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leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
I'm sure Crypto Dot Com is gonna really open up the purse springs for a dude who's literally forced to endorse their product already

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Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



You might find it is actually very easy to open up your purse strings, when that purse contains a fake largely unusable currency that you invented and can generate at will

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Bluedeanie posted:

You might find it is actually very easy to open up your purse strings, when that purse contains a fake largely unusable currency that you invented and can generate at will

^^^

This news coming off the back of molenkamp thing is interesting though.

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006

CarlCX posted:

It's really hard to say "the UFC was less lovely towards its fighters back in the old days" when people were getting threatened with termination if they didn't fight with crippling injuries, and yet, somehow, they keep finding ways

Yeah, every now and then someone misses the Joe Silva days, when it has been revealed he was shittier on the fighters than Dana, he just kept out of the public eye.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Dana invented mma in his basement 5 years ago

https://twitter.com/FullContactMTWF/status/1412808905755828226?s=19

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1412856039385489410?s=21
VIOLENCE PLEASE

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

https://vine.co/v/ODpVamupXA5

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon



dont believe his lies

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.






Feels like a someone tipping over a filing cabinet to trip up pursuers after "UFC partners with fly-by-night crypto market; pays fighters in exposure"

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Brut posted:

The Monster deal is the same way, right?

More or less. I think the fighters who get a Monster logo get a pay out, but only them. And I haven’t seen any transparency on how someone gets the logo.

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



nick is going to murder robbie, folks. absolutely brutal violence imo

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.
doesn't nick know there's easier ways to make money these days than fighting robert lawler?

also same question names reversed

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

Isn't "In the works" usually code for Dana sent a lowball offer to both fighters and they haven't accepted it yet so he's trying to get fans to pressure them on social media

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Nick said he'd never fight robbie again

Nierbo
Dec 5, 2010

sup brah?

Orange Carlisle posted:

Isn't "In the works" usually code for Dana sent a lowball offer to both fighters and they haven't accepted it yet so he's trying to get fans to pressure them on social media

This guy gets it!

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

More or less. I think the fighters who get a Monster logo get a pay out, but only them. And I haven’t seen any transparency on how someone gets the logo.

Most of what I know about the Monster deal comes from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJIaMTTkF1E and the reaction to it.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

that's not good for


your head noo

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

cisneros posted:

Yeah, every now and then someone misses the Joe Silva days, when it has been revealed he was shittier on the fighters than Dana, he just kept out of the public eye.

Dana willing acts as the lightning rod for everything good and bad. Apparently fans are dumb enough to send death threats to people who fill in for him every now and then at weigh ins and stuff.

Not defending him but he's not 100% responsible for everything good or bad with the ufc he's just happy for everyone to think he is.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


YTMND of Nick Diaz saying "they're sellin' y'all wolf tickets"

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
TUF Recap!

Episode 6: Let the Games Begin

Team Volkanovski finally has a win! That means Ortega is ready to freakin prank, bros. First prank is a 2-part prank (Classic prank set-up)

1. Put Volkanovski's car up on blocks outside the gym
2. Tie horses and donkeys to a tree outside the gym and put Team Volkanovski jerseys on them

EPIC PRANKAGE, MY DUDES!

Ortega says this translates to "shut the gently caress up". ok. Volko thinks it's hilarious.

Ricky Turcios home movie!

Ricky is out of Houston, Texas. He met his girlfriend of 7 years teaching BJJ, so that's nice. His mom is from the Phillipines, and he's proud of his heritage. Ricky trains out of Gracie Barra The Woodlands. Ricky fought on the Contender Series in 2017 against Boston Salmon, but didn't get the win or the contract.

Dan Argueta Fight Prep

The talk about Ricky's awkward style, and that Dan needs to stay calm and not get drawn into a fire fight.

Argueta looks a lil like a young Frank Shamrock to my ruined brain.

Dan Argueta home movie!

Dan is in LA, but originally trains out of New Mexico. Dan also trains out of a Gracie Barra affiliate.

Ricky Turcios fight prep!

Ricky thinks his main advantage is being comfortable fighting anywhere. Ricky says he's going to freestyle and flow in the cage, making for a banger with Dan. Ricky is looking forward to unleashing his signature move after the fight, the Hadouken.

Today's The Ultimate Fighter Flashback is....

Hey! Remember that time Marlon Sims and Noah Thomas had a backyard fight? Remember how Dana yelled that it was awful and disgusting? Well, check it out, here's that moment as hype and promotion! gently caress YEAH!

Guys, there are like 25 minutes left in the episode and we are at Fight Day. I think this thing is going looooooong. Dan shows off his dream journal, which is basically a mantra of "You are a laser-focused killing machine. You will destroy him". You know, totally normal things.

Tale of the Tape

Ricky Turcios
Age: 27
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 134.5lbs
Reach: 72"

Dan Argueta
Age: 27
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 135.0lbs
Reach: 70"

Round 1!

Both guys throwing some body kicks. Dan with a little flurry of hooks on the inside. Ricky with a "blooga-blooga" from range which does not draw a reaction from Argueta.

Ricky with a body kick-jab combo that he spams like 3 times in a row. Dan with another flurry. Ricky catches Dan coming in with a solid jab. Ricky drops down, Dan grabs a front headlock. Ricky pushes him to the fence, lands some elbows to the side of the head.

Ricky connecting with good straight punches, but Dan keeps moving forward. Clinch on the fence, Dan drags him to the ground. Ricky goes for a triangle, Dan defends, goes for a guillotine, Ricky escapes. Round ends with both dudes punching each other in the face. Very close round! Maaaaaaybe Dan by slim margins, but I can see it for Ricky just as well.

Round 2!

Ricky pushes Dan to the fence, lands some knees to the body. Dan breaks free and they reset in the center of the cage. Ricky forces Dan back again, Dan looks for a single leg, Ricky with some elbows to the head.

Dan looking for more clinches, but can't get a take down. Both guys landing solid punches to the face. These dudes are just trading back and forth. Dan gets a takedown, but Ricky goes for a triangle. Dan escapes, stuck in full guard.

Ricky tries to stand, rolls for a leg. Round ends with Ricky punching Dan in the leg. Another very close round. I dunno! Uhhhh, Dan maybe? Again, this could be 20-18 either dude, but overall, I'd say it is 19-19.

Round 3!

Dan shoots, Ricky defends. Ricky shoots, Dan looking for a guillotine, but doesn't have anything. Dan briefly looks for a wristlock, but can't isolate. Dan tries to get to his feet, but Ricky is trying to take his back. Ricky gets Dan's back and locks up a body triangle. Dan defends well, but Ricky eventually gets an arm across the neck. Dan escapes, looks for a guillotine, but doesn't get it. Round ends with Ricky throwing ground and pound and Dan launching upkicks. Round should go to Ricky

Winner, Ricky Turcios! Team Volko is now 2-4, baybeeeeeeee. Really good bout.

Fight selection!

Brady Hiestand vs Josh Rettinghouse

Pro tip when fighting Josh Rettinghouse, based on the 1 fight of his I've seen: Kick him in the leg until his leg dies.

reeg
Jul 5, 2002


Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





Hell yeah CM Punk is good again. 0-1-1 now baybeeeeee!

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1412928355612209154?s=19

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


UFC 264: Breaking it down like an MMA fighter’s financial wellbeing

:smith:

I absolutely listened to Jack Slack’s breakdown before I wrote this one, so I’m not going to be able to avoid having his analysis seep in. Listen to his podcast – it’s pretty good.



Main Card (PPV)
Lightweight Main Event Dustin Poirier vs Conor McGregor
Poirier is a pretty heavy favourite here among goons in this rubber match. Like 7 years ago, at featherweight, McGregor threw a hook around Poirier’s shell guard and got the KO en route to becoming Mystic Mac. A few months ago, Poirier chopped up McGregor’s leg and then countered his famous straight left with a right hook and put him right out. What will happen this time? Poirier is probably the more sophisticated striker now , and his growth since the first match is among the best in the sport, comparable only to current lightweight champ Charles Oliviera and middleweight top dog Robert Whittaker during that time.

I’m leaning toward Poirier too, but Slack observed that McGregor has an opportunity to exploit a hole in Poirier’s shoulder roll/shell defense if he starts working body kicks like he did earlier in this career. Either way, lots of money being made on this fight.

Welterweight Gilbert Burns vs Stephen Thompson
Burns is coming off of the wrong end of a nearly flawless performance in his title shot against Kamaru Usman. Meanwhile, Thompson is easily the best guy who hasn’t yet faced Usman, even though his extremely slow matches against Woodley mean that he has a longer road to the title than most.

I don’t like this match for Burns. He gets lots of credit for his highly improved striking, but he only outstruck Woodley and Maia, right? Woodley got outstruck by Colby loving Covington since then. And Thompson is absolutely the best striker in the division. Heck, he has a case for being the best striker in any division. Burns, however, still has his jiu jitsu, if he can get his takedowns going.

Heavyweight Tai Tuivasa vs Greg Hardy
Uhhh Greg Hardy failing upwards I guess? At least as far as his card billing goes? Hardy is a woman-beating ex NFLer who has more match-ending/ruining cheating than anyone I can think of in the entire history of the UFC. His last match had him gas out and lose by fat wrestling and ground and pound to Marcin Tybura. Tuivasa is a fat Aussie who drinks out of a shoe. He is mostly just a brawler. I think he’s coming off of a win? Idk his UFC record is around 0.500 with losses to people like Sergei Spivak. Not too much more to say here. Neither of these guys has any chance of ever winning a title.

Bantamweight Irene Aldana vs Yana Kunitskaya
This is probably closer to a title shot, sadly. Aldana is a decent Mexican boxer, with demonstrated KO power, but she got outworked by Holly Holm in a 5 round slog that cost me a prob bet on its entertainment value back in October. Kunitskaya has two consecutive wins against Ketelen Viera and Julija Stoliarenko. She’s supposedly a striker but she has shown a willingness to wall and stall her opponents. She’s also the highest ranked bantamweight who hasn’t fought Nunes.

Bantamweight Sean O’Malley vs Kris Moutinho
O’Malley is a smooth-striking skinny boy with glass bones. The UFC seems to think he’s the next big thing, but he needs to start winning fights instead of getting his rear end kicked and making his excuses. He was supposed to fight someone else but that guy got injured, so they brought in Moutinho – a guy making his UFC debut - as a last-minute replacement. I’m a fan of the tune-up fight, though, so it’s not all bad. This could very well produce a good highlight, or a memorable upset.

Prelims ESPN/ESPN+
Welterweight Carlos Condit vs Max Griffin
Condit is the former buzzsaw blood god WEC and Interim UFC champion. His fight with Robbie Lawler is one of the best in UFC history. He’s a high-activity kickboxer with a crazy guard… and no counter wrestling. But he has faded since his peak due to age and injury. Max Griffin is a mostly-forgettable journeyman who has been hovering around the bottom quartile of the division for ages. He has a punch, and he has a wrestle. He’s good enough to be a threat to Condit 2021, but I don’t think that he has anything for even a glimpse of the Condit of days past.

:siren:Welterweight Niko Price vs Michel Pereira
Ahhh now here’s the kind of nonsense that we’re here for. Niko Price is known for goofy rear end KOs. His most recent fight was a point-deduction draw vs Cowboy. That’s bad? Well Pereira managed to lose (by DQ) to Diego Sanchez recently. His last fight though was a good decision win over Khaos Williams, and before that an impressive scramble-RNC win over Zelim Imadaev. Both of these guys are pure chaos and weird poo poo is almost bound to happen.

:hmmyes:Ryan Hall vs Ilia Topuria
Hall is an elite-elite grappler who nobody wants to fight, and when he rarely gets a fight booked someone gets injured. It’s a treat just to have him back in the cage. The pressure is on, and he has very little to gain with a lot to lose against the dangerous Topuria, who doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page to go with his two UFC wins over competent opposition. He’s a Spanish-Georigan grappler and he’s highly regarded if relatively unknown. Oh, and both of these guys are undefeated, so that’s fun.

Middleweight Driscus du Plessis vs Trevin Giles
Du Plessis is a South African who won his UFC debut by KOing Markus Perez (the joker makeup guy) in 1 round in October. Trevin Giles is a middling middleweight wrestleboxer whose best win is against James Krause on extremely short notice with Krause moving up a weight class. That’s a good fight! Anyway he’s on a 3-fight streak now, with Roman Dolidze being his most recent. Gonna be some punches flying in this fight, too.

Early Prelims ESPN+/Fight Pass
Flyweight Jennifer Maia vs Jessica Eye
Oh god why. The battle of women who lost to Valentina. Maia is a BJJ fighter with no striking to speak of, and who is renowned for missing weight, split decisions and never finishing anyone except Joanne Calderwood. Jessica Eye is best known for being like the only person who Valentina has ever KOed despite her reputation as a knockout artist. Eye has been in some fun fights, but only when she has a dance partner who pushes her, and that ain’t Maia.

:siren: I’ll try to remember to keep this feature going in my breakdowns: this is the fight to skip if you need to get melty cheese / weed / booze / porn. In fact, I’ll revive my prob bet from the Irene Aldana fight: If someone misses this fight because of this disclaimer and it ends up earning a performance bonus, I’ll eat a 24h prob with the worst thirst trap picture of Jessica Eye that anyone can find.

Middleweight Omari Akhmedov vs Brad Tavares
Akhmedov is one of those Dagestani dudes who looks like he’s a million years older than he actually is. He’s a wrestley Dagestani guy. He’s also like the only opponent who Chris Weidman has beaten in the last forever. His last time out he embarrassed Tom Breese. Brad Tavares is a very well rounded gatekeeper journeyman. This is a decent fight, though it’s more of a fight-night midcarder in my mind than it is a PPV undercard.

Flyweight Zhalgas Zhumagulov vs Jerome Rivera
Zhumagulov is a Kazakh Fight Nights global veteran with an 0-2 UFC record vs guys who I don’t know. Rivera is a 0-3 UFC contender series product who is probably getting paid in the UFC’s new cryptocurrency, though at least two of his losses are to Figgy Smaller and Tyson Nam.

Middleweight Alen Amedovski vs Yaozong Hu
Who? Yaozong is a Chinese fighter with a 3-2 record and a 0-2 UFC record since 2017 against frankly bad opposition. Amedovski is a (North) Macedonian fighter based in Italy with a 0-2 UFC record, including a 14 second KO loss to a brawler who got stomped by Khamzat and who has a 1-5 UFC record. Yeesh. This simply should not be on a UFC card.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
I will never believe in Michel Pereira after his awful loss to Tristan Connelly

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


leftist heap posted:

I will never believe in Michel Pereira after his awful loss to Tristan Connelly

that was awesome but I decided to leave it out

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Untrustable posted:

Hell yeah CM Punk is good again. 0-1-1 now baybeeeeee!

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1412928355612209154?s=19

Lmao, incredible

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Untrustable posted:

Hell yeah CM Punk is good again. 0-1-1 now baybeeeeee!

https://twitter.com/MMAjunkie/status/1412928355612209154?s=19

Wait.... so Jackson absolutely loving clowned on Punk for the entire fight AND he was stoned while doing it? :lol:

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

even if this was true, hasn't nick been like partying his rear end off and getting drunks for years? this is gonna be like chuck/tito 3 if it happens.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
also price vs. pereira is a must-watch fight. it's going to be really stupid in some way or another.

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

yay ryan hall finally gets a fight

also sean o malley might be the worst loser in history but it's probably a bit harsh to say he needs to stop getting his rear end kicked when it happened one time and there were like 4 or 5 fancy looking KO wins around it but i understand, he is intensely lame

Southpaugh
May 26, 2007

Smokey Bacon


Foul Fowl posted:

even if this was true, hasn't nick been like partying his rear end off and getting drunks for years? this is gonna be like chuck/tito 3 if it happens.

yeah but nick has habitually stayed in shape too I don't think he would look cooked coming out and like, its nick. hes always ready to go.

o malley moves laterally to his right and his knee disintegrates into keef and falls and keeps falling until theres only a pile of versicolour keef in the centre of the octagon. O'Malley wins the fight by decision despite being a pile of weed blowing around the octagon.

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





Jerusalem posted:

Wait.... so Jackson absolutely loving clowned on Punk for the entire fight AND he was stoned while doing it? :lol:

Jackson was hopped up on the devil's lettuce. Poor CM Punk, warrior of god, would never touch the tosca, even to level the playing field. The infernal powers bestowed upon Jackson by blazing the cotorrito surely made him an invincible opponent.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Untrustable posted:

Jackson was hopped up on the devil's lettuce. Poor CM Punk, warrior of god, would never touch the tosca, even to level the playing field. The infernal powers bestowed upon Jackson by blazing the cotorrito surely made him an invincible opponent.

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?

Southpaugh posted:

yeah but nick has habitually stayed in shape too I don't think he would look cooked coming out and like, its nick. hes always ready to go.

man i hope so, i love rematches that happen an insanely long time after the first fight and i want it to be competitive (but i want robbie to win)

Brut
Aug 21, 2007

Has this card not fallen apart yet?

I'll try to have the goonweight form up as soon as the weigh ins make it clear that nobody on the main is missing.

I don't mean missing weight, I mean literally missing.

FishBowlRobot
Mar 21, 2006



Southpaugh posted:

O'Malley wins the fight by decision despite being a pile of weed blowing around the octagon.

He look like a clown. Clown Weed.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


brian posted:

yay ryan hall finally gets a fight

also sean o malley might be the worst loser in history but it's probably a bit harsh to say he needs to stop getting his rear end kicked when it happened one time and there were like 4 or 5 fancy looking KO wins around it but i understand, he is intensely lame

It has happened twice. The first time his opponent, Andre Soukhamthath, was too oblivious to notice that he had broken O'Malley's leg and instead went for a takedown. Against nearly any other opponent, the outcome of the Vera fight would have repeated. This means that his leg has broken in a full third of his UFC fights. And he made enough excuses after the Vera fight to shame a Gracie. I'm not going to let him off the hook for that as a whole, particularly because he's getting the full hype train/media treatment. If a fighter is going to stand in the spotlight where we can see them clearly, I'm going to call out what I see.


Somehow I forgot about the Thomas Almeida fight. I did most of that breakdown from memory. I also remembered and correctly spelled Andre Soukhamthath's name from memory :smugdog:

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Volko posted a story on IG that him and Craig Jones found Ortega's keys during TUF and were going to do a car prank, but a producer said they couldn't mess with Ortega's car (even though Ortega put Volko's car on blocks previously)

So Volko and Jones just post a pic of them holding the keys, and per Volko, Ortega throws a hissy fit and wants to fight Jones

PRANKZ, BAYBEEEEEE

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


LobsterMobster posted:

Volko posted a story on IG that him and Craig Jones found Ortega's keys during TUF and were going to do a car prank, but a producer said they couldn't mess with Ortega's car (even though Ortega put Volko's car on blocks previously)

So Volko and Jones just post a pic of them holding the keys, and per Volko, Ortega throws a hissy fit and wants to fight Jones

PRANKZ, BAYBEEEEEE

Lol does Ortega have a special car or something?

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brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

oh yeah my bad i forgot that was the reason he disappeared for a while after his debut and DWCS thing

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