Pickford making a routine save, I appreciated this reference
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Jun 30, 2021 14:36
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NoneMoreNegative posted:lol he's going to be loving pissed at 'trending on' twitter today then jack grealish has possibly the dumbest hair I've ever seen in the england team so it's not even deniable racism. Lad's got gullwing doors opening onto his face.
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Jun 30, 2021 14:45
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Regarde Aduck posted:I mean yeah she’s a good person but she’s never been a good mp. They might actually be opposite positions. lmao what the gently caress are you talking about? she's an immensely popular and active MP in Islington*. She's also a busy campaigner, active in debates, and nobody has a bad word about any of her committee work. You can define "good mp" as a bunch of different things but the only one where Abbott isn't top of the labour party is tabled legislation, which is expected from someone who isn't a practicing lawyer *hackney Spangly A fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Jul 2, 2021 15:44
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forkboy84 posted:And this is when I find out Hackney & Islington are next to each other, such is my staggering ignorance of London geography I'll take that one as a brainfart, I thought she was islington south for some reason even if it's true I definitely didn't mean it
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Jul 2, 2021 15:54
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If gove's actually gay I give it a month before the papers decide that all criticism of him is homophobia. This will be applied retroactively.
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Jul 2, 2021 19:00
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fuctifino posted:The issue with Gove isn't that his alleged affair is/was with a man, it's supposedly a poweful ex spad who now works in Downing Street, and who is now best mates with Carrie. He's yet another powerful unelected person with huge influence at the centre of our government. The last time the papers called gove gay it was Gavin Williamson alleging an affair between him and Cummings, so I'd definitely hold the "with a spad" bit as a very seperate claim at this point
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Jul 2, 2021 19:28
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fuctifino posted:https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/02/slough-goes-bankrupt-after-discovery-of-100m-black-hole-in-budget By being dumb enough to think the government are bluffing about making extreme cuts that are guaranteed to kill and impoverish people, and decide against enacting them after the funding goes Also embezzlement
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Jul 2, 2021 22:20
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My experience of council investment is when the local government buy out beloved local businesses, rebuild them from the budget, carry them for several years, then sell the land to property developers the second you might actually make a profit Looking at you, dreamland
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Jul 2, 2021 22:23
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crispix posted:yeah this is some huge cognitive dissonance the likes of which hasn't been seen for... well, months but that's a long time for the government we have. the hospital trust i work for actually put out a notice today saying they are provided upgraded masks for us and cloth ones can no longer be worn by staff and that everyone needs to keep up social distancing measures because of the rise in cases on the bright side if that's the FFP3s, the data from Addenbrooks looks the same as it would if they completely eradicated at-work transmission so now if you get sick you'll only spread it to friends, family, and potentially anyone that walks within 1m of you for more than 5 seconds, but not colleagues. Back to work!  keep punching joe posted:Don't need to pay disability benefits if all the disabled are dead from Covid *guy breaks 4th wall doing head tap to the camera dot gif* I don't think it's deliberate, not even tories are that evil (and competent), but it is interesting that they got pretty much every last tory voter vaccinated and are now letting schools, teachers, hospitals and anyone under 30 go straight to hell Spangly A fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Jul 5, 2021 19:24
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josh04 posted:They are absolutely that evil but this is even stupider, the scientists had presumably finally gotten through to Hancock that every time he put his hand on the red hot "remove restrictions" button he got burned, so they've replaced him with someone willing to give it another go. There's a faction that literally haven't moved position since the start of the pandemic and they're back for another round. yeah it's the competency that's the issue. If they were that evil to be planning it, we'd know from leaks. And we do, we know that the explicit plan has always been to kill everyone and ignore the consequences. If they were competent they'd know that what they're doing shrinks the workforce at the same time as pissing it off and giving nearly everyone a sick relative, with no economic benefit. Historically, these are the peak conditions for socialism and social democracy. Their protection will run out as people realise that long-term health consequences can't just be ignored. Hancock wasn't any smarter than that, he just fluked a win with the vaccines because he watched a film, then got himself too compromised to threaten SAGE members with the neil fergusson treatment
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Jul 5, 2021 19:56
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fuming that Sterling didn't let tripper have his carlos alberto moment
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Jul 7, 2021 22:42
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Darth Walrus posted:Your pair of trousers is your most fearsome adversary, and putting them on while hungover is potentially lethal. Are you thinking of the tie I really wish I'd bought instead of the more expensive pink flamingo shite I'm going to wear?
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Jul 10, 2021 17:06
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Priti Patel attempted to put refugees in a volcano, destroys subversive art, appears to rip off Mussolini posters, genuinely enjoys watching people dragged screaming to internment camps (which we have), the curriculum in schools is blatant propaganda, racism is only bad because minorities mention it is an official state position, state torture and war crimes are literally unprosecutable, any government agency can legally kill you, the police are open rapists and don't face any consequences until they murder a middle class white woman, and all enemies of the state are ruthlessly destroyed with highly coordinated smear campaigns by a state and intelligence service controlled press. But if you say the f word you're being hyperbolic. Gandhi was right
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Jul 11, 2021 00:55
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Borrovan posted:imo it is every English progressive's responsibility to be twice as loud & insufferable as the nationalists & claim an England victory as a victory for LGBTQIA+ rights & BLM, the right wing handed this to us on a plate by turning their culture war bullshit on footballers & it would just be irresponsible to let that go to waste imo Blm racists taking knee bloody lgbts *Sniffs* it is pure ideology I heard cultural Marxists all wish If you say you're English You'll be arrested sharpish And THROWN IN JAIL Spangly A fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Jul 11, 2021 14:34
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Which just goes to show. Gary lineker actually did it and the papers called it virtue signalling
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Jul 11, 2021 17:44
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ThomasPaine posted:I must admit it would incredibly funny if after all this build-up England got a 2014 World Cup Final style hammering and lost by something ridiculous like 9-0 the final was a really tense 1-0 with germany scoring in the second half of extra time it was the brazil v germany semi where there were four goals in the time it took to get the mid-first-half rounds in, and every newspaper in brazil had an absolutely normal one in response
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Jul 11, 2021 18:28
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Failed Imagineer posted:I was watching BRA-DEU at a bar in Heidelberg, and lol'ing at the absolute state of Brazil until I was shushed by my table of German colleagues because they had scored too many goals and didn't want to look like bad winners (?). WW2 really did a number on their collective psychology nationalism without gloating is a pretty normal thing for a country that isn't an absolute state, I'm pretty sure more people than just Orwell have done bits about how the english only make war songs about massive defeats like Waterloo or Light Brigade, and competent retreats like Dunkirk. You only sing about the overwhelming victories of powerful nation states when you've lost to them yourself (like Come Out ye Black and Tans). I'm sure someone itt will know if "two world wars and one world cup" was a thing before thatcher
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Jul 11, 2021 18:54
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I'd be delighted if everyone expressed their nationalism by smashing the poo poo out of rich people's toys instead of local restaurants
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Jul 11, 2021 19:05
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stev posted:I do remember reading it and wondering if there was some sort of point that I was missing. At least American Psycho beats you over the head with its satire in between the vomit-inducing bits. not entirely relevant but fun: American Psycho is not satire. Bret Easton Ellis is just so ridiculous that a normal, well-adjusted brain decides it's satire. Like Heinlen and Starship Troopers. He kept made a big point of this when he was out campaigning for Trump and a lot of the interviewers didn't know how to deal with it.
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Jul 13, 2021 19:46
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Comrade Fakename posted:I had no idea medical cannabis was legal, they keep that quiet, I guess. it's "Legal", but by christ do you have to jump through some hoops. Sativex was available for MS years ago but NICE took a massive poo poo all over it, then there were the two cases in quick succession where parents of children with cannibinoid-treatable epilepsy were told to gently caress off before the media shamed the home office into remembering it was very definitely allowed. The mother who went away quietly as soon as she got her import liscence was left alone, the northern irish woman, who allegedly had a frank exchange of views with the homesec on the matter, did not go away after getting the prescription, and has been driving 2 hours each way every day for her child's life saving treatment. Spangly A fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 16, 2021 |
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Jul 16, 2021 17:17
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jiggerypokery posted:It's not a sliding scale, that's a super common misconception. I thought the same thing till I had this explained to me by someone who works in pharmacology. Please don't encourage pox parties, that's how you get shingles and postherpetic neuralgia. They don't work, they just ensure everyone has a dormant infection that will wake up whenever you become immunocompromised.
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Jul 17, 2021 13:19
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jiggerypokery posted:I'm only saying that they "work" in the sense that herd immunity "works". Not that they are a good idea. fair enough. jiggerypokery posted:It's not a sliding scale, that's a super common misconception. I thought the same thing till I had this explained to me by someone who works in pharmacology. yknow pox parties aside I'm still not certain this is right. This sounds like you're describing the efficacy of a vaccine that offers sterilising immunity, and no covid vaccine does this. If efficacy rates were a reflection on the ability to halt viral reproduction, we wouldn't have seen death and hospitalisation rates decouple - if the virus can't reproduce then the infection is over after a few hours with flu-like symptoms. Instead we're seeing vulnerable people get sick and recover.
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Jul 17, 2021 13:45
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I thought the pfizer jab being a tiny little monster was pretty well discussed? It doesn't seem to kill anyone but fatigue and headache is really common on the mild end, and I had full flu-like symptoms for two days after both. I'd still get the booster though.
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Private Speech posted:Jose posted this in CSPAM but I didn't see it here and I think it might warrant crossposting. honestly can't remember if I posted this at the time but I know the SW branches are clearing house of all the socialists. Here's one of the few senior people I have nothing but nice things to say about getting the boot last month for his membership.
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