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Butterfly Valley posted:My mum fancied him a lot when he managed City and tbh I think he's got even better with age He does somehow look younger than at City Mancini is like the other end of the "so loving Italian" scale from Sopranos style fat balding Spaghetti eaters, just a stylish suave man that can power a team to a title through style and hand gestures Lol that City got rid of him
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Probably the correct decision. He would never have delivered the champions league.
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ozmunkeh posted:Probably the correct decision. He would never have delivered the champions league. Neither has Pep, maybe he would have?
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:He does somehow look younger than at City I’ve made this claim in a few of the serie a threads in whatever years he was back in Italy managing: I don’t think Mancini has been a great club manager since he was at City. Certainly he has been great as Italy manager tho. I’ve always respected how suave and attractive he is tho lol.
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Alctel posted:A perfectly hit penalty is basically impossible to save even for the best goalkeeper, but hitting it perfectly involves ignoring the rest of the players, the crowd, the millions watching on TV and the mental 6'+ guy dancing around on his line and staring daggers at you I know I’m double posting but I’m on mobile and can’t deal with the copy paste thing: I love pens. I don’t get all the hate for them. Tons of drama, and I don’t believe it’s all luck…tons of skill and strategy involved.
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grvm posted:I know I’m double posting but I’m on mobile and can’t deal with the copy paste thing: I love pens. I don’t get all the hate for them. Tons of drama, and I don’t believe it’s all luck…tons of skill and strategy involved. Professional footballers are all good enough at football that penalties are 90% mental. That's what makes them so good. You take two teams that couldn't be separated by two hours of actual football, and put them through a process where whichever team is mentally tougher wins.
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vyelkin posted:Professional footballers are all good enough at football that penalties are 90% mental. That's what makes them so good. You take two teams that couldn't be separated by two hours of actual football, and put them through a process where whichever team is mentally tougher wins. I agree with you. Anytime a game comes to pens I hear tons of grief about pens being a bad way to decide a game, that’s what I don’t agree with.
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It's both better and worse than endless golden goal. Watching people run into the floor is its own sort of fun. I ain't a great fan of the hyperfocused foot on the line rule though. Let the guy move a few milliseconds early, the world won't end.
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Pens are interesting but imo ET and pens should be a rare exception of how a game gets settled. We had four penalty shootouts this Euros — the most in tournament history. In these games the ET mostly went to poo poo because teams played conservatively and figured they would rather gamble at the shootout than risk conceding a goal. The rules should strongly induce teams to wrap things up in normal time. Maybe we clamp down more on cynical fouls. Maybe we tinker with the number of subs or whatever.
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23 man squad, 11 starters, 5+1 subs or w/e the gently caress. Leaves 6. One goalie, five peno-boys.
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Vegetable posted:Pens are interesting but imo ET and pens should be a rare exception of how a game gets settled. There was a sub change, remember that you’re allowed another one in extra time. I think that’s good and should have made it more positive but it looks like most managers saved it for PK’s.
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Go back to a replay in the event of a draw is my new stance
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In extra time scoring should change to Gaelic football rules, lets see how conservatively you play when if an attack breaks down the opposition can just leather it over the bar for 1/3rd of a goal
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grvm posted:I’ve made this claim in a few of the serie a threads in whatever years he was back in Italy managing: I don’t think Mancini has been a great club manager since he was at City. Certainly he has been great as Italy manager tho. I’ve always respected how suave and attractive he is tho lol. You’re totally right, I remember his return to Inter made them poo poo enough that i could still make fun of them while Milan was also horrible.
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:Neither has Pep, maybe he would have? wait are you telling me city haven't won the champions league?
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The best penalty taker of all time (at least in the English leagues) is Matt Le Tissier, who used to bang in it either corner every time. 47/48 pens scored over his career and it was the exact same pen repeated.
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I want to try and take a peno vs a proper keeper now
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Bape Culture posted:I want to try and take a peno vs a proper keeper now same tbh. I've scored in casual league futsal shootouts to win trophies before and the pressure even then is immense, against a professional keeper with a real sized goal would be fun as hell as a skill test
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Bape Culture posted:I want to try and take a peno vs a proper keeper now I've taken one against Nick Colgan (ex Hibs keeper. If you can call Scottish football real football). The goal seems very small when you are faced with a 6ft+ professional keeper.
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Here is what a hockey penalty looks like when you go for max power. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GY_bAyzDvs
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CyberPingu posted:I've taken one against Nick Colgan (ex Hibs keeper. If you can call Scottish football real football). The goal seems very small when you are faced with a 6ft+ professional keeper. did you score
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Sphyre posted:did you score I did not.
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CyberPingu posted:I did not. Sorry to hear that was he just not into you? Haha
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They should prob still try to sort out the massive advantage of winning the coin flip and going first confers in pens, was the ABBA experiment given up on?
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Jul 13, 2021 11:02
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Has there been any statistical analysis of penalty shoot outs won by the team going first or second?
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Flayer posted:Has there been any statistical analysis of penalty shoot outs won by the team going first or second? Yes going first is an advantage
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Flayer posted:Has there been any statistical analysis of penalty shoot outs won by the team going first or second? Going first gives you 60/40
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Flayer posted:Has there been any statistical analysis of penalty shoot outs won by the team going first or second? lots but with mixed results: Marca goes with the 60% of teams going first win the shootout (this was 100% in the Championship just finished): https://www.marca.com/en/football/uefa-euro/2021/07/12/60ec363622601d8c1d8b4594.html This piece says that the team of the captain who won the coin toss (only 56% of whom elected to kick first) won 60% of their shootouts and implies that playing to your advantages (like if you have a badass keeper and you want to put the other guys off) is more of a factor than just going first https://theconversation.com/euro-2020-penalty-shootouts-can-be-won-or-lost-on-a-coin-toss-163039 This is a study of alternative penalty formats (I've not read more than the abstract) https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10288-020-00439-w
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What if for pens each team gets to pick the other team’s 5.
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Blasmeister posted:They should prob still try to sort out the massive advantage of winning the coin flip and going first confers in pens, was the ABBA experiment given up on? I think they gave it up because it was too new and confusing for dullards
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https://twitter.com/EURO2020/status/1414881871167688707?s=19 Team of the euros
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Blasmeister posted:They should prob still try to sort out the massive advantage of winning the coin flip and going first confers in pens, was the ABBA experiment given up on? Wouldn't that give Sweden an unfair advantage?
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It's baffling that they had to ditch a solid idea because the idea of alternating between going first and going second was just too confusing for people?? fans?? pundits?? I don't even know whom.
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Offside is a pretty simple concept and there is a whole cultural thing about people struggling to understand it. People are really dumb. Making them think, or just pay attention to an explanation, is doomed to fail
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Jul 13, 2021 12:12
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Football was perfect when I was 11 and any rule introduced since is bollocks
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goatface posted:Offside is a pretty simple concept and there is a whole cultural thing about people struggling to understand it. Offside is a simple concept but the rules are far from simple and half the time I don't loving know if it's offside anymore.
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CyberPingu posted:Offside is a simple concept but the rules are far from simple and half the time I don't loving know if it's offside anymore. It doesn’t seem like there’s many rules regarding offside? Beyond the second to last defender, played by the attacking team, it’s offside?
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