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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So I rebought mostly f the Far Cry Titles for the Series X since a bunch of them got an FPS boost and they were on sale (so basically got 3,4,5, New Dawn and Primal (with Caveman Adam Jensen and it’s also a really neat concept).

It’s funny Vaas owns, but I find 3 the hardest to play, it’s still good, but it’s that scenario where newer gameplay and UX improvements are harder to ignore. That said the hilarious item description fluff and guidebooks rule and I think it actually encourages me to search enemies more.

Oddly I’m always kind of partial to 4, because I like the region and goddamn Pagan Min owns and crafting is actually enjoyable (also the Elephant Gun). Truthfully that’s also because I haven’t played as much as the other ones. But now I’m just switching between them all for maximum incoherent narrative. Far Cry 5 is fun like I remember, but I never got that far so I figure I’ll spend today on Hope County.

One thing though...Jesus let us skip cutscenes, I mean even MGS and Hideo got on that bus a long time ago.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Jun 14, 2021

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Also here’s a 90 minute retrospective on FC5.

https://youtu.be/QKuxJ0ZQZmk

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I have to say the more I play FC5 I just love it, it’s one of those the core mechanics are so nicely polished (bugs…not so much) games like MGSV, that I’m willing to ignore certain deficits. I’ll also add I do love the post liberate an outpost animation. Shame they went with the ending they did, but eh.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

MarcusSA posted:

Ok this is the first far cry thread I could find so I gotta ask, why does the gun play seem so anemic?

I just started FC5 and the guns just don’t feel like they have any weight to them. I guess that’s the best way to explain it.

The game seems ok so far but I’m just not feeling the gun play. Does it get better?

I only paid like $5 for the game with FC3 so it’s not a huge loss if I bounce out.

Also the game should be running at 60 FPS right? It kinda doesn’t feel like it…

Well besides sniper rifles (which suck) I haven’t had too many issues. Full auto on an AR generally works quite nicely and also when you acquire things like the M14 or shotguns…especially with Incendiary rounds for the latter.

I will say that the C4 and dynamite explosions are amazing.

It should be 60 FPS on a Xbox with FPS boost checked. The loading now is like 5 seconds and the quote loading screen barely even displays before getting back to the game.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Sir Sidney Poitier posted:

I restarted 5 and gave up on it when I got sick of sitting through unskippable cutscenes. I'd love to know their justification of it.

Luckily as time goes on there is a lot of skippable stuff, even in the bigger cutscenes, but regardless yeah I’d love to know why they all weren’t skippable.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Simone Magus posted:

4 and 5 are really good video games

i hope 6 doesn't suck

I have to say I really do love both of them and after beating 5, even with New Dawn ( which I like), I just wish 5 had a no bullshit ending, even if non canon.

Also am I the only one whose like big deal Joseph predicted it, it seems like he just got lucky based on the world. lol

I also loved the characters in n 5 and especially banter between different members, which was often unique and quote humorous.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Simone Magus posted:

Yeah the sidekicks in 5 were awesome. Nick Rye and Grace were my powerful redneck friends

When I started playing 5, without being spoiled, I thought "you know, I bet this cult has nukes". Haha

The funniest thing was I recall some review saying they were all bland and I'm like sir you have no met Hurk Jr and his mom or his mom and Nick combined. I'm so happy they keep Hurk and Sharky alive.

See even if they did unless there plan was to trigger something at a US base, I just think the broken clock rule applies, but being a game yeah that or bliss warheads...which honestly I think would have been cool too.

And even as I play New Dawn and enjoy it, I just hate the endings on 5, even if it makes narrative sense. I'm just happy I knew about it ahead of time.

Also next Fallout game needs the New Dawn Color palette.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Simone Magus posted:

I actually only got a few hours into New Dawn, I had borrowed it off a mate, I think I'll pick it up later since used copies are like 15 at gamestop.

Also just realized I didn't actually finish the Mars DLC and didn't do the zombie one at all despite owning the season pass. I recall the guns being pretty interesting in Mars

You know I forgot they even existed, so I might as well grab them. Ironically it’s cheaper to rebuy a gold edition then a separate season pass now because of an Ubisoft sale.

Mycroft Holmes posted:

I honestly don't like some of what I've seen of the weapon upgrades. What they did to that poor SKS in the trailer was a war crime.

That seems to be the general lot in life for SKSs.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:

Sniper rifles do exactly what you expect them to do, shoot someone in the head with them and they die. Not seeing the problem. It was pretty easy to snipe almost everyone in a base then sneak up and shoot the one or two remaining guys in the back of the head with a pistol or whatever. The first AR you can use is quite bad I thought maybe that's what they were talking about. I don't think I was a fan of the M14 either.

M14 was very meh, along with the 45-70. I just expected more, something just feels off, then again I'm now all about that Saw launcher life. In the end of just felt it was harder to get decent control, but that might just be me. luckily there are so many guns it’s not really a big deal.

Iacen posted:

I wonder if they are kinda retconning 5. 6 (or at least some of the related materials) seems to reference Joseph Seed, as well as the other villains, meaning this has to take place afterwards.

Or maybe the nuclear war was just leveling Montana...

Nah, in the Alcatraz expedition you can clearly see the nuked skyline of San Francisco. But I really dislike how Seed is kind of redeemed a little in New Dawn. I still think he's no different then Heavens Gate, he just got lucky where the ball landed on the roulette table, so to speak.

Edit: Now there is a War Journal Empty Quiver document you can find in the government wreck expedition.

wiki posted:

Empty Quiver refers to the seizure, theft, or loss of a functioning nuclear weapon.

So you know,it's possible Seed did kick everything off.

J-Spot posted:

Apparently only animal companions will be available in 6.

gently caress I wanted some Hurk...I mean his ancestor is in Primial. Also Lost on Mars is kind of fun, but Jesus I love the banter between Nick and Hurk, so it ups the enjoyment factor significantly. Also I'd love companion banter.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 23, 2021

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

MarcusSA posted:

I thought the Mars one was good?

Honestly it's okay so far, but having the main leads be Nick and Hurk :discourse:

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

toiletbrush posted:

I wanted to like Farcry 5 but 30 minutes of that loving one minute loop of cultist music that you can't turn off and I couldn't handle it any longer

You mean the radio station?

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I’m about to beat Far Cry 5 again…and I’m thinking of doing another NG+. I think part of it is the opening hours of the game are just amazing. The rest is good, but that truly back against the wall when you exit Dutch’s bunker and start your first attacks, is fantastic.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 1, 2021

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rabbit Hill posted:

Oh yeah, I started playing New Dawn this weekend and it's great so far. Pastor Jerome as a companion is a true delight. :3:


But back to Far Cry 5 for a moment... I finished it on Friday and chose the "resist" ending.

Okay, forgetting for a moment how skin-crawling it was to be playing as a female deputy and ending up trapped in a bunker alone with Joseph for years to come***, WTF was up with half of your friends being high on Bliss and turning against you? At least the nuclear attack was foreshadowed by the radio announcements -- was there a clue that your friends were in danger of being rounded up and drugged that I missed? That whole fight was irritating because it didn't make any sense to me why this was happening and it just felt stupid.

***And this is supposed to be the "good" ending?? At least Joseph doesn't say any creepy poo poo about wanting to repopulate the earth, I guess. :confuoot:


First I want to apologize for never replying to your extremely well thought out posts, especially as it was kind of the discussion I was hoping to kick off. Second, as much as I enjoyed New Dawn, the immediate events that lead to New Dawn…god I hate that. I mean I get it, but man I kind of pissed. Gameplay is awesome and man some of those companions are goddamn hilarious and make me want to use the feature more, to mix and match people for different dialogue, if nothing else.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

dracula vladdy AF posted:

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I think part of the problem is that the game is actually pretty optimistic in a lot of respects, with the deputy going around Montana pushing back against hateful and reactionary forces to try and restore peace and a sense of community. But then here comes this downer ending, effectively saying "well I guess Seed wasn't ALL WRONG, huh??" and it's just so stupid.

This is actually very true, that feeling you get when you liberate an area and people start arriving to fix it owns. Honestly I love the whole vibe of the game in terms of optimism and community.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mordja posted:

Ugh, enemies have lifebars now?

They did in New Dawn and I think you can turn it off from being seen.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

apparently it's not as bad as new dawn but yeah it's dumb and you'd think they would have learned their lesson after ghost recon

Please keep that evil away from my beautiful Far Cry Team.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

That whole thing was extremely overblown in ghost recon, you could always headshot dudes, the levelling system was basically pointless.

They just feel so goddamn spongey vs in Wildlands.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Phetz posted:

The Far Cry 5 story gets a ton of criticism, I can't remember if I've seen anybody praise it at all outside of maybe the first couple days post-release. What a loving mess.

Honestly I think it does a good job with community and people working to protect themselves. I truly think with at least an actual good ending, people wouldn’t have been annoyed. I do enjoy some of the characters and humor and just that feeling of The West.

Edit: ^okay yeah that part is done way too many times with the 9 forced captures.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So I’m wondering as someone who loves far cry five and by and large enjoyed new dawn, will I more then likely enjoy 6? I’ve heard the stuff about no tech trees anymore and certain other streamlining, but honestly if it plays like 5 and New Dawn, I’m cool. I like 4 too, but 5/ND have some nice QoL improvements that 4 lacks.

Also is the ending less goddamn loving awful then 5?

Edit: Holy poo poo I didn’t even know Ubisoft plus was an option.

Apparently PC only, but it also supports two different cloud options so that’s cool.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Thanks everyone for the Ubisoft + suggestion. Just saved a bunch of money and I can play Far Cry 6.

I’m also have to have more of the same with perhaps some QoL improvements. I can’t wait to watch Giancarlo do evil poo poo!

One of the funnier things about the Seeds (at least iirc from that long form analysis video) is that they’re probably closer to Marxists or Socialists in a bunch of ways then Trumpers. I just wish the game had gone with them being crazy and not somehow right. I know it’s dumb, but goddamn I wish there was an ending where you save the day and that’s it. Even if it would have been non canonical.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Oct 7, 2021

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Skeezy posted:

Ubisoft should just let the player side with the villain for once in these games. In 4 I didn’t give a poo poo about the Golden Path but you can’t do anything with Pagan Min really.

The worst part is the secret ending teases you and Min having a fun time. :(

Regardless I will say the sound mix on this game is incredible.

Also for whatever issues Ubi has, I truly appreciate their commitment to providing such a huge amount of accessibility options.

Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 7, 2021

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fame Douglas posted:

Seriously, shooting some guns with Min? Who wouldn't prefer that ending to siding with the weird religious fanatics.

:same:

Also I wanted to try the crab Rangoon.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Just want to say thank you again to everyone for turning me on the Ubisoft connect. The fact that it automatically supports stadia and Luna and you don’t even need the premium accounts to play it on is fantastic.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Fame Douglas posted:

FidelityFX Super Resolution (DLSS) resets to "Off" every time I reload the game. Pretty annoying.

The US was in some kind of conflict, with tensions ratcheting up more and more, and got nuked. That's how I understood it. The cult just happened to be right about the end of the world.

Yeah I always like to go with the idea there was more dumb luck then any sort of actual divine inspiration.

Also I want to say if you look up the transcripts of the radio broadcasts it pretty much points to just increase in global tensions being a reason.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The only true continuity in the far cry games (well from three on) is Hurk.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Am I a weirdo for kind of missing Montana and hell even Kyrat. It’s not that the locations or ugly or anything it just feels been there done that in a weird way. I suspect that’s mostly because of jungle settings being very common in FPS and other genres vs Montana.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Earwicker posted:

and in the series. the first three FC games all have jungle environments

Yeah that too, I also think Kyrat and Montana just had far more diverse biomes and locales too.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://youtube.com/watch?v=in8Lc1fA1NA

It’s a shame the full game wasn’t ever done due to lower the expected view counts. Still what’s here is gold.

But they are doing Far Cry 6!

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Finster Dexter posted:

The FC5 docuseries was gold. Thanks to whoever posted that

You’re welcome! I also highly highly advise the subnatucia one.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

explosivo posted:

Oh poo poo, there's essentially a transmog system in here. If you hit F to 'inspect' a piece of gear, you can apply an appearance to it in the bottom corner like it is for weapons and from there choose any other piece of gear you own to make it look like that but keep the same bonuses. So I can be immune to fire with the fuego set but not look like a dumb firefighter for example.

I feel like Ubisoft is having a mild case of the resident evil six in terms of explaining things.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh if you have GeForce Now and Ubisoft Connect, it works the same as if you owned the game or any other Ubisoft Connect game. It's a nice option, since you generally have a PC version vs a "cloud version" and if you're not a fan of Luna or Stadia.

Of course I've being weird and replaying Far Cry 5 for some reason. lol

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WhiteHowler posted:

I have a free month of Ubisoft+ or Connect+ or whatever it's called, and for some reason I started playing Far Cry New Dawn rather than FC6 (or Assassin's Creed Valhalla, which is the game on the service I was most excited about).

New Dawn was actually a lot of fun, even if the ending that gets you to New Dawn....is not so much. Honestly, if they had found a way to make New Dawn a dream in 6, and thus 5 awful endings aren't canon....I'm cool with it.

Oh I will add Far Cry 6 stealth takedowns are back to being brutal AF.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
While having fun with Far Cry 5, can I just say gently caress gunpowder in 6. Look I get mats can be fairly esoteric, but goddamn this is dumb.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Au Revoir Shosanna posted:

i'd agree with all of that if i wasn't somehow always in dire need of more goddamn gun powder

It’s just so goddamn annoying, like if it had been named something else, I wouldn’t be as annoyed, since it could be something that’s not laying all around the place like ammunition loaded with bullets and gun powder.

Finally got off tutorial island and I have to say I like 5s version of it more, but I’ll give the main game more of a try…while replaying FC5 for the 2nd time on NG+.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Calaveron posted:

Are there wacky weapons or is it all dull tacticool regular weapons? I really enjoyed the buzz saw launcher in ND

I think there’s a CD player gun that plays the Macarena.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I’m so weird. I’m on my way to beating FC5 again and then playing New Dawn. I haven’t had any desire to play FC6. I think it’s more that FC6 is a UbiConnect title and I’m just not into playing it on my pc vs couch console play. A part of me wonders if I just eventually get it on Series X if I’ll like it more.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You know the more I think about it, the peggies strike me not solely as borrowing from David Koresh, but (and this is obvious once you watch a couple minutes of Wild Wild Country on Netflix), but honestly I think a large part is also based on the Rajneeshees in Oregon in the early and mid 1980s.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So did anyone else watch Wild Wild Country on Netflix (and while this doc came out after FC5), it feels like that a lot of people in the development (well not the goofy lead who was in a doomsday cult) team were basing it on what happened in the 80s in Oregon with Bhagwan and his crew.

Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wiltsghost posted:

Played a few hours of 5 after beating 6 since I never played that one. Having a silent protagonist suuuuucks. It feels so lifeless after playing 6.

You need to get Hurk and Sharky and that will fix it.

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Marshal Prolapse
Jun 23, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Wiltsghost posted:

I will play more. Just something that really struck me only a few hours in. Hopefully they go the 6 route for future releases.

One thing that’s good about far cry five is a lot of the NPC‘s and incidental characters are a lot of fun.

I think once you start getting guns for hire and watching the different interaction even with just the generic ones and the named ones it’s adds a lot.

Also he’s technically not silent, as when he loses a fish, they make sure of a grunting annoyed noise. lol

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