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Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007



Half of this book is a very sweet and very erotic love story between two men that delighted me. I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned yet that a little more than halfway through, this book becomes the most misogynistic, fascist piece of science fiction I've ever read.

I have no real problems with the book's first half, which deftly uses the metaphor of the forbidden relations between a human and an android to leave its characters free of guilt about the eroticism of male bodies. At its best, it dwells more on the effortless joy and beauty of two people coming to desire each other, and it does it well, with a mild science fiction background and some slight romance-novel cheesiness. Nader's writing is fairly fanciful in tone, perhaps a touch overwrought at times, but this is a book about strong emotions and powerful men, so it seems fair. It's truly erotic at times, often lighthearted but never vapid, and has a delightful touch of the surreal to it- you feel that the Cabin and Chrome and Vortex's relationship is so dreamlike, it's bound to end.
And end it does, in the worst possible way. I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned yet that a little more than halfway through, this book becomes the most misogynistic, fascist piece of science fiction I've ever read short of Spinrad's masterful satire "The Iron Dream", and this book isn't satirical. My enjoyment of this book turned to disgust within the space of a single page when the curtain was pulled up on the love story of Chrome and Vortex, and Nader gave vent to a bit of exposition worthy of a Tom Metzger: The tyrannical society that rules the Earth came about through government-enforced equality. In particular, women's equality, and this led to the lowering of standards and improper uncontrolled breeding, creating a "Garbage World" of degenerates. Rond H'Lokk talks about how S.O.R.A.'s encouragement of women to struggle for the place of men leads only the "lower brain levels" to mate. "First came the S.O.R.A.'s lowering of all standards, its insistence that all were equal in everything. Next, it's vast propaganda campaign urging indiscriminate mating..."
The S.O.R.A. is, of course, a technocratic bureaucracy seemingly staffed mostly by spiritually-hideous females bent on destroying the bond between pure, noble, chiseled, bronzed men. All that's lacking is an explicit shot at miscegenation, but even that is implied by Jamison's talk of "indiscriminate mating".
Lucky for the suffering citizens of planet ZOG, the "avenging angels" are here to stand between them and all-powerful future-commies. The Warriors are like a Nazi brotherhood of truth-speaking swordwielding beefcakes, their society seems to be sort of like an Evolan "neo-traditionalist" brotherhood or a Germanic sworn warrior guard. This sort of misogynistic "warrior brothers" ethos is something that echoes through the fascist worldview as well as the underworld of the old-school gay imagination: finally, a world without women, where petty female minds can be swept aside so that men can get to the business of GLORY.
With his conservative-paranoid setting architecture fully in view, I found the rest of Nader's book really quite impossible to enjoy. Perhaps it's just me, since I have strong political opposition to it, but I found the rest of the book to be flat, dull, and totally tiresome.

Really disappointing. The book gets two stars only for its beautiful first half.

Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jul 10, 2021

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Oh Don Piano
Nov 4, 2009
My Grievances With The Browser

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

I'm literally shaking.

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

Lol if you aren't a hipster who uses opera.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
just more loving ways for my wife to see what porn i've been watching. thanks technology, you're so goddamn convenient

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



kntfkr posted:

just more loving ways for my wife to see what porn i've been watching. thanks technology, you're so goddamn convenient

Maybe chrome will detect my desperate searches for something that isn't incest and come to my rescue.

Duck and Cover
Apr 6, 2007

William Henry Hairytaint posted:

Maybe chrome will detect my desperate searches for something that isn't incest and come to my rescue.

Wow way to be a punk fighting against the establishment.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



I might use Chrome more if it didn’t restrict the number of tabs I can have open per window.

I don’t even think there’s an add-on for that.

Firefox lets me have as many open tabs as I want.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

So long gay browser

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



How many tabs do you typically have open? I had no idea chrome had a limit.

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs
Firefox all day and twice on Sunday

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


chrome is the best color

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



William Henry Hairytaint posted:

How many tabs do you typically have open? I had no idea chrome had a limit.

several hundred

I don’t look at them all, but I like having the option to

Empty Sandwich
Apr 22, 2008

goatse mugs

Big Beef City posted:

So long gay browser

lol

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

Saalkin posted:

Lol if you aren't a hipster who uses opera.

opera died a long time ago and the corpse was sold to some chinese company

real hipsters use vivaldi

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



I. M. Gei posted:

several hundred

You're loving with me.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Big Beef City posted:

So long gay browser

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

I. M. Gei posted:

I might use Chrome more if it didn’t restrict the number of tabs I can have open per window.

I don’t even think there’s an add-on for that.

Firefox lets me have as many open tabs as I want.

id close all your tabs and erase your history so you couldnt just reopen them, then uninstall your browser, and i dont care if i get fired for workplace harassment, gently caress you.

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005




this is me irl

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



William Henry Hairytaint posted:

You're loving with me.

look man, you click on a porn vid, you see other ones you might wanna watch in the Recommended section, you open them in new tabs, poo poo adds up

yeah you’re not gonna watch em all, but you still wanna be able to flip to any one of them at a second’s notice

Full Metal Jackass
Jan 22, 2001

Rabid bats are welcome in my home
What is this exactly? It appears it's simply asking me to search my tabs?

Saalkin
Jun 29, 2008

SO DEMANDING posted:

opera died a long time ago and the corpse was sold to some chinese company

real hipsters use vivaldi

poo poo I'm a poser.

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

kntfkr posted:

just more loving ways for my wife to see what porn i've been watching. thanks technology, you're so goddamn convenient

The only porn you should be watching is of your wife!!!

Icochet
Mar 18, 2008

I have a very small TV. Don't make fun of it! Please don't shame it like that~

Grimey Drawer
Our grandchildren will laugh when they find out we once lived in a time without that little button

hot cocoa on the couch
Dec 8, 2009

CAN YOU BELIEVE THEY CHANGED FACEBOOK AGAIN?! I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING!!!!! SIGN THIS PETITION TO MAKE THEM CHANGE IT BACK OR WE'LL ALL DELETE OUR ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



I. M. Gei posted:

look man, you click on a porn vid, you see other ones you might wanna watch in the Recommended section, you open them in new tabs, poo poo adds up

yeah you’re not gonna watch em all, but you still wanna be able to flip to any one of them at a second’s notice

:hmmyes:

Linux Pirate
Apr 21, 2012


:chome:

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

I use safari because Tim Apple always makes the best products

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
Tim "The Tool Man" Apple

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
Google Crom

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon
computers are loving stupid and lamo if you use one

Stevie Lee
Oct 8, 2007

SO DEMANDING posted:

opera died a long time ago and the corpse was sold to some chinese company

real hipsters use vivaldi

this is accurate, vivaldi is great and i tell everyone i can to switch. you can even install your favorite chrome extensions directly from the chrome web store (and they may or may not work)!

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

I won't be switching browsers

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
How many people unironically use microsoft edge in 2021

Lil Swamp Booger Baby
Aug 1, 1981

EorayMel posted:

How many people unironically use microsoft edge in 2021

I do all my browsing by emulating the Android OS and using the Samsung Internet Browser so I can experience proper web browsing aspect ratio.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

EorayMel posted:

How many people unironically use microsoft edge in 2021

all of them except you, you friggin nerd

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006

If you count them all, this sentence has exactly seventy-two characters.
I never noticed that button, but now that I do I really like it

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


low key sex master posted:

The only porn you should be watching is of your wife!!!

I'm sure his wife hasn't been in that many porn titles.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
logging into AOL through a hacked game boy advance is the only way to surf the web

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mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006

If you count them all, this sentence has exactly seventy-two characters.

mom and dad fight a lot posted:

I never noticed that button, but now that I do I really like it

I just pushed it again. It's really nice.

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