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Bilirubin posted:Jesus Christ. I mean I would say that's monstrous behavior, but its pretty much standard fare when it comes to Blegium in the Congo Yeah, I'd compare it to the Skull and Bones society masturbating into the skeleton of Geronimo.
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Starting tomorrow I want to make daily posts about every African country, starting from Algeria and ending with Zimbabwe. Because why not?
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Yossarian-22 posted:Starting tomorrow I want to make daily posts about every African country, starting from Algeria and ending with Zimbabwe. Because why not? 
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Bilirubin posted:Jesus Christ. I mean I would say that's monstrous behavior, but its pretty much standard fare when it comes to Blegium in the Congo
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https://twitter.com/bongani_cel/status/1413143904711430147?s=21 one of Jacob Zumba’s buddies just got arrested mid-presser
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Troy Queef posted:https://twitter.com/bongani_cel/status/1413143904711430147?s=21 getting a kick at how genuine his surprise seems to be
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Zuma should be locked up for life.
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Both him and the current pres should be locked up for killing dozens of miners rather than having a stupid interparty powergrabbing purge imo
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intertia is the only thing keeping the ANC together, its ideological roots are nearly totally decomposed
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Resistance movement parties named National Congress usually do lmao Ahmed Chalabi started one
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wow terrible thread rating, y'all hate africa
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Racist xenophobes. I will be making a post about the history of Algeria later today If you cannot confirm your skin color I am banning y*all however
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thanks for all this great Africa content
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Why is this thread rated so poorly. Mods?
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Kindest Forums User posted:Why is this thread rated so poorly. Mods? VOTE
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doing my part for anti racism and decolonization: 5d and subcribed
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Kindest Forums User posted:Why is this thread rated so poorly. Mods? D&D has been poo poo vote bombing
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3.0: forkboy84 2.0: Flayer 1.0: BlueBull 1.0: PostsYouCanDanceTo
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i appreciate the updates op even if there aren't many replies. its why i like the Philippines thread so much
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nigerias government is getting close to approving a large overhaul of the country's oil sector. there's a lot of technical stuff i won't pretend to understand but one interesting bit is the proposed revenue sharing with communities where exploration and production (mostly production i think at this point but maybe not... ive definitely heard they're thinking about auctioning some exploration blocks in kaduna state which is near boko haram/isis territory lol). currently the amount is 2.5% and community organizations have been pushing for more. specifically for 10%. they didn't get it - the bill hasn't been finalized but the increased amount is going to be between 3% and 5%. the niger delta avengers, who shut down like half of the country's oil production a while back, have threatened to resume attacks over this. should be a lot of fun!
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hm let me see expend a fractional amount extra to satisfy the demands of the cooperating locals orrrrr bombs
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guys this is tough what do i do
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Algeria - History, Politics, etc. Ancient poo poo A bunch of Berbers kicked out a bunch of other people in what is now Algeria years ago. Then Phoenicians conquered the Berbers around 900 BC and created the Carthaginian Empire. Then, during the second Punic War, this Berber dude named Masinissa switched sides and united both the Eastern and Western Numidian tribes to fight with Rome against Carthage. He also gets credit for spreading Carthaginian agricultural practices to Numidia, and Numidia later becomes the breadbasket of the Roman Empire. Rome allowed him to rule Numidia from Cirta, which is now known as Constantine or the "city of bridges" after being both destroyed and rebuilt in the time of Emperor Constantine. Constantine, in NE Algeria, is currently the third largest city in the country  Rome took full control of Numidia when the illegitimate nephew of Masinissa's son, Jigurtha, bribed a bunch of Roman political/military officials to take control of its Western half whereas Masinissa's grandson Adherbal got the less fertile Eastern half. Jigurtha eventually took everything over and killed the Roman businessmen helping Adherbal. This was too much for Rome, and a whole insane series of events led to a plebeian Roman named Gaius Marius becoming both consul and the commander of the Roman forces in Numidia despite not meeting the property requirements for military service and in spite of Senate protests. (A brief aside: the bribery here and Marius's reform of the military are both considered early signs of the Roman Republic's eventual collapse.) Under Roman rule we meet arguably the most famous Numidian: St. Augustine. He was born and in what is now NE Algeria and preached in the city of Hippo (now Annaba, Algeria) throughout his life. Vandals sacked Hippo just before he died and he was sad about it. After he died they sacked it again and supposedly burned just about everything in the city except for his cathedral and library, probably because the Vandals were Arian Christians. I'm gonna poo poo and play Enter the Gungeon. Arab conquest is next. BONUS: Here's a reproduction of some insane ancient rock art from southeastern Algeria, specifically Tassili n'Ajjer or the "Plateau of Rivers." Lots of theories abound about shamans using psychedelic mushrooms as a result of the mushroom art found in this part of the Sahara.  PPS: We know from rock art in Algeria and Mauritania that animal husbandry, the horse, and then the camel became prominent in the Sahara from roughly 3000 BCE to 1000 BCE, thus leading to prosperous trans-Saharan trade. Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 06:34 on Jul 10, 2021 |
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Algeria - Middle Ages The Byzantines reconquered Numidia after 100 years of Vandal rule.  Muslim Conquest Uqba ibn Nafi led the first Muslim conquests into the Maghreb in 647. Here is a statue of him in Algeria. He was killed by a Christian Berber king in the battle of Vescara (modern day Biskra, Algeria) and his Byzantine allies in 682/683.  It took Hassan ibn al-Nu'man to finally complete the Islamic conquest of the Maghreb. However, he was famously resisted by Dihya, aka "al-Kahina" and "Queen of the Berbers." She forced him to retreat to Cyrenica (modern day Libya) for 4-5 years. However, her scorched earth campaigns in Islamic cities alienated thousands of Berbers who would later prove essential to helping al-Nu'man complete his conquests.  (Dihya's legacy is still complicated to this day. A Christian rebel, some Algerian Arabs during French rule considered her a symbol of resistance to foreign occupation whereas the French tried to employ her as a symbol of Christian modernization and Western feminism. She continues to be a huge icon among Berber activists. ) Many Berbers were happy to convert to Islam when they saw its potential benefits. However, many soon found that they were still treated as second class citizens and forced to pay the jizya that was supposedly only levied upon non-Muslim subjects. Those who served in Islamic armies typically had to serve in the vanguard whereas the Arabic subjects got to serve in the rear. One particular sect, the Kharijites, promoted the idea that anyone of any ethnicity or nationality could be the caliph. Thus there were major Berber revolts which led to secessionist Berber kingdoms. and one Kharijite sect managed to rule most of modern Algeria for over 100 years under the Rustimid Dynasty. It was not until the Almohad Dynasty that the last vestiges of pagan/Christian/Jewish Berber resistance to Muslim rule were stamped out, which was when the region became almost uniformly Sunni Muslim (the region was ruled by the Shia Fatimid Caliphate for a time). Barbary Pirates are next. Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 01:32 on Jul 11, 2021 |
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Cool stuff! Please know these posts are appreciated
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np. I'm not used to long-form posts and any advice on formatting is appreciated. I tried to find a smaller picture of the Kahina statue earlier for that reason.
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Protests in South Africa after the former president Zuma was arrested https://mobile.twitter.com/insightfactor/status/1414143358658879496 https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1414569721689690116
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Algeria - Pirates, Ottomans, and Spaniards During the aforementioned medieval historical period, there were several Mediterranean wars between the Muslim rulers in North Africa and the Christian rulers in Europe. Muslims held many captured many Europeans as slaves during this period, either through warfare or when raiding the European coast. Some Christian orders such as the Trinitarians were founded in Europe during this time to combat slave raiders. But it's not until after Spain's reconquista, i.e. post-Columbus/the early modern period that this really accelerates. Spain gets a bit overzealous and conquers several North African cities, including Oran (now the second biggest city in Algeria) and notably the Peñón, a small island off the coast of Algiers. Spain forces Sālim al-Tūmī, the amir of Algiers, to recognize their presence and pay tribute, and he even meets Ferdinand of Aragon for this purpose. They later invade Algiers anyway. Salim then hires the famous Albanian-Turkic Barbarossa pirate brothers (based previously in Tunis) to recapture Algiers, and they do. (They also assassinate Sālim because he was secretly trying to undermine piracy in Algiers.) The Spanish settle and refortify in Peñón. Oruç or "father" Barbarrosa, so called because he helped Muslims and Jews escape persecution in Andalusia, Spain during the Spanish inquisition (many of these refugees would later become some of the most fearsome Barbary pirates), becomes the pasha of Algiers, However, seeing as he is constantly at war with Spain, he offers the city to the Ottoman Sultan and accepts a demotion to governor. Now serving under the Ottomans, he expands his territory against the Spanish but gets killed in battle in 1518. His brother, Hayreddin Barbarossa, finishes the job of expelling Spain from Peñón and the rest of the country, although Spain would have an on again off again relationship with Oran over the next few centuries. He also becomes the leader of the Ottoman navy and helps Suleiman the Magnificant establish complete dominance over the Mediterranean. Henceforth, the Regency of Algiers would be a primary base of Ottoman operations for wars against Spain and Morocco. Under Hayreddin's son, Ottoman Algierian armies beat back Spanish-Moroccan forces in the West, previously host to the independent Berber kingdom in Tlemcen. Emperor Charles V hilariously tries to take back Algiers with his conquistador buddy Hernán Cortés, but their navy gets sunk by the winds and get routed upon landing. Additionally, Algiers defeats independent sultanates to the south in the Sahara Desert and establishes a foothold there. Hosting 100 ships manned by 8,000-10,000 pirates, an economy in which 25% of the people work in piracy, and a population of 40% enslaved people, Algiers easily becomes the most powerful Barbary state for the next few centuries, and manages to kidnap hundreds of thousands of Christians as far north as Iceland despite various punitive expeditions from European powers. It becomes so powerful, in fact, that the Ottomans sometimes only maintained de jure control over the city. During one 60 year period known as the "Agha period," Janissaries of the Algerian army elected their own rulers known as Aghas to rival the Ottoman appointed Pasha. During this period of dual leadership, every single Algerian Agha, without exception, was assassinated. The Ottoman/Algerian relationship gets very confusing during the "Early Dey Period," with the Janissaries getting infuriated by no longer having total control over the Agha elections. Finally, a coup by Baba Ali Chaouche (bolded for being a source of Algerian pride to this day) results in the expulsion of the Pasha in 1710 and results in the de facto independence of Algeria from the Ottoman Empire, the consolidation of its borders, and a newfound elective monarchy.  Throughout these longwinded centuries of history that I just tried my best to summarize, the Kabyle Berber kingdoms in the Atlas mountains would maintain relative independence from Algeria and the Ottomans by siding with the regency against the Europeans and Morocco. These were known as the Kingdom of Kuku and the Kingdom of Beni Abbas based primarily in the Atlas and Biban mountain ranges. This will be important in my next post, when I cover the Barbary wars with the U.S. and French colonization. Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 03:06 on Jul 17, 2021 |
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I heard an interview with one leftwing activist in South Africa speculate about some of the unrest in South Africa being deep state related shenanigans. Not like CIA interference, but internal ANC factions purposely inflaming the situation. Most of what they were saying was about how inequality and lack of social development made unrest and rioting inevitable, so I was surprised they tossed that in at the end. Is there any weight to that?
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Very cool posts, thanks much Yossarian
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Atrocious Joe posted:I heard an interview with one leftwing activist in South Africa speculate about some of the unrest in South Africa being deep state related shenanigans. Not like CIA interference, but internal ANC factions purposely inflaming the situation. Most of what they were saying was about how inequality and lack of social development made unrest and rioting inevitable, so I was surprised they tossed that in at the end. Jacob Zuma is a populist who appeals to the rural impoverished elements of South African society. He is also Zulu, and played a major role in ending violence between members of the tribalist Inkatha Freedom Party and the ANC in the 90s. His dirty dealing corrupt machine politics also helped many Zulus get jobs during his presidency. Many people thus feel like they owe him a debt of gratitude. Plus, his corrupt populism is a breath of fresh air for some people when compared to the sterile overtly pro-business rule of Cyril Ramaphosa, particularly under the current stagnant COVID economy. However, the current Zulu king has condemned the violence as tantamount to "suicide" and in particular the looting and violence against Indian shop owners in KwaZulu-Natal.
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From what I can gather, Cyril Ramaphosa is much more neoliberal than Zuma. That despite Zuma being a dude who looted state coffers to the tune of billions and basically allowed the Gupta family to capture the state. At the very least, Zuma made higher education free, and *talked* enough of a good game to initially win the support of socialists and communists in South Africa. Moreover, it seems to me that Ramaphosa is using the anti-corruption campaign against Zuma to purge members of the ANC who are to his left. So yeah, party factionalism is definitely a problem. Zuma is also an egomaniacal kleptocrat who wants to see the country burn if it helps him save his skin.
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frankenfreak posted:3.0: forkboy84 Always excited to see how I've voted while phone posting with fat fingers
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somebody tried to stab the interim president/coup leader during eid al-adha prayers today. there's a bunch of different potential culprits here so speculation is probably pointless. 2021 seems like a cursed month for world leaders, bodyguards need to be watching out 
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São Tomé and Príncipe is having a runoff for its presidential race. Center-right incumbent party vs. anti-colonialist/leftist party with origins in the country's independence movement against Portugal in the 60s/70s. The current candidate is the son of the ex-president and independence leader of the same party.
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Jose posted:this seems bad? Opposition is right wing but Tanzania had an idiot president who denied COVID and said that vaccines don't work, encouraged prayer and steam baths, and then died of either COVID or heart disease depending on who you ask. His VP (now president) has been way better. She did a complete 180 on Covid and relaxed some of the former's authoritarianism, even freeing 5000 prisoners recently. The country has essentially been a one party state since independence though albeit the neoliberals did decently a couple of elections ago. Human Rights Watch is still upset that Tanzania hasn't gone "far enough" but I feel like we know what that often means. What's weird though is the country only just started publishing COVID data and it's probably still undercounted. Also fuel prices are way up. Country is still mostly agricultural but has a growing mining sector. Zanzibar has gone further in terms of privatization and reforming their economy than the mainland, and is mostly dependent on the export of cloves. Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 00:17 on Jul 22, 2021 |
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