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whats for dinner
Sep 25, 2006

IT TURN OUT METAL FOR DINNER!


Gets even better when you find out that the dingbat mentioned at the end of the article who tried to (and possibly did) attend and tested positive shortly after hasn't been isolating:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/man-turned-away-from-protest-tested-positive-for-covid-the-next-day-20210730-p58efc.html

quote:

The Granville man was on his way to the protest when he was met by officers from the Police Transport Command, who found him in breach of the stay-at-home orders. He was issued with a $1000 penalty infringement notice and directed to return home.

The man tested positive to COVID-19 on Sunday and was required to self-isolate. However, when police attended the man’s home on Friday to conduct a compliance check he was not present.

A NSW Police statement said officers were initially told the man was at a worksite in Parramatta before he was allegedly found in another home - not his own - at Constitution Hill.

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Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Oh for the love of gently caress

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
just a flu bro whats the big deal

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


We need the Mexican Luchadores but instead of masks its vaccines.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Sportsbreak for the socialist, communist, unamerican women's soccer team!

The game was pretty frustrating, as the USA had like 3 goals called back for offsides, it got pretty comical. Pretty clear that the star of the game was the goalkeeper, who played out of her goddamn mind:

https://twitter.com/USWNT/status/1421111429541732356?s=19

The entire team was about a step off, Rapinoe included, then the Head Commie took her PK:

https://twitter.com/USWNT/status/1421105624167845892?s=19

The pose at the end is going to make so many conservatives mad :laugh:

TCD
Nov 13, 2002

Every step, a fucking adventure.

pantslesswithwolves posted:

You’re 100% right about the pandemic continuing and also that the mask guidance shouldn’t have been lifted until kids could get vaccinated as well. That’s part of why I’m so pissed that we’re having to do this again. Whole lotta people in government and industry desperately wanted to declare victory over COVID and walking it back sure must suck.

My work is talking about bringing back international work travel as soon as September and I’d rather resign first.

With international travel, there's no way this isn't the new normal. The US only has about 50% flu shot rate, we're going to be with COVID for a long time. I just hope my kid can get a jab soon so the family has a best shot at avoiding serious illness.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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I'm still waiting for the public at large to realize that we are gonna be getting boosters for the rest of our lives. Mentioned it to the lady who works at my local corner store, and she was extremely upset by the thought, even tho she had already resigned herself to having to mask back up.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

RFC2324 posted:

I'm still waiting for the public at large to realize that we are gonna be getting boosters for the rest of our lives. Mentioned it to the lady who works at my local corner store, and she was extremely upset by the thought, even tho she had already resigned herself to having to mask back up.

It's likely, but the science really hasn't been settled yet on the really long-term implications. There have been a few quasi-speculative studies that those with a natural infection *and* two doses of mRNA might be good for a very, very long time. Others have proposed that the two-dose mRNAs could actually be three doses for long protection, similar to childhood vaccines that last for several years.

From what I gather, there's no real way to "age" or simulate aging, so the scientists just have to gather the data live. We just don't know if we're going to be getting yearly COVID shots, or every 6 months, or every 5 years, or Delta-tailored vaccines.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418

facialimpediment posted:

It's likely, but the science really hasn't been settled yet on the really long-term implications. There have been a few quasi-speculative studies that those with a natural infection *and* two doses of mRNA might be good for a very, very long time. Others have proposed that the two-dose mRNAs could actually be three doses for long protection, similar to childhood vaccines that last for several years.

From what I gather, there's no real way to "age" or simulate aging, so the scientists just have to gather the data live. We just don't know if we're going to be getting yearly COVID shots, or every 6 months, or every 5 years, or Delta-tailored vaccines.

My guess is that we will have boosters for 5-10 years while they get variants under control and nail down the science into a final form of the vaccine that will be longer lasting.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Let's check on William H. Macy

quote:

Schanda Handley was at home with her daughter and a neighbor when two men showed up at the door, dressed in what looked like blue uniforms from an appliance store.

They had a carpet steamer and asked Ms. Handley if they could demonstrate it for her. When she said no, the men forced their way into her house at gunpoint, put a hood over her head and handcuffed her and her neighbor, she said.

The kidnappers had been hired by Ms. Handley’s estranged husband, Lawrence Michael Handley, who was planning to have Ms. Handley driven to his camp near Woodville, Miss., from her home in Lafayette, La., prosecutors said. What he planned to do after that was not clear, the authorities said.

But as the men drove east on Interstate 10 on Aug. 6, 2017, with Ms. Handley handcuffed in the back, sheriff’s deputies noticed the van was swerving and tried to stop it, prosecutors said.

The men, Sylvester Bracey and Arsenio Haynes, drove off the interstate, turned down a dead-end gravel road, and were penned in by the police, prosecutors said. Both men tried to escape by swimming through a canal, prosecutors said. They drowned.

On Monday, nearly four years later, Mr. Handley, 53, pleaded guilty to two counts of second-degree kidnapping and one count of attempted second-degree kidnapping, prosecutors said. He faces 15 to 35 years in prison. A sentencing date has not been set.

quote:

A once successful businessman, Mr. Handley had run software and vitamin businesses and had been the chief executive of a series of drug treatment centers that sold in 2015 in a deal worth about $21 million, Ms. Handley said.

He subjected Ms. Handley to hundreds of threats, once telling her “Armageddon is coming,” as they went through a divorce, she said. For two months, she said, she had live-in security at her house.

“I knew he was coming to get me,” she said.

Mr. Handley’s lawyer, Kevin Stockstill, said in an interview that his client had been using methamphetamine and cocaine for days when he hatched the plan to have his wife kidnapped. He said that Mr. Handley had planned to “come in as a hero” and rescue Ms. Handley in an effort to “win her back.”

“It was certainly not logical thinking, but when you’re doing a lot of meth and cocaine, I guess it seemed rational to him,” Mr. Stockstill said. “It turned out to be a terrible decision.”

Detective Jared Istre of the Lafayette Police Department, who investigated the case, found video of Mr. Handley planning the kidnapping as well as checklists that he had made and evidence showing that he rented the van and bought the handcuffs used by the two kidnappers, prosecutors said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/30/...-breadth_append

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

RFC2324 posted:

I'm still waiting for the public at large to realize that we are gonna be getting boosters for the rest of our lives. Mentioned it to the lady who works at my local corner store, and she was extremely upset by the thought, even tho she had already resigned herself to having to mask back up.

I already get a flu shot every year. Dunno why the idea of boosters is so terrifying to folks who would otherwise be fine with getting a vaccine.

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

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Fallom posted:

I already get a flu shot every year. Dunno why the idea of boosters is so terrifying to folks who would otherwise be fine with getting a vaccine.

Most people really really hate shots to the point they don't get annuals like the flu shot. I generally avoided it before (because it didn't sound like herd immunity applied and it was never spelled out, this has changed) even tho I don't have an active problem other than making time for it, and literally just discovered that I am at least a decade overdue for my tdap booster

I am not unusual in this stuff

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

TCD posted:

With international travel, there's no way this isn't the new normal. The US only has about 50% flu shot rate, we're going to be with COVID for a long time. I just hope my kid can get a jab soon so the family has a best shot at avoiding serious illness.

My agency has been talking about returning people to the field and reestablishing our international presence. One of the major parts of the feasibility of this is whether or not the people going to the field are vaccinated, but the high transmissibility of Delta even by vaccinated people is likely going to upend that (and it should.) So much of the world is still struggling with like 2% vaccination rates so introducing someone who could potentially be an asymptomatic spreader would be a huge moral issue in addition to being a potential PR disaster if someone could make the case that they were linked to a localized outbreak.

I’m also having a hard time with this way of thinking:

https://twitter.com/evanhill/status/1420943285548376069

If the qualifier of a mild case is the metric of “not being hospitalized and being put on supplemental o2” but doesn’t take into account long COVID or potential cognitive decline then we are in for some rough loving years. The tweets FI posted earlier are a little reassuring but I’m not feeling much else than a bit crushed by recent developments.

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender
I'm convinced when mRNA matures, you'll be able to get custom tailored booster shots for a variety of things all at once, so at least it probably won't be a lot of shots.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

pantslesswithwolves posted:

If the qualifier of a mild case is the metric of “not being hospitalized and being put on supplemental o2” but doesn’t take into account long COVID or potential cognitive decline then we are in for some rough loving years. The tweets FI posted earlier are a little reassuring but I’m not feeling much else than a bit crushed by recent developments.

I'll add a bit more here:

https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1421095045931970570

https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1421094615663456257

https://twitter.com/ScottGottliebMD/status/1421123686975819783

The old CDC recommendation (vaccination --> no mask) made three general assumptions: 1) the vaccinations work extremely well and prevent infection, 2) vaccinations turn those breakthrough infections into a mild flu, 3) and the limited breakthroughees are less likely to infect others due to less viral loads. What appears to be going on is #1 is being absolutely confirmed, though maybe at the 85% level instead of 90% due to Delta (at worst, 60% if you believe the outlier Israeli data). #2 is also being confirmed, if possible even *moreso* as per Gottlieb, hella people are being infected and don't know it - the vaccines are kicking everything down a notch in the asymptomatic/slight cold/mild flu/severe flu/hospitalization/death curve. #3 is now complete garbage due to Delta - breakthroughees are barfing out as much COVID as the unvaccinated, when with the Alpha strain that wasn't the case.

Everyone is freaking the gently caress out, thinking that the disproving of #3 means that #1/#2 are no longer correct, and that's not what the data says. The vaccines are still magic. In the (now slightly-higher) chance that you get a breakthrough infection, you're still far better off.

As a reference point, when I was hospitalized over the weekend, I was asked about my vaccination status (oddly, never got carded - maybe they checked through my doctor's records), had to wear a mask in common areas, then the nurses didn't give a flying gently caress if I wore my mask in my room or not. Administration staff, nurses, techs - nobody cared even as they were all up in my poo poo, though they all had standard surgical masks on. I got my first-ever swab up the nose when it was time to full-blown admit me. The big change going forward is that in a follow-up surgery, I'll have to wear a mask the whole time because of #3, or maybe I get a COVID swab sooner. My mild freakout - that's in 3+ weeks and I'm in a low-transmission, high-vaccine county with plenty of hospital space... *now*.

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 30, 2021

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Nate's also been an rear end in a top hat troll lately, but he's succinct and correct here. "Vaccinated people can easily transmit Delta" is not the news today, it's instead "Vaccinated breakthroughees can transmit Delta at the same rate as unvaccinated, but they are still less likely to catch it in the first place."

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1421154988206825472

Have some Grandpa Joe.

https://twitter.com/andyharnik/status/1421153383050846209

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2021/07/senate-approves-july-30-2021-as-national-whistleblower-appreciation-day/

Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jul 30, 2021

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008


Imagine being a White House aid who has spent their entire career climbing the rungs of power to get to this position and NOT throwing it all away at the opportunity to write “Mr. President, you have BOFA on your chin.”

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Even if Nate is a stopped clock on this one people should just ignore his rear end on every opportunity that's anything about medicine.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Hey man we've had Labor Day, Veterans Day, Christmas, and Easter and we never gave a poo poo who those were about either.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS
I remember a few years ago the annual flu shot was extra viscous and was painful to get because it felt like (literally was) sludge being pushed into your arm. Haven't felt that since so maybe they learned.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
https://twitter.com/BurgerPilled/status/1420966234821218311?s=19

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

That Works posted:

Even if Nate is a stopped clock on this one people should just ignore his rear end on every opportunity that's anything about medicine.

I've completely stopped defending Nate, but on the whole right now it's not medicine, it's numbers. It appears the whole of American Media is having Trouble With Denominators because of this whole thing, plus the Israel data:

https://twitter.com/larry_levitt/status/1421177313446694915?s=19

According to the media right now, if Big Number x 0.1 > Little Number x 0.5 then AAaaAaaAAAaa THE VACCINES AREN'T WORKING

Provincetown was apparently something like 75% vaccinated, so due to simple math, of course a hella lot of vaccinated people are going to catch COVID in a citywide equivalent to a cruise ship. The CDC is changing stances because those vaccinated breakthroughees are barfing COVID as much as the unvaccinated infected, which wasn't the case until recently.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy



Wow

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002




:patriot:

boop the snoot
Jun 3, 2016
That’s the bow on top of Bin Laden’s win imho

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

boop the snoot posted:

That’s the bow on top of Bin Laden’s win imho

"America, LLC" got exactly what they wanted out of Afghanistan - and Iraq. We're *purposely* dragging our feet on bringing over the Afghan nationals who aided us, for two reasons: the longer we wait, the less we'll have to manage, and "America, LLC" must always ensure a healthy crop of scary brown people with grudges to bomb in the future from now on, whenever it's politically expedient to have a convenient enemy that will play along.

At any time, Biden could grant these people Honorary Citizenship just to GET THEM OUT OF THAT HELLHOLE, but because it's only ever been used for the likes of Winston Churchill and Mother Teresa, :decorum:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_citizenship_of_the_United_States

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 30, 2021

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Needs a Kelly-esque cloud in the sky with Ho Chi Minh and Fidel giving a thumbs up.

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously


That's like in Korea when Marines were getting shot at by American made Thompsons, often wielded by former Nationalist troops who had (not always voluntarily) switched teams.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


facialimpediment posted:

The pose at the end is going to make so many conservatives mad :laugh:

why

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Everything makes conservatives mad these days.

"You have Splenda instead of Nutrasweet? COMMUNISM! :bahgawd:"

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

https://twitter.com/kennuck/status/1420776906618654720?s=19

https://twitter.com/RainOfSteel/status/1419283610801115143?s=19

It's like if sportsball's Hillary Clinton dunked on Tom Brady then told everyone that bulletproof coffee is for sissyboys that can't shoot straight.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


I didn't really see a pose at the end... ?

Did I miss something? Rapinoe is a boss imo

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


That Works posted:

I didn't really see a pose at the end... ?

Did I miss something? Rapinoe is a boss imo

It's really fast, but she hops around and crosses her arms and leans back a bit.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

how many fully kitted rifles and NVGs did we leave?

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

oh gently caress the taliban learned how to blouse their boots

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


CainFortea posted:

It's really fast, but she hops around and crosses her arms and leans back a bit.

I'm totally clueless. What does that mean?

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


That Works posted:

I'm totally clueless. What does that mean?

I'm assuming "Look how smug she is, poor sportsmanship!"

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

CainFortea posted:

It's really fast, but she hops around and crosses her arms and leans back a bit.

Best I got due to the lack of photographers at the thing - she nails the PK and

https://twitter.com/KaraMarie117/status/1421132852108869635?s=19

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Holy poo poo

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