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Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Eat My Fuc posted:

there wasn't the level of heat of say Omega kicking out at 1 on the golden trigger. The move was loving insane it made no thematic sense to have someone kick out like it was a piss ant move if you're going to end it with a regular rear end chair shot.

if an avalanche tombstone should have ended the match, why would a chairshot to the head to add on to the damage done by the avalanche tombstone not have ended it?

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Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




Eat My Fuc posted:

there wasn't the level of heat of say Omega kicking out at 1 on the golden trigger. The move was loving insane it made no thematic sense to have someone kick out like it was a piss ant move if you're going to end it with a regular rear end chair shot.

It's the move that lost MJF the match. He almost had it until he hosed up his knee on the tombstone and couldn't pin, or even beat, a still-concious Sammy.


Also, Spears is a chair specialist. His chairshot should be like a Jake Roberts short-arm clothesline.

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

Dimebags Brain posted:

How dare you call a chair shot from Shawn "The Chairman" Spears a regular rear end chair shot!

i'm willing to concede maybe his chair shots are OP

dromal phrenia
Feb 22, 2004

the avalanche tombstone was not enough to put sammy away. But then he continued to wrestle and endure more pain, and then he ate a chair shot to the same head that he was piledriven upon, and that was just too much at that point

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug

KungFu Grip posted:

should have kicked out of one chair shot if his head could take an avalanche tombstone imo

but it was a chair from the chair dimension

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



KungFu Grip posted:

should have kicked out of one chair shot if his head could take an avalanche tombstone imo

He would've been able to if he hadn't taken an avalanche tombstone. After that, his head icon turned red, and welp.

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY

Eat My Fuc posted:

because the structure of the match until that point and the level of wear they were selling it didn't match what they were portraying at all, it was a huge spot for the sake of a huge spot and didn't lead to anything.

That’s just, like, your opinion man

Fake edit: gottem

Joey McChrist
Aug 8, 2005

we've got 7 foot dinosaurs and people from chair dimensions walking around things don't have to "make sense"

Jackie D
May 27, 2009

Democracy is like a tambourine - not everyone can be trusted with it.


KungFu Grip posted:

should have kicked out of one chair shot if his head could take an avalanche tombstone imo

He couldn't take the chair shot because of the avalanche tombstone

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
tbh i thought mjf was gonna tap out sammy with the salt of the earth when they mentioned sammy had a bum arm

Jackie D posted:

He couldn't take the chair shot because of the avalanche tombstone


i think sammy's head and neck is stronger than that

Destroy My Sweater
Jul 24, 2009

wwe diamante

Tweak
Jul 28, 2003

or dont whatever








They shoulda dumped the feed like JR said a cuss

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

we can agree to disagree obviously. i just think rare as hell moves should be protected especially incredible dangerous ones like that.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

I will say, if they were going to go with "Sammy kicked out because MJF took too long to cover due to his hurt knee", MJF should have taken much longer to go for the cover.

xbilkis
Apr 11, 2005

god qb
me
jay hova
The story of the match is that a second rope piledriver is less effective than a standard piledriver. More time for the recipient of the attack to brace themselves and tuck their head. MJF got greedy with the razzle-dazzle

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug

KungFu Grip posted:

tbh i thought mjf was gonna tap out sammy with the salt of the earth when they mentioned sammy had a bum arm

i think sammy's head and neck is stronger than that

they were talking about jericho

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Kunabomber posted:

but it was a chair from the chair dimension

It was also made of Chair-tanium. Stronger than steel!

Cael
Feb 2, 2004

I get this funky high on the yellow sun.

Kunabomber posted:

but it was a chair from the chair dimension

Just image someone very quickly says the word "chair" right before anytime they said "dimension"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjJ7KCBykVU

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Hayden Christensen posted:

wow, pandemic AEW is over

Natalie Portman: And the pandemic is over too, right!?!

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

see if MJF took tutelage from Chuck Taylor, the master of the piledriver, he would know that you just keep hitting them with piledrivers repeatedly until they don't kick out

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.
i've never seen MJF do an avalanche tombstone so it's possible he performed it incorrrectly, mayhaps he "didn't get all of that one", as his technique was poor which is supported by the leg injury he sustained

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

Kunabomber posted:

they were talking about jericho

They mentioned Sammy's when he rolled to the apron before the Heat Seeker

Dimebags Brain
Feb 18, 2013





Eat My Fuc posted:

i'm willing to concede maybe his chair shots are OP

Guy's gimmick is "I hit you with chair" and he ain't dancing like La Parka, you gotta give him something!

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
oh yeah was that a 630 that sammy did too

Oil!
Nov 5, 2008

Der's e'rl in dem der hills!


Ham Wrangler

Eat My Fuc posted:

i'm willing to concede maybe his chair shots are OP

They should ban them

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

xbilkis posted:

The story of the match is that a second rope piledriver is less effective than a standard piledriver. More time for the recipient of the attack to brace themselves and tuck their head. MJF got greedy with the razzle-dazzle

That's actually a good point. Lots of times wrestlers dont do the move that will most efficiently get them the 3. They also want to show off and show they are better. And lots of times it bites you in the rear end.

Eat My Fuc
May 29, 2007

KungFu Grip posted:

oh yeah was that a 630 that sammy did too

yea and i also didn't like that kick out! should have saved the rope break save for that one imo

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karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
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