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COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

I thought Kingfish was pretty fair and did a decent job describing his political philosophy and accomplishments though not written from a left wing perspective.

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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

In Training posted:

Bump!!!! Anybody got a good rec for a biography of Huey P. Long. And curious if there's any easy resource of opinions from the US left in the 30s about long and his assassination.

He has an autobiography out. Iirc some of the CPUSA guys also wrote about him.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Started reading Bill Haywood's autobiography. It's long as hell but really good.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

In Training posted:

Bump!!!! Anybody got a good rec for a biography of Huey P. Long. And curious if there's any easy resource of opinions from the US left in the 30s about long and his assassination.

The T. Harry Williams biography is excellent.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Leroy Diplowski posted:

Also has anyone read anything by the Strugatsky brothers?

I am like 25% through doomed city and it's quite the ride. So far the city is invaded by baboons, everyone decided to get super drunk together including the Nazis, and the government decided to gift each citizen with a free baboon.

I finished Doomed City recently and liked it overall. It's very C-SPAM, and the afterword gave some interesting context. Andrei Voronin is a great character. Some of the longer bits of abstract political theory, often while characters under the influence, are... well, not very illuminating. It's also full of rampant misogyny and has at most one female character with even a modicum of agency, oh but she's just a slut as are the others who barely even get to say anything. It's pretty disappointing and not really excusable - yeah, the original draft was finished in 1972 but they could have given it a second thought before publishing it in 1989.

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
doing some reading

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


has anyone read Armageddon Averted by Stephen Kotkin

i recently finished Collapse by Vladislov Zubok and it was good

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

Still on my to read list but his Stalin biography is excellent

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


it's pretty short so i'm reading it. it seems fine.

it's ~200 pages for 30 years of history vs. Zubok's ~700 (excluding footnotes) for 5 years so not expecting too much.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Yeah Armageddon Averted is good. I read it well before my opinion on Gorbachev had turned really sour so my takeaway was more about how resilient the USSR was than his engineering of its dissolution, but I'm sure it'd come through stronger now on a reread.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

COPE 27 posted:

Still on my to read list but his Stalin biography is excellent

I recently finished a biography of Stalin. It wasn't good.



e: "Uncle Joe - A contemporary's stories about Josef Stalin"

COPE 27
Sep 11, 2006

It looks cool though

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
Just finished a short story by Philip K dick called "A Surface Raid." It follows the story of an adolescent boy participating in his first excursion to the surface while we slowly realize his people are Morlocks. Only in this the pallid slouched morlocks are the technocrats and elites who started WW3 and the sun-burnt Eloi are hardscabbling communal tribesfolk that are slowly pushing back the nuclear slag surrounding their settlements.

I found it amusing.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

death

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


extra dumb for IJ because you need the endnotes

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

COPE 27 posted:

I thought Kingfish was pretty fair and did a decent job describing his political philosophy and accomplishments though not written from a left wing perspective.



AnimeIsTrash posted:

He has an autobiography out. Iirc some of the CPUSA guys also wrote about him.



MeatwadIsGod posted:

The T. Harry Williams biography is excellent.

Ty all, I ultimately picked up the T Harry Williams one. I got an ereader this year and just plugged it into the libgen mainframe...the world is at my fingertips now, this is awesome. No more big rear end books on the bus.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022



Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



i heard in korea the books are sold like that, in easy to hold parts.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Suplex Liberace posted:

i heard in korea the books are sold like that, in easy to hold parts.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012




i am repeating only what a sales rep from penguin random house told me.

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003
lol

but also in east Asia in general, not necessarily wrong, when mass-market paperbacks get over 250-300 pages they tend to just get split up into different volumes for binding/portability/marketing reasons. Japanese Das Kapital in paperback tends to be either 9 or 13, for example, or on the complete other end SF long-runners like Wheel of Time or ASoIaF get three, five, or even eight paperbacks per book that drop every month or two.

Hell, even the TPB/hardcover (not sure which is is tbh, just definitely not the pocket paperback one) of that last one gets released as two-volume sets per book.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Suplex Liberace posted:

i heard in korea the books are sold like that, in easy to hold parts.

They stole that technology from Finland. That's what the war was over.

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

German publishers sometimes do that with dumb long fantasy books like Game of Thrones but it's just to make twice the money.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

IMHO, no book should be over 350 pages. Well maybe a dictionary or some catalogue.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??


this is insanely based

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

anything that de-decorizes books as prestige objects is ftw im afraid

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

what

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

You heard me. Beat up those books. Throw em at the wall, bury them in a bag beneath heavy groceries. Dog ear your place

Except for library books, be kind to them of course

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

be kind, rebind

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

love reading books

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Mandoric posted:

lol

but also in east Asia in general, not necessarily wrong, when mass-market paperbacks get over 250-300 pages they tend to just get split up into different volumes for binding/portability/marketing reasons. Japanese Das Kapital in paperback tends to be either 9 or 13, for example, or on the complete other end SF long-runners like Wheel of Time or ASoIaF get three, five, or even eight paperbacks per book that drop every month or two.

Hell, even the TPB/hardcover (not sure which is is tbh, just definitely not the pocket paperback one) of that last one gets released as two-volume sets per book.

sounds way better other than paying for more books

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

I did a bookbinding apprenticeship when I left school & this just seems wrong on so many levels.

At least rebind them you loving savage!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Trainee PornStar posted:

I did a bookbinding apprenticeship when I left school & this just seems wrong on so many levels.

At least rebind them you loving savage!

My brother apprenticed at a bookbinder in the 1980s so we had hard-bound volumes of all the Tintin and Lucky Luke albums.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

3D Megadoodoo posted:

My brother apprenticed at a bookbinder in the 1980s so we had hard-bound volumes of all the Tintin and Lucky Luke albums.

your brother has good taste in cartoons

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

AnimeIsTrash posted:

Started reading Bill Haywood's autobiography. It's long as hell but really good.

This is really good especially when he starts talking about how he got into unions. Nice to bring back union men getting into gun fights with the company reps.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Been reading the Brezhnev book Gradenko excerpted some time ago. Good job on that, I feels like most everything else is filler. Western academy gets pretty insufferable when writing about the USSR, even when they're doing a generally good job. What's re-Stalinisation even supposed to be? What is rehabilitating the dude supposed to do in the real world?

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



I just eat the page when I'm done reading it, makes lunch breaks efficient and leaves nothing to rebind at the end.

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
I've been trying to read all the Greg Egan books I haven't yet and just started "Zengedi." The bit were he codes an Iranian politician as one of the good ones by saying they support the recognition of the state of Israel did not age well at all and now a scene later a conservative Iranian is in a sex scandal from sleeping with a trans women. Ugh, I dunno. With every other work of Egan's I've been captivated from paragraph one.

To whoever has read this book, does it get better once the science-fiction elements start showing up?

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nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

Yadoppsi posted:

I've been trying to read all the Greg Egan books I haven't yet and just started "Zengedi." The bit were he codes an Iranian politician as one of the good ones by saying they support the recognition of the state of Israel did not age well at all and now a scene later a conservative Iranian is in a sex scandal from sleeping with a trans women. Ugh, I dunno. With every other work of Egan's I've been captivated from paragraph one.

To whoever has read this book, does it get better once the science-fiction elements start showing up?

I loved Egan's early work. What his later work like? I see he's self publishing a lot.

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