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https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/h...ness+Insider%29Business Insider posted:2 men are claiming to be Haiti's prime minister after the country's president was assassinated
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https://twitter.com/HaitiInfoProj/status/1413160810327670789?s=20 https://twitter.com/madanboukman/status/1413161059167375360?s=20
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Jul 8, 2021 16:45
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So I'm guessing this new interim guy is the one being championed by whatever faction in the security blob is responsible for the assassination
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Jul 8, 2021 16:49
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/HaitiInfoProj/status/1413160810327670789?s=20 Respect to good old Cincinnatus Leconte only former-Haitian president to be the uncle of the only black man who died during the Titanic's maiden voyage. He only died when the ammunition storage exploded. Still claims of assassination. vvvvvvvvvv that's because i miss remembered it, it's his nephew who died in the Titanic, Cincinnatus died in an explosion. Sounds like a ck2 murder attempt really. Toplowtech has issued a correction as of 07:24 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 17:01
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Toplowtech posted:Respect to good old Cincinnatus Leconte only former-Haitian president to die during the Titanic's maiden voyage. Holy poo poo I never heard that before
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Jul 8, 2021 18:07
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Retarded Goatee posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/07/assassination-its-president-puts-haiti-risk-anarchy-un-must-intervene/ Chicago demands international intervention then, Autocrat Lightfoot belongs in a jail cell.
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Jul 8, 2021 18:09
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It's still speculation but looking increasingly like a palace coup, Moise killed by his own mercenaries to keep up the veneer of democracy that makes these puppets useful. I bet it was also preempting the new PM coming in so that Claude Joseph can fill the vacuum and get some show elections set up. The US/OAS is good at orchestrating sham elections in Haiti, like they did to force Martelly onto the Haitian people.
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Jul 8, 2021 21:33
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Could not think of who would do this in any at all, truly a mystery. Inasmuch as I cannot think think this could be an act of alien actors. Anyways why are we accusing all these foreign intelligence agencies of this? Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 21:41 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 21:37
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did he come out with plans to nationalize healthcare or any industries or any program to make working people's lives easier?
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Jul 8, 2021 21:40
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no, he was a hand-picked US puppet who overstayed his welcome. His term ended months ago and he was ruling by decree like a dictator.
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Jul 8, 2021 21:45
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Crowsbeak posted:Could not think of who would do this in any at all, truly a mystery. Not that I would in any way put it past the CIA since I'm sure they've almost certainly assassinated Haitian presidents before, but I haven't heard jackshit about Haiti in the news or among the chattering classes generally. Like, I could buy that it was us but usually something as big as an assassination has a media campaign preceding it so that we know that the person we killed was very bad.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:03
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You don't hear about Haiti in the news because they don't have a government that defies the US like Cuba Venezuela Nicaragua Iran do. Once the resistance is out of power, they point the lights of the media elsewhere. Same reason you don't hear about Libya post-Ghadaffi, even though it's become a failed state with open slave markets. That doesn't mean the CIA has no interests there, it just means it's best to leave the gruesome chaos that keeps any people-first government from taking power in complete darkness while the US exploits anything of value.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:11
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1413214506466086916
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Jul 8, 2021 22:20
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Fast Luck posted:You don't hear about Haiti in the news because they don't have a government that defies the US like Cuba Venezuela Nicaragua Iran do. Once the resistance is out of power, they point the lights of the media elsewhere. Same reason you don't hear about Libya post-Ghadaffi, even though it's become a failed state with open slave markets. That doesn't mean the CIA has no interests there, it just means it's best to leave the gruesome chaos that keeps any people-first government from taking power in complete darkness while the US exploits anything of value. Right. They just usually let us know that one particular foreign leader or another is bad before they get zapped. NY Times and WaPo publish sweaty thinkpieces lamenting the state of democracy in Haiti, talk about corruption and a crime epidemic, etc, etc. I don't put it outside the realm of possibility that the CIA killed him, but the groundwork hasn't been laid with the public which makes that feel a little off.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:23
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Zeroisanumber posted:Right. They just usually let us know that one particular foreign leader or another is bad before they get zapped. NY Times and WaPo publish sweaty thinkpieces lamenting the state of democracy in Haiti, talk about corruption and a crime epidemic, etc, etc. How much of this is due to trump taking up so much of the media attention and covid over the past year?
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Jul 8, 2021 22:25
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I think it's just likely whoever was in charge of running this guy for the CIA doesn't do that anymore and now sometimes restructuring. My guess is on the Prime Minster who shouldn't be the prime minister anymore
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Jul 8, 2021 22:27
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typical american exceptionalism thinking that noone else could possibly assassinate a political figure but the cia
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Jul 8, 2021 22:57
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https://twitter.com/haitiantimes_/status/1413241509558767619?s=21
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Jul 9, 2021 00:01
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had napoleon decided to break with france's past and welcomed haiti as brothers in freedom, he would not have lost the mandate of heaven. he would have crushed the british at waterloo and ruled all of europe.
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Jul 9, 2021 02:55
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or maybe imperialism mandated he require sugar to sell in order to fuel his army. napoleon slave-freer alt-history is bleh because it ignores material and economic forces
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Jul 9, 2021 03:20
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1413321635512283140?s=20 allegedly a lot of people killed the president of Haiti
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Jul 9, 2021 03:24
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Americans and Columbians. I wonder who coulda done it....
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Jul 9, 2021 03:40
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Jul 9, 2021 03:41
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were they trying to get caught
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Jul 9, 2021 03:53
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i wonder if Colombia would've been a wannabe continental hegemon if Uncle Sam wasn't around. Their Iraq and Afghanistan would be Venezuela and Haiti
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Jul 9, 2021 04:14
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america as a global hegemon can only just exert itself upon those states, and even we inevitably gave in on afghanistan. i think colombia attempting the same would end quite poorly for them
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Jul 9, 2021 04:22
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Maximo Roboto posted:i wonder if Colombia would've been a wannabe continental hegemon if Uncle Sam wasn't around. Their Iraq and Afghanistan would be Venezuela and Haiti Bolivarists would have probably realized his dream of making Columbia, Venezuela, and others into one country
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Jul 9, 2021 04:23
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i say swears online posted:or maybe imperialism mandated he require sugar to sell in order to fuel his army. napoleon slave-freer alt-history is bleh because it ignores material and economic forces Yeah but Napoleon himself fell into that trap as he kept thinking he should have accepted Toussaint's deal after he lost everything.
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Jul 9, 2021 04:58
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Maximo Roboto posted:i wonder if Colombia would've been a wannabe continental hegemon if Uncle Sam wasn't around. Their Iraq and Afghanistan would be Venezuela and Haiti Colombia is so militarized because of its role in US imperialism. The US helped train anti-FARC forces, and since the end of the civil war a lot of those guys are on the market to fight elsewhere. The UAE hired a bunch to fight in Yemen. They've also been involved in harassing the Venezuelan border. Brazil has almost half of the population of South America. It'd be the better candidate for continental hegemon.
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Jul 9, 2021 05:12
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it was the UAPs
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Jul 9, 2021 06:25
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In a way, we all did.
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Jul 9, 2021 07:32
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KillerQueen posted:In a way, we all did. *Sympathy for the devil starts playing*
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Jul 9, 2021 07:42
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Atrocious Joe posted:Colombia is so militarized because of its role in US imperialism. The US helped train anti-FARC forces, and since the end of the civil war a lot of those guys are on the market to fight elsewhere. The UAE hired a bunch to fight in Yemen. They've also been involved in harassing the Venezuelan border. Yeah absent U.S. imperialism Colombia probably wouldn't be as right-wing as it is now. I do wonder if some countries in that region have stronger chauvinist, pro-interventionist streaks compared to their neighbors, though. Brazil also gets points for speaking a different language from all of its neighbors, like America does. The hegemony of the other.
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Jul 9, 2021 08:12
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Maximo Roboto posted:Yeah absent U.S. imperialism Colombia probably wouldn't be as right-wing as it is now. I do wonder if some countries in that region have stronger chauvinist, pro-interventionist streaks compared to their neighbors, though. Toplowtech has issued a correction as of 10:47 on Jul 9, 2021 |
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Jul 9, 2021 10:30
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1413321635512283140?s=20 28 Cololmbian mercs huh? Maybe Maduro was onto something, just mixed which president they were there to kill... https://twitter.com/teleSURtv/status/1411139410150760449
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Jul 9, 2021 13:12
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Maximo Roboto posted:Yeah absent U.S. imperialism Colombia probably wouldn't be as right-wing as it is now. I do wonder if some countries in that region have stronger chauvinist, pro-interventionist streaks compared to their neighbors, though. Oh certainly. Consider that both Venezuela and Colombia can claim Bolivar who made his life as a warlord of South America who was quite fine double dealing to with Spain and the British empire to maximize his power at the expense of other, more forthright revolutionaries and his death after embarking on a full conquest of the other new policy’s of the firmer Spanish Empire. I could definitely see either
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Jul 9, 2021 14:17
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a bunch of them tried to hide out in the Taiwanese embassy https://twitter.com/amyyqin/status/1413442413809475589?s=20
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Jul 9, 2021 16:19
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Woops
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Jul 9, 2021 19:12
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Atrocious Joe posted:a bunch of them tried to hide out in the Taiwanese embassy
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it's stunningly sloppy for a successful assassination, why would you pile into a largely rural country with a team in the double digits and then announce your presence through a bullhorn after firing off dozens of rounds into the home of the country's president, and not have anything resembling an escape plan to the point that a bunch of dudes in the countryside can just pick you up and throw you onto the back of a truck? i'd almost suspect it was on purpose if a bunch of them hadn't ended up getting murked
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