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^  GIFT INCOMING! ^Just in time for my birthday! Have a little treat! My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA  * DLC & Early Access games on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome.  (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! )  EDIT: Gloria Victis: Siege Survival & Super Magbot sent up! EDIT 2: Got SANDWICHED w/ Across the Obelisk & The Solitaire Conspiracy from Strix, and then Cuntpunch sent me Baldur's Gate 3! Thanks to you both very much! sklurb fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jun 24, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * DLC & Early Access games on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent up Rogue State Revolution, Dual Gear, and The Dark Side of the Moon. EDIT 2: ...and SA_Avenger fired right back with Element TD 2 - Multiplayer Tower Defense, Obsidian Prince, Scrutinized, Huusuienbu - Chapter spring and Summer, 100 Hidden Cats, 100 Hidden Snails, and Bloody Service! Geez! Thanks! 
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * DLC, pre-orders & Early Access games on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Heidelberg 1693 & Industries of Titan up! EDIT 2: Thank you so much for Roguebook, SA_Avenger! sklurb fucked around with this message at 08:46 on Jun 26, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated) My Steam ID - USA * Pre-orders, DLC, & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Harvested, Inferno - Beyond the 7th Circle, Tetra Cube, and Mind Scanners up! EDIT 2: Will send a fourth title as soon as I sort out the EDIT 3: Received Fae Tactics, Kingdom Builders, Ghostbusters: The Video Game Remastered, and Hell's Gate - Slide Puzzle from the very generous Sir Fozzie! Thanks very much! sklurb fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated) My Steam ID - USA * Pre-orders, DLC, & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Tunguska: The Visitation sent on up! EDIT 2: Received Becastled & Death's Hangover from Kuule hain nussivan, thanks! sklurb fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jun 27, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated) My Steam ID - USA  * Pre-orders (Naraka, New World), Founder's Packs (Lost Ark), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome.  * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Hedon, Wintermoor Tactics Club, Deep Sleep Trilogy, and Hero Hours Contract on up! EDIT 2: Off to bed! EDIT 3: Woke up to Vagrus! Thanks a bunch, Cuntpunch! sklurb fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jun 28, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * Low tier Pre-orders (Naraka, New World), Beta Access & bonuses (Lost Ark), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: The Last Spell received! Thanks so much Nerdie! sklurb fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ GOTCHA! My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * Low tier Pre-orders (Naraka, New World), Beta Access & bonuses (Lost Ark), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Scarlet Hollow, Methods: Detective Competition, and Nancy Drew: the Secret of Shadow Ranch on up! EDIT 2: Received Lost Ark Silver Founder's Pack from BabyRyoga! Thanks very much! sklurb fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders (Naraka, Orcs Must Die 3, New World), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Kings of Lorn: The Fall of Ebris, Binding of Isaac Rebirth, & Dreadout 2 sent up! EDIT 2: Received The Tenants from Ferrosol, thanks! sklurb fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ (WELCOME BACK!) My Wishlist (updated & in order of preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders (Naraka, Orcs Must Die 3, New World), DLC, software & Early Access items on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: SOLASTA Crown of the Magister sent up! EDIT 2: Received Orcs Must Die 3 from Flatulance-a-lot! Thanks so much! sklurb fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Jun 30, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders (Naraka, New World, & System Shock), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Arcaxer, Ocean's Heart, & Vampire's Fall: Origins sent up! EDIT 2: Received Knockout City & Quantum Protocol from Bad News Panda! Thank you! sklurb fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders (Naraka, New World, & System Shock), DLC & Early Access items on my list (even w/ Mixed reviews) are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Force of Nature 2 & The Survivalists sent up! EDIT 2: Received Night of the Dead from Goodguy3! Thanks! sklurb fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Pre-orders, DLC & Early Access items on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent up Industries of Titan & Skeletal Avenger! EDIT 2: Received Geneforge 1 - Mutagen from Deformed Church. Welcome back to the gift train. 
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Updated 7/2 & ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders, DLC & Early Access items (even w/ mixed reviews) on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Carnal Instinct, Out of the Park Baseball 22, and Waiting for the Raven on up to this coming week's  BIRTHDAY BOY, SA_AVENGER! (You might get a few birthday spankings out of that first title...) EDIT 2: Received Prodeus from Fart of Presto! Thank you!! sklurb fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders, DLC & Early Access items (even w/ mixed reviews) on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Tactics V: Obsidian Brigade & Visual Out sent up! EDIT 2: I just got blasted in the rear end by SA_Avenger! Thanks so much for King Arthur: Knight's Tale! Love the darkness of this one. sklurb fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jul 4, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Updated & ranked by preference) My Steam ID - USA * Lowest tier Pre-orders (Naraka & New World), DLC, software & Early Access items on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) EDIT: Sent Empires in Ruins, Gemcraft: Frostborn Wrath, Grim Wanderings 2 & Headbangers in Holiday Hell up! EDIT 2: Received Everspace 2 from Cuntpunch! Thanks a ton man!
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(NOT A RIDE) Xander, as a train veteran yourself, you can really do better for a fellow longtime train veteran like Bad News Panda, who just spent $30+ USD and averages $30 USD per gift that he gave this train. I realize, he hasn't complained, but come on man, you really shouldn't be coming in at the edge of minimum with bundle leftovers for someone like this after all these years that you've been riding. We want to retain our participants, instead of discouraging them from coming back. It's not like you're a newcomer who just wants to be able to join in the fun for a ride and can only afford minimum. $8.99 USD / Bloodstained 2 $0.99 USD / 6-year-old minimum tier bundle game, Dex (2015) $1.00 USD / 4-year-old minimum tier bundle game, Cat Quest (2017) ____________ $10.98 USD sklurb fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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^ GIFT INCOMING! ^ My Wishlist (Updated & in order: * Items above Dwarf Fortress & the group of unreleased games are preferred; stuff below the unreleased games are to help w/ international currency flexibility) My Steam ID - USA * Pre-orders, DLC, software & Early Access items on my list are always welcome. * (Please only send gifts that are on my wishlist. THANKS! ) Probably my last ride, I'm tapped....thanks for the fun train! EDIT: Sent Avorion & Sentenced VR on up! EDIT 2: I'll respond to Xander77's comments during the post train discussion, don't you fret. For now, let's have our final rides be on positive notes. Edit 3: I got some serious metal w/ Valfaris & Paratopic from Ningyou. Thank you! sklurb fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Maerlyn posted:First timer and the clock is ticking, but I keep returning to this thread so gently caress it, let's ride (NOT A RIDE) Hey! Welcome to the train! This is all we see: "OOPS, THERE'S NOTHING TO SHOW HERE There are 0 items on your wishlist, but none of them match the filters you have applied above" It's fixed.
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Fantastic train, Nettle. Record-breaking. Thanks for the spin on the Wheel of Trash. Really great to see some new faces, and looking forward to seeing you in the next train this coming winter season sale. sklurb fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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TL:DR - Overall, one of our BEST Trains! - "Yada yada, history of the train, blah blah." - If someone fucks you over on the train, "ignore" them on the SA Forums (check the base of their profile to do so), "block all communication" on their Steam profile and speak to Nettlesoup. They won't be able to ride after you anymore. 👍🏽 (Example: Xander77 on Steam / Xander77's SA profile) ✂---✂---✂---✂---✂---✂---✂---✂---✂---✂ First and foremost, the Gift Trains have been intended to be a place to meet fellow Goons in the spirit of giving and fun. I've met a lot of good people from around the globe! Lots of respect to Nettle, who hosts the Train every six months, manages the behind-the-scenes stuff, and chases down riders, threatening a spin on the Wheel of Trash. We have a lighthearted event to gather around twice a year, peek at each other's wishlists, banter a bit, and fire off some joy to a giftee. The Train has improved in leaps and bound in recent years, and this summer's Train broke new records for us! Cuntpunch mentioned earlier (and I'm looking through his spreadsheet), we had an average gift given of over 250% of the minimum at $26.44 USD this year and that's with 249 rides! Really impressive. As SA_Avenger stated, we could reasonably raise our minimum gift, especially with more recent currency fluxuations the past couple years. Personally, I agree with the idea of raising it to $15 USD; I like that price point for a couple of reasons. One of those reasons is to help further ensure newcomers and veteran riders alike don't get hosed over by a rider who dumps their several years-old, bundle leftover trash or that gives the absolute bare minimum to riders repeatedly who have played nice. It's a lovely thing to do. It's much more rare now, but it still happens. I feel that behavior isn't in the spirit of the giving nature of our event, and often the recipients just don't return. I've personally observed this for the past seven(?) years of riding the train (as have others) and how it's evolved. It's been addressed several times, and it's exhausting to have to come back to, so I'll be suggesting a few solutions that are in our power to help improve the experience more permanently. (SEE BELOW) As I mentioned, the Train has improved significantly. In the past, when I first started riding years ago, you gifted down to the person who joined after you. This created an issue with exploiters, as described above, who would be refreshing the page all day, looking for a known generous gifter to hop on, and these people armed with bundle trash leftovers would pounce on for a ride knowing they would get a good gift. They would often receive their gift from the person above and then dump trash onto whoever rode after them; usually a person who didn't know any better or someone who was going to take one for the team to get the train moving again (because the people in the know wouldn't ride after them). Even if these exploiters broke even, they could never lose. There used to be several people gifting bundle leftovers and the old Steam gift-style games from their inventory that the recipient didn't even have on their wishlist. It was something awful. *cough* So on to the 800lb gorilla in the room: Xander77 Back then, Xander77 was one of these people who would jump on the train after a generous rider and now appears to be the lone holdout of the trash-dumping trend from that time. He has ridden the Train many scores of times (potentially hundreds). He's one of the reasons we have a "neighborhood watch" in the background to keep an eye out. We're trying to grow the Train's community, and behavior like that destroys what we've trying to build here. When he fucks someone over, we often feel obligated to send that person some gifts to give a proper welcome and supplement his gift, etc. Sometimes, people will hop on after him to ensure that he receives as 'good' as he gave. These issues resulted in the enforcement of adhering to people's wishlist and the change from gifting down, to gifting up, so that no one could stack the deck in their favor in more recent years. Xander77's adjustment to this change would be to find a game for around $1.99 from the recipient's wishlist and then add in some bundle trash to puff up the gift. The absolute minimum he could do to still claim he followed the rules and gave from the person's wishlist. He could still gift trash and make a moderate gain and sometimes a big gain. It was after Xander77 used this tactic on me a couple times a few years ago that I set him to "ignore" on the SA Forums and blocked all communication from him on Steam. He hasn't been able to ride after me since I did that, and it's been a relief. Next, regional pricing became a thing and majorly hampered his ability to join the train as often as he had. Now, with a higher minimum gift, rules to stick to the wishlist and regional currency issues, he can't ride very much anymore. He wants to talk in private, but he has been able to maneuver successfully through the years in privacy and obscurity, when people don't speak up and shine a light on him, when he isn't reported and called out. I've observed him use bundle leftover gifts to invite more people to the train that he can gift, and sometimes if they ride and receive a bad gift, they don't wish to bring it up because of his previous feigned generosity. I've talked to a few of these people over time. It's literally a lure. He's been known to send small $.19+ gifts to most train riders to smooth things over, appear generous and friendly. He has also displayed a much friendlier and helpful disposition toward the Train hosts than he has to fellow riders. Gifts generally go unthanked, unless it's pricier from his wishlist. He can be abrasive, ungrateful and insulting, not just in my past dealings with him, but with other train riders. There's some riders who speak behind-the-scenes who have chimed in with similar experiences. Every train. I have no confidence that he would do more than the absolute bare minimum to stay on the Train to keep his Train-sucking vaccuum going based on his history with the train, my personal history with him, and his overall Rap Sheet history on SA Forums going back to 2009. I don't see the point of trying to appeal to his sense of decency or shame. His Rap Sheet shows an even longer history of being unable or unwilling to change except what will allow him to skate by. He's been suspended and banned more than anyone I've seen on SA. He's even had to rebuy his account after being permanently suspended. He's behaved persistently and shamelessly. Anyway, that's been my experience through the years with and without Xander77, and as I look back through the Train to Page 6, it appears as though he still hasn't done right by Bad News Panda after being called out for making GBS threads on the Train. As stated, he technically gave a little over the minimum, but he's been exploiting for years. Veteran rider Bad News Panda deserved better from a fellow veteran rider. Shining a light on this publicly, because we've been so sick of talking about it privately and having it recur year after year. So, the heyday of the Train of yesteryear is over for exploiters like Xander77. Neighborhood watch is here to stay.  -END ______________________________________________________________ PS: I wanted to make a differentiation: For the newcomers and the financially strapped, the minimum gift is intended to make sure everyone gets a chance for a ride or two and is seen by most as a positive open door to do so. Repeatedly using the minimum, especially from a veteran rider who has taken years of rides on the Train is not the intended use: to give the minimum and gain the maximum over and over and over. Big difference! ______________________________________________________________ ⭐ CHANGES THAT WE CAN MAKE GOING FORWARD: ⭐ Solution 1: Ban exploiters from the train. (A very rare need) Solution 2: Raise the minimum gift to dissuade exploiters. Solution 3: "Ignore" users who exploit their fellows. (You can do this on their SA profile link at the bottom of their page) Solution 4: Go to their Steam profile and "Block all communication" from exploiters on Steam. (Upper right side by the displayed badges) Solution 5: Clean up your wishlist of games that are older than 1-2 years. 'Follow' these older games in Steam to keep track of them away from your WL. If you haven't bought them by now, you probably won't soon. 
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Xander77 posted:Huh. That's a fairly big jump from "It's a breach of *etiquette*, not *law*" to "we're the TRAIN WATCH". And from the reasonable to the aggressively paranoid. Who is this person who looks like Xander77, but sounds nothing like him? EDIT: Dinner done, belly full. Disclaimer: My previous post and this one have been from a place of calm. I've been direct, but I've taken time to consider my thoughts before posting. It's bothersome to see you gaslight so easily, and turn it around like several of us have an issue in our state of mind that causes us to become paranoid and see things that are just not there. Like we haven't experienced this personally with your behavior. The way you are speaking shows that you know what a person should do in such a situation, but....you just don't behave that way. Sounds like you are quoting Cuntpunch in your first sentences, but I absolutely agree with him. Neither of us were saying that you "technically" broke a rule, but you sure have been gaming the system for a long time and that's no figment of the imagination as you would have people believe. We're not the only ones who have experienced this with you, and others do speak up in threads or in private conversations; it's been a "thing" for a looooonnnnngggggg-rear end time. I guess you don't recall one of the conversations we had on Steam years ago. It became necessary for a group of us to make an effort to retain members to have some riders keep an eye out for people making GBS threads on the train. It's been that way for a few years now. To play sweeper and send supplemental gifts to welcome newcomers who might not come back after the experience. I have no personal issue with you using Humble, Fanatical, etc, and I use keys myself mostly when I gift, but when you selectively dump crappy old keys from the Stone Age that were in cheap bundles multiple times over several years, you are knowingly making GBS threads where you live and loving a fellow over. You speak to how generous you have been gifting to hundreds of people that you now can't due to regional issues, etc, but if you're now saving all that money, surely you must be able to gift extremely well to three or four people on the train...because you "enjoy gifting to people." As Penance at the very least. You're welcome to have the last word. I've said what I came to say. sklurb fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Bad News Panda posted:First off, thank you as always to Nettle for running the show and the wheel of trash! I'm 100% sure that wheel grows every year, despite the number of spins on it and it terrifies me. Really glad to hear that things got settled up a little bit. Most riders seem to keep an eye on what's being sent and received; it's kind of exciting (to me) to see what's trending or especially seeing something given that I haven't heard of before. Checking out other people's wishlists and preferences is a lot of the fun. To offer some relief to you and anyone who may feel some anxiety about gift values, generally speaking, the prices/values of gifts that are being given aren't 'scrutinized' normally, unless problems keep popping up around a specific person. That's when some of us start looking into patterns. PS: I agree, the Trains are some of my favorite parts of the year too! BabyRyoga posted:This being my first train, I tried to follow a certain etiquette. I hope I did well. I thought you were great. You had a nice streak, you gifted well and received well. Keeping a well-tuned, modern wishlist helps enormously, having items mainly from the last year or two helps ensure that you don't receive old, commonly bundled items. sklurb fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Nettle Soup posted:Xander has been in contact with me, and discussion can move on from him specifically now, thanks. I'm online in Steam if you want to message me about it. Sounds good, thanks Nettle.
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Khanstant posted:Is there a way to hold-up the train, put on a little bandito mask, demand y'all hand over all the pac-men and nobody gets hurt? The days of holding up the train in these here parts are over. 
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