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LifeSunDeath posted:Tell me the use cases, I've been waiting to hear the use cases all drat day. any environment that's exceptionally dirty, like a warehouse with a diesel forklift or a factory with dust from their industrial process, have extremely serious issues with fans - they're going to get clogged pretty loving fast, so maintenance is a nightmare and/or leads to downtime. fanless cases also get dirty of course but it's drastically slower and as such there is a use case.
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I think pretty much everyone else covered it. And yes fabless PSUs and PSUs that only the fan under extreme load are a thing. Again, this is a very niche product and they shouldn’t be marketing to consumers. The only consumer level thing I can think of that this would help with is something like a HTPC, but those are dead now.
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Rexxed posted:I usually see silent pcs for things like recording studios. Even an in home one is going to have computers involved these days and big air coolers with no fans on a 65 watt CPU can usually be run fanless or with just one 200mm system fan. Back in the day there were some power supply shrouds to that would attach to the outside back of the PSU and have baffles to cut down the fan noise while letting air through. ok fair enough
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Welp, took a gamble on some cheap Corsair Vengeance RGB RAM I found on Ebay to finish out my build, and thank god I tested it because I was totally worried about it not fitting: Sits perfectly, now I'm done messing with this thing forever.
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Nothus posted:also lol at telling people that your CPU thermally throttling under load conditions is fine and normal I think every single Mac laptop does this.
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Chill la Chill posted:You say you’re done messing with the build, but how is the cable management Absolutely terrible and crammed into the hole
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So hypothetically, if you had one of the 3080 AIBs with a built in water block, is it worth building a custom loop just for the GPU? I don’t think I’ve seen such setups where only the GPU is in a custom loop - seems like with the fixed cost of everything else, you might as well get a block for the CPU as well. Do people actually make water loops just for the GPU or CPU?change my name posted:Absolutely terrible and crammed into the hole 
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Mu Zeta posted:I've only built two PCs but I can already say that picking out the parts and building the PC is more fun than actually using it. Yeah I used to love kitting out $10K desktops from Alienware just to see what could be done at the consumer level. Better than SimCity!
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Mu Zeta posted:I've only built two PCs but I can already say that picking out the parts and building the PC is more fun than actually using it. I have about a hundred saved builds on PCPartpicker, at least I'm just wasting time and not more money.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:something like a HTPC, but those are dead now. I was just looking into those a little lately, interesting to hear they came and went. I myself still just use my desktop PC as my main media thing, hooked up to my TV with hdmi. But for alternatives I like the idea of a home theater PC, doesn't need to be tiny but that is a fun thought. Like a raspberry pi that has enough power to run Windows10 or something. Some of my friends have plex servers, but for me I mainly just like having stuff right off my computer. Plus I do a lot of web browsing on my TV.
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I loving love my Nvidia Shield Pro. It has filled the hole I thought could only be filled by an HTPC. No optical drive for Blurays, but even those are going out of style.
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I've done media center pcs way back in the day, little media boxes, all that stuff. And I don't get it. Nothings ever been better than a very long HDMI cable.
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I can say for me personally, it doesn't need to be small, but I like the idea of a good home theater PC as an alternative to buying a new gaming ready expensive rig. When really, all I want is smooth video playback and web browsing. Plus my TV is my main monitor lately anyway. And android is cool and all, I've got the phone and tablet going there, I just need Windows to live on. I don't want it all in one android basket, plus it seems like Windows is always better for playing back the latest greatest huge new video files. If we drop a single frame from the 30gb Return of the Jedi mkv, that is a tragedy. I want them to make the Sony WindowsBox for 500 dollars, I could put it next to my other stations and the Dreamcast. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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Heavy Metal posted:I want them to make the Sony WindowsBox for 500 dollars, I could put it next to my other stations and the Dreamcast. https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/node/node-202/Black/
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I forgot to mention, well I mentioned a page or two back, I'm not a builder. I'm a wayward computer sailor just looking for a port here. But it's interesting to hear about all that stuff. Plus my friends are in consideration for building me another PC sometime, but I might get a prebuild for various reasons. So I'm just going computer crazy after a few days of looking at all sorts of numbers and stats and deals and stuff online.
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VelociBacon posted:I think every single Mac laptop does this. Current ones not so much, I think the current Macbook Pro won’t even spin up its fans until it’s approaching the thermal limit and even then loses basically nothing. The current air does though since it doesn’t have a fan at all.
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MonkeyFit posted:I loving love my Nvidia Shield Pro. It has filled the hole I thought could only be filled by an HTPC. No optical drive for Blurays, but even those are going out of style. Can you use the desktop with those? When I have a bit of money I'm thinking of getting hold of one so I can play some Death Stranding on the big telly in the living room, but being able to use the desktop as well would be very useful too. Sometimes you wanna have multiple windows/browsers/whatever open at once, and neither the smart tv nor the roku really scratch that itch at the moment.
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I'm going to be honest, I have not really tested that. A quick search shows it looks like it involves some work arounds. But I believe Windows should be able to cast to the shield, or even your smart TV. Though your input devices need to be plugged into the computer.
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MonkeyFit posted:I'm going to be honest, I have not really tested that. A quick search shows it looks like it involves some work arounds. But I believe Windows should be able to cast to the shield, or even your smart TV. Though your input devices need to be plugged into the computer. Which kinda makes the whole thing nonviable anyway, since the whole point is that the pc is far away from the TV anyway  I guess my last question is how does the Shield work with gamepad input? Do you plug the gamepad into it when you're playing games from your pc? If so, I suppose in principle the Shield can send back KB+M input as easily as gamepad inputs...
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If using game stream for specific games, the shield can use inputs from USB or Bluetooth and will send them back to the PC. That includes USB wireless dongles. So you could use one of the new Xbox controllers that has Bluetooth built in, or a keyboard and mouse.
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Isn’t the Shield basically a more powerful Steam Link that can run some games natively?
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Basically. And it runs Android TV so it's got access to a lot of apps already.
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MonkeyFit posted:If using game stream for specific games, the shield can use inputs from USB or Bluetooth and will send them back to the PC. That includes USB wireless dongles. So you could use one of the new Xbox controllers that has Bluetooth built in, or a keyboard and mouse. Aight, that's cool! Cheers for the info bud
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If that Noctua passive cooler was $50-60, it would be awesome for office PCs with integrated graphics (assuming you're not all on macs anyways)
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Heavy Metal posted:I forgot to mention, well I mentioned a page or two back, I'm not a builder. I'm a wayward computer sailor just looking for a port here. But it's interesting to hear about all that stuff. Plus my friends are in consideration for building me another PC sometime, but I might get a prebuild for various reasons. So I'm just going computer crazy after a few days of looking at all sorts of numbers and stats and deals and stuff online. Have you looked at intel NUCs?
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Have you looked at intel NUCs? Deez NUCs?
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Does anyone have any suggestions for a computer desk that is about 55"-60" in length and >25" in width? Most desks in this size are a few inches too small in width for my liking. I'm using a LG CX48 as my primary monitor so I need the extra width. I've narrowed my search down to this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086W41GX5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A32G6KYZG6O024&th=1), but I wanted to see if any other goons who have better suggestions. Size is more important to me than any fancy features. Mods: My bad if this should be in a different megathread - I didn't see specific thread for computer/office desks.
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mA posted:Does anyone have any suggestions for a computer desk that is about 55"-60" in length and >25" in width? Most desks in this size are a few inches too small in width for my liking. I'm using a LG CX48 as my primary monitor so I need the extra width. I've narrowed my search down to this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086W41GX5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A32G6KYZG6O024&th=1), but I wanted to see if any other goons who have better suggestions. Size is more important to me than any fancy features. I use an IKEA Gerton tabletop with 4 cheap legs and it's been fantastic for my desk. They have a ton of different sizes, tabletop and leg options. I tried looking it up to link you and I don't know if they still make it though but another would work just as well.
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mA posted:Does anyone have any suggestions for a computer desk that is about 55"-60" in length and >25" in width? Most desks in this size are a few inches too small in width for my liking. I'm using a LG CX48 as my primary monitor so I need the extra width. I've narrowed my search down to this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B086W41GX5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A32G6KYZG6O024&th=1), but I wanted to see if any other goons who have better suggestions. Size is more important to me than any fancy features. There is a thread! I should add it to the OP. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2920891 That being said, countertop desks like above are popular. You can also get a monitor arm to give yourself space on the desk.
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LifeSunDeath posted:Deez NUCs? That reminds me, Snoop Dogg is still doing good stuff! Bootsy Collins has a good new single featuring Snoop. I wonder what the Doggfather is doing tech wise. I'm sure he has some high end stuff. Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Have you looked at intel NUCs? I've been curious about those, it looks like a lot are discontinued, and ones that work well as a Windows PC might be on the pricier side etc. Cool idea though.
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Heavy Metal posted:That reminds me, Snoop Dogg is still doing good stuff! Bootsy Collins has a good new single featuring Snoop. I wonder what the Doggfather is doing tech wise. I'm sure he has some high end stuff. https://youtu.be/cyG2Ys41pdE
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Just to reiterate from a post I've made... JFC, in the previous thread back in 2019, how time flies... electronic components in Israel are ludicrously expensive, even by comparison with the US \ Canada. So I'm trying to figure what urgent upgrades I should purchase outside Israel (was hoping Germany in 2019, which didn't really work out - couldn't get the more affordable graphic cards etc on a whim, without preordering way in advance - so now optimistically assuming Ukraine has slightly more decent prices [East Europe and all that]). Current setup: i4590 3.3ghz, 4 cores. 16 gb installed memory Arctic Freezer Xtreme Rev 2 Motherboard: Asus H97 Plus LGA 1150 ddr 1600 is what I was recommended back when I assembled this computer. Checking system information, all I get is "All series". Memory: Kingston Hyperx Fury 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHZ PC3-12800 Graphic Card: GTX 960 SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB SCSI Windows 7 256 giga SSD as my system drive, filled to the brim that I literally don't have a way to install windows 10 if I wanted to. Power supply: Antec 550W 80+ VP550P Case: Sharkoon VG4. The thread recommended I pick up a GTX 1660 TI as a replacement back in 2019 - is that still the default cost-conscious option? The steam thread recommended a Ryzen card? I'm guessing a 2 terabyte SSD would be a decent compromise, no need to go out of my way for a 4 TB? Also, there are SATA and NVME SSD drives, apparently? Xander77 fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 17, 2021 |
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Xander77 posted:The thread recommended I pick up a GTX 1660 TI as a replacement back in 2019 - is that still the default cost-conscious option? You might as well keep your card for the time being. Xander77 posted:I'm guessing a 2 terabyte SSD would be a decent compromise, no need to go out of my way for a 4 TB? Also, there are SATA and NVME SSD drives, apparently? e:
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This is a weird question...have any of you had issues with M.2 drives having problems with certain games, or corrupting installs? It happened to me but it's probably and edge case since it was a compressed pirated game, but the same thing installed fine on my old system without M.2 drives. I also had issue with a legit game I bought but it's early access so I'm not surprised...same game ran fine on old system and just won't load on new one. Thankfully everything else I've installed has worked just fine. I have this theory in my mind like M.2 works too fast and the programing isn't happy about it and errors out the process while trying to load it. I heard something similar happened when the consoles were moving to SSDs and they had to work out how to account for the timing of the data and it caused issues with some games.
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Vir posted:The cost-concious option is to hit some kind of raffle to hope you get a GPU for near MSRP. Basically any GPU you can get your hands on - ask to buy a 1650 or RX 580 from a friend or whatever. Or buy a CPU with integrated graphics to tide you over, like an Intel i5-11400 or an AMD Ryzen PRO 4650G off AliExpress. quote:What are you going to use it for? SATA SSD are slower, generally, and the cost difference might not be worth it these day. Ostensibly, this is a gaming PC, but I barely had time to play twenty games over the past year (and half of them were literally Diner Dash clones). I re-prioritized a slight The most taxing games that I might play soon - Mankind Divided, rear end Creed Origins, Yakuza Kiwami. The highlights of
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LifeSunDeath posted:This is a weird question...have any of you had issues with M.2 drives having problems with certain games, or corrupting installs? It happened to me but it's probably and edge case since it was a compressed pirated game, but the same thing installed fine on my old system without M.2 drives. I also had issue with a legit game I bought but it's early access so I'm not surprised...same game ran fine on old system and just won't load on new one. Thankfully everything else I've installed has worked just fine. I initially had an issue when I replaced the SATA SSD cache drive in my NAS with an NVMe drive where it would corrupt once a week, turns out it was actually bad RAM causing the problem. Didn't Linus have a video not that long ago where he created a storage server where the drives were so fast that the CPU actually couldn't keep up with the timings? Fake edit: found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWjOh0Ph8uM
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