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corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Microsoft seems to be proud of their tradition of every other major version of windows being poo poo.

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corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

There were a lot of those back in the early 2000s. Off the top of my head I remember 3DTop and 3DNA Desktop

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

e: nm

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

With the hardware and TPM requirements they’ve ensured that they’ve locked themselves out of upgrading the vast majority of windows 10 systems.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Hungry Computer posted:

Various media outlets said yesterday that the requirements won't be enforced when upgrading/installing from media instead of windows update. I didn't see an official Microsoft source for that claim though.

I'm a little sceptical of Microsoft's claim that unsupported CPUs have 52% more kernel mode crashes in win11. They give the same 52% figure when discussing AMD Zen1 and for unsupported CPUs in general. Doesn't make sense to me that they'd have the exact same rate of failure. They also don't give any context at all for those crashes.

Everyone I've seen claiming that media installs won't enforce hardware requirements refers back to the Verge article, I think it's just a hopeful rumor. And a relative increase in risk also doesn't mean poo poo unless you know the absolute risk, which for kernel mode crashes I am assuming is pretty drat low already.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Sorta, but a lot of things break, such as (IIRC) all windows store apps.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

CaptainSarcastic posted:

The main reason I ever run Windows on my personal machines is for gaming, and if that continues to reach parity on the Linux side then I really won't have any need for Windows except maybe as a backup OS or for niche purposes.

At this point I think the biggest thing holding back Linux gaming is the fact that publishers still insist on using denuvo. Just about everything else I’ve tried in Proton has been playable but if the game has denuvo DRM, you have to find a crack or boot into windows to play it.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

repiv posted:

I know anti-cheats are currently a brick wall for Proton but I thought DRM generally wasn't a problem?

I checked the list of games with Denuvo that have yet to be cracked and a good chunk of them are Gold or Platinum

https://www.protondb.com/app/1446650
https://www.protondb.com/app/1277400
https://www.protondb.com/app/1113560
https://www.protondb.com/app/447040
https://www.protondb.com/app/629820

Huh, I’ll have to check again, I was bashing my head against the wall trying to get some of my games to work as recently as six months ago.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Chocolatey is probably the closest you’ll get to a good third party windows package manager but it falls apart the first time you have to install something that isn’t listed (90% of non-free software) or that has a broken package in their repo.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

I'm the special snowflake who uses restic to both a b2 bucket and my NAS. B2 bucket gets everything on the disk, NAS just gets stuff in my home directory because that's just for if I accidentally delete a file.

Storage is cheap, having a backup you can use to restore a system to a fully working state without spending hours configuring software and inputting product keys is valuable. I guess if the only poo poo you use is Office and Chrome then only backup your home directory.

Flipperwaldt posted:

They mentioned plugins for audio recording, which is like the poster child of delicate and obtuse bespoke setups which are difficult to replicate. It's entirely justified to have an image with all that installed.

Yes, VSTs are a special hell and you absolutely need a full system image. I've seen modern ones that drop entries in win.ini still.

corgski fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Mar 7, 2023

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

When Linux idles, it idles and doesn't do anything.

systemd has entered the chat

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Fuschia tude posted:

Oh, you mean the CPU? :smuggo:

It doesn't have a CPU it's a labtop!!!

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Harik posted:

How do you prevent this from happening? I have zero interest in downgrading my OS from a functional one to whatever the gently caress malware/adware nonsense this thread is about.

Is "don't destroy my machine plz" enterprise-only?

I disabled the TPM module in my BIOS to block it. Seems to have worked so far. Sadly my work laptop came with 11 and that's a one-two punch of everything being broken all the time and not having local admin to fix it.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

It would be hilarious to see them turn back on their TPM and CPU requirements like that and just roll out the update to everyone, but I think it's unlikely. This will either be another XP/Vista situation, but with less actual justification for the hardware requirements, or they'll be racing to roll out Windows 12, now with legacy support.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

It's not random partitions - it'll create an EFI boot partition if that doesn't exist yet (and usually too small at only 100MB, so you're better off making that with a linux installer) and a 300MB recovery partition at the end of the disk/free space and then the partition you tell it to make right after the EFI partition, which will gently caress you later when you run out of room on the EFI partition.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Arivia posted:

What’s the issue with the EFI partition being too small? Is this something Windows users generally run into, or is it only a problem when dual-booting or similar?

These days it's only really an issue when dual-booting but some early UEFI implementations had bugs that would cause issues with UEFI booting or BIOS updates if the partition was smaller than 256 MB.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Volguus posted:

Windows and linux can all use the same efi partition just fine. And I think freebsd can too, but it's been a while since I had it installed. They all sit in different folders and don't bother each other.
pre:
/dev/nvme0n1p2                     96M   67M   30M  69% /boot/efi
Of course, it being 100MB you don't want to put your kernel there, but just the bootloader files is more than fine. Plenty of space. You can have multiple EFI partitions, but you definitely do not need to.

Sadly, secure boot is making it more of a necessity to put your kernel in the EFI partition. Thanks Microsoft.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_kernel_image

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

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Klyith posted:

This is a place where the Arch wiki is not the best reference. If you need to have secure boot turned on, you really want to go with a corporate-backed distro (ubuntu, fedora, etc) that has signed shims to avoid all that. Arch doesn't have that because it's a decentralized community project.

And if you want to use Arch, just turn off secure boot.

Fedora is also (slowly) migrating to UKI, it's a better structure for ensuring integrity of the boot process than using signed shims to load potentially untrusted code.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Unified_Kernel_Support_Phase_1

corgski fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 19, 2024

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

If you play video games an increasing number of anti-cheat packages for both Windows and Linux/Proton are requiring it.

corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Klyith posted:


That's TPM.

No, it's secure boot.

https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/articles/4406281700370-Secure-Boot-needs-to-be-enabled-to-launch-FACEIT-AC
https://www.thespike.gg/valorant/tips/how-to-enable-secure-boot-for-valorant
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/12uzsan/why_are_anticheat_systems_now_forcing_the/
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/given-r...anjaro/139179/9

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corgski
Feb 6, 2007

Silly goose, you're here forever.

Klyith posted:

Anyways given that recently someone hacked into other people's games live in a loving tournament and remotely turned on cheats in their games, I would say that a ring-0 anticheat program made by loving videogame devs is a bigger security risk than anything else we've been talking about. :v:

Oh absolutely, I would celebrate if Microsoft started treating all kernel anticheat like they do SafeDisc. (Which is to say, blacklist their drivers and tell anyone who complains to pound sand.)

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