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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Pistol_Pete posted:

I just read this, so now I'm going to make you all read it too:
Ryan Wain is political director at the Tony Blair Institute

Kicking the left MPs out is the best hope of a left wing party starting so I agree with the TBI

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Away from current affairs, what's the rule on going to the doctors for non-vaccine related purposes? Coz for years now I've had a worthless sense of smell & problems breathing through my nose & sinus related headaches but it's mostly liveable with. But I've had a headache in the general area below/behind my right eye for a week now, Sudafed has done nothing to clear it up, & I'm suspicious I have a deviated septum related to dumb teenage poo poo (footballs in the face, a party trick of how far I could squash my nose against my cheek, very dumb) or whatever else is causing the sinus problems. Should I just endure until things get back to normal or is it entirely acceptable to go to the doctors for something which isn't urgent but is irritating?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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ThomasPaine posted:

Iirc very elderly people were getting them done at their gp surgery

I got mine at the GP surgery too and I am only 36

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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The Perfect Element posted:

We have an awkward situation in my band, cos one of the guys never stands his round. On the one hand he is poorer than the rest of us (minimum wage), but on the other hand he chooses to have a phone contract of £140 per month (literally seven times what I'm paying lol) because he always wants the latest phone, and splurges loads of money on gadgets and gaming peripherals all the time.

He therefore only ever has like a few quid in his account, which means he never gets us a drink. Where does this out put him on the bastard scale, and where does it put me for moaning about it?

I think this puts him in the stupid bastard end of the scale

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jedit posted:

As for rounds, I was taught when young to never get involved in them for much the reason Jaeluni set out - if you're not buying the most expensive drink, you're subsidising everyone else's night out. Also unless you know you're having as many rounds as there are people and everyone is in on every round then it isn't fair on someone.

Trying to game theory round buying is weird behaviour. If someone offers to get drinks in you get something you want that isn't particularly expensive unless your pal is Marvin Moneybags. If you want a Macallan 18 then I'm going to tell you straight up to gently caress off & be less of a bellend. Just get a loving pint of whatever thing you like that's on tap, then sure, someone might end up down at the end of the night but it's a difference of 20-30p a drink. If I want something a bit pricier then I'll buy it on my own round because I'm looking to get the best value out of my pals.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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keep punching joe posted:

Alba party now (checks notes)... in favour of the Union

https://twitter.com/thetimesscot/status/1400493855678554112

Fantastic.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

Geldof attacking fishing boats from a yacht really didn't come off the way that he wanted it to. Story of his life I guess.

15 is how many people you have in rugby union, American and Canadian football, and the main Gaelic games of both stick and non-stick varieties.

Pretty sure American football sides only have 11 players on the field at any time (5 linemen, 1 qb, 1 rb, 1 te, 3 wr would be a common offensive lineup)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Just shows how vulnerable we are!
If I were a t*r*st I would focus entirely on the cyber world, nevermind :blastu: objects.

I choose to believe you're referring to being a Tsarist.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Noxville posted:

Maybe Twitter has broken my brain but I can’t remember when I last laughed so much at something as I did this

https://twitter.com/danboeckner/status/1402352951629430788?s=21

Fartlow is a gift that never stops giving.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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stev posted:

Leap year days should be bank holidays. What's the point otherwise?

Leap year days should be everyone-but-banks holidays.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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winegums posted:

I've never met someone who has met the managing directors of BrewDog who had a good thing to say about them.

They posted this recently



I grew up in this remote town. They were on an industrial estate next to the cricket pitch and the beach. It wasn't a "rough part of town", it was here, next to the carpet man who was either a paedophile or employed paedophiles. I doubt many people could've taken you to their door.

Even if it is "the rough part of town" it's Fraserburgh, it's not exactly Castlemilk or Pilton

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

About half of this thread voted Lib Dem in 2010, lol

Always happy that I got my Lib Dem voting out of the way in 2005 when they were lead by someone with actual principles.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Apparently there's been a big fire at the Scottish Crannog Centre. Which was a museum on the banks of Loch Tay which had a bunch of Iron Age finds from the area as well as a replica of the crannogs that people used to live on there. No idea what the damage is to the artifacts but it doesn't sound good.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

I think I've been there, the big thatched roundhouse?

Aye, on stilts in the loch

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Surely just because it's shared occupancy they can't just be there all day?

What about covid rules? Aren't we limited how many people can be in each others houses?

"Gathering limits have been eased. Outdoor gatherings are limited to 30 people and indoor gatherings are limited to 6 people or 2 households (each household can include a support bubble, if eligible)."

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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The Question IRL posted:

Its a shame about Stobart.
After Glasgow Prestwick closed a few years ago, I had to rely on flying Stobart Air to get over to Glasgow.
By the time I'm vaccinated and able to go to Glasgow again, the country will probably be out of business.

What? Prestwick is not shut?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Stormgale posted:

I know the london to prestwick route shut years ago, looks like it mostly takes flights from spain now?

It's apparently got less passengers through it per year than Inverness Airport which is quite funny (coz Inverness is almost exclusively domestic flights. Last I checked the only international destinations were Mallorca & Amsterdam, & Mallorca is seasonal). It's definitely a shadow of what it was once & I'm pretty sure yeah, the only passenger airline that flies from there at the moment is Ryanair. To be fair, even if you're in Ayr it's not that much of a rigmarole to get to Glasgow Airport, just jump on the Glasgow train to Paisley & get the bus.

But it does still exist, barely.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Comrade Fakename posted:

1) The English football team takes the knee for BLM.
2) The right-wing declares the English team Marxist.
3) The English public support the English team.
4) The English public therefore support Marxism.
5) Socialism.

And in one sweeping post you've made me a right-winger

(Haha, kidding. It's okay, I'm a libcom so I can continue to oppose England & Marxism* without being a bigot)

*most Marxists anyway. It's complicated.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Are there any Unite candidates willing to talk about disaffiliating from Labour? Coz if not then Coyne'll get his way even if he doesn't win.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Oh dear me posted:

Beckett has at least talked of cutting off the cash.

So basically he should win but won't & that's a shame.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Alan Sugar is a oval office, but going on GB News to rip the host & his former employers is mildly amusing

https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1404186467027591172?s=20

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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I put on GB News for about 10 seconds and they are desperate to know when England players will stop kneeling?

Important discussion point that definitely is silenced elsewhere

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Rarity posted:

Hey everyone I hear that it's coming home, can anyone confirm/deny?

No

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Rarity posted:

Not sure a Scot is going to be an unbiased source on this one :thunkher:

If you think about it, a Scot took the game to Brazil so really football's home is Scotland.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Rarity posted:

But you just said football isn't coming home so really you're just dissing your own team :thunkher:

When you've been a Scotland fan for the past 23 years you've come accustomed to assuming the worst as a defence mechanism.

https://twitter.com/forkboy84/status/873599834070167553?s=20

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Borrovan posted:

A fun* fact about the Black Death that I like to drop on my students when it's relevant is that it gave us our first two recognisable pieces of employment law, centuries apart:

*not fun

The Statute of Artificers 1562 did pretty much the same thing.

How far* we've come, eh?

*not far

Priti Vacant Patel is salivating at the prospect of sending unemployed to jail

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Presumably Johnson has mumbled something about shouting at journalists being bad over that Newsnight bloke?

Yup, you guessed it.

People on Twitter seem genuinely shocked he's a hypocritical shitebag

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Party Boat posted:

https://twitter.com/UberKaninchen/status/1405278564136591367?s=19

GB News is a secret Chris Morris project. Well done Chris, you had us all going for a bit there

Oh hey, that's Adam Pacetti from the wrestling YouTube channel. That's funny

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Chubby Henparty posted:

Now I've got the Sugababes stuck in my head so they really have made it the mid 2000s again by science or magic

Sugababes were really good for the first couple of albums. Maybe even the third, I don't remember. But tunes like Overload & Freak Like Me & Round Round & Push The Button were jams even at a time that I listened almost exclusively to poo poo like Nile & Emperor & Pig Destroyer

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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keep punching joe posted:

Was it?

Lmao I just saw the swing and assumed it was one of those local elections where weird poo poo just happens.

That was my reaction too: heard nothing about it happening, didn't know the seat, must be a council, but why are people on twitter quite excited? oh OH!

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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This seems like far too many Labour members for the area? Unless I slept on the hotbed of union activity, Great Missenden?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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learnincurve posted:

Every upper middle class area has a working class estate or two hidden out of view - you can’t expect Belinda and Saffron to clean their own houses or work in Tesco’s themselves would you? that would be simply inhumane.

Aye, but it's one thing to vote Labour & another to actually be a dues paying member. That's weirdo politics obsessive behaviour.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Spangly A posted:



we must unite the left and also people who arent the left and also they have to be in charge

Leaded petrol isn't enough to explain this much brain damage. Unwelcome guest graham must have been deepthroating old lead water pipes. for decades

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

That makes me think a lot of him, honestly. I was expecting them to split it. Good on Beckett.

Bare minimum, unions should withhold funding from any political party that doesn't support reversing Thatcherite union laws. Especially the laws that made solidarity strikes illegal. loving bewilders me that's been on the books for 41 years without much challenge.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Somehow I've fallen into a Hansard reading hole, as you do sometimes

"Mr. THORNE It enables them to buy goods, and that makes work for someone else.
Sir H. SAMUEL Yes, but economically, after a period of years, there is nothing to show for it. It is not reproductive.
Mr. MAXTON Except for human beings."

Jimmy Maxton ruled.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Didn't realize Labour lost their deposit at Chesham and Amersham!
I suppose with only 622 votes it was pretty obvious, but my brain hadn't joined the dots.

They could've gotten 3 times vote their Tonty Blair endorsed candidate managed & still lost their deposit by a a couple dozen votes. loving rules.

Maxton continuing to rule

"Mr. GRAHAM WHITE asked the Minister of Labour if his attention has been drawn to the volunteer work scheme in Germany, whereby work has been provided for 200,000 youths on schemes of communal service; and if he will consider introducing a similar scheme into this country?
Sir H. BETTERTON I am aware of the scheme to which the hon. Member refers. The hon. Member will appreciate that a scheme appropriate to one country may not be suitable for another. I am, however, giving the matter careful consideration.
Viscountess ASTOR Is it not better to form a scheme appropriate to this country, instead of having no scheme?
Mr. MAXTON Will the right lion. Gentleman notice the recent changes that have taken place in Germany when he is considering this matter?"

Is there a more Liberal MP thing than going "hmmm, the Germans in early 1933 have got this very good system that we should copy"? 4 days before the Reichstag burned down, and a month after Hitler had been made Chancellor.

Also this gem from 1st March, from a Tory MP in a debate about Germany: "Before the right hon. Gentleman replies, may I ask whether he will bear in mind the necessity of allowing the Germans to manage their own affairs?" Just loving yikes.

Last I will post on this for now, but this speech from Maxton on the Private Members Bill he tried to put through is well worth reading: That this House recognises that the widespread poverty of the people cannot be removed within the framework of the capitalist order of society, which is not progressing towards prosperity but heading for collapse, and condemns the present policy of the Government as foolish trifling with a serious situation.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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https://twitter.com/gilescoren/status/1405905202843164672?s=20

Giles Coren being owned & pulling out the Megan McCain failchild playbook is funny


Quoting myself because I hadn't realised the page had moved on when I made this edit to my last post but it's a tremendous speech on poverty during the Great Depression.

Also this comment from Richard Wallhead, ILP MP for Merthyr, "Let it be remembered that that declaration by Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, and the fact that it could not be disproved, was the death-knell of Free Trade. It killed Free Trade, and it meant the rise of the Labour party. It meant the rise of the working-class party, and what we have to be careful of now is that that rise of the working-class party does not become so enmeshed in the idea of saving the situation for the capitalist section of society, that they will adopt the worn-out shibboleths of the party that preceded them" has plenty relevance for today's Labour Party.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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bump_fn posted:

i don’t care enough about football to know it’s origin because it’s a boring game with worse flopping than the nba but it’s still weird that the uk gets to field four teams

It's literally just "coz that's how it's always been". The first International was between Scotland and England in 1872. The FA was founded in 1863, SFA in 1873, FAW in 1876 & IFA in 1880. Meanwhile the first continental football association wasn't organised until 1889 (Denmark or Netherlands)

There's also a history of non-nation state's competing in international football: Austria & Hungary played each other in a game in 1902, and Bohemia faced the Hungarians the following year.

But probably the biggest reason is the people who keep the rules of the game up to date is called the International Football Association Board and was formed in 1886 by the 4 home nation FAs. Hilariously even today it's made up of 8 people, 1 each from Scotland, England, Wales & NI and 4 from the rest of FIFA.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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ItohRespectArmy posted:

if you think the 4 home nations being in are obscene you'll lose your mind when you find out about gibraltar and bermuda having teams.

The real obscenity is that Isle of Man doesn't have a UEFA membership

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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blues thief posted:

https://twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1406004486313844745

The only joy to get out of politics these days is watching increasingly uncomfortable and unsure centrist Labour MPs and their supporters on the news talking about how, actually, losing is winning so I'm excited for the upcoming content.

If Labour lose the seat by fewer votes than Gorgeous gets I will die laughing

Galloway is a horrendous chancer of a man who has firmly huffed his own farts to the point of asphyxiation and the death of his brain but gently caress it, Labour are wastemen

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