CSPAM Central Civilizational Collapse Compilation

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > CSPAM Central Civilizational Collapse Compilation

«‹›4 »

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

I hope the moon pulls a Majora's mask on us

# ? Jul 15, 2021 13:09

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Apr 28, 2024 04:16

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

Ronwayne posted:

Much like how capitialism offers 200 different kinds of breakfast cereal, c-spam does the same for flavors of doom.

Those you mentioned were the Pedo, Cop, and Wildfire(berry) flavors. This one would be chocolate (that is the color of the water).

Not only that, but there is a synthesis between every different flavor that we can add up to determine the shape of the doom.

# ? Jul 15, 2021 14:11

Oolb: Nov 18, 2019

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

the one thing that gives me any sort of hope is that the people in charge of anything that might stop a revolution aren't the steely eyed cold warriors knocking over governments for more blow for their weird wife swap parties, but their drooling failsons' drooling failsons whose greatest aspirations are to make a 25k like tweet and drink a celebratory green smoothie about it. everyone at every level and lever of power is so loving stupid and shortsighted that as soon as the american working class gets actually organized they'll be up against the weakest, fattest, dumbest opposition in the history of capitalism

against the weakest, fattest, dumbest, most heavily armed in all of human history opposition, also, versus the weakest, fattest, dumbest, resistance whose idea of power is: trucks, mcdonalds, and ok guns but there are no blacks or queers at the top; or twitter folk who think power and organization are inherently fascist.

# ? Jul 17, 2021 21:52

Toph Bei Fong: Feb 29, 2008

quote:

The United Red Army (連合赤軍, Rengō Sekigun) was a militant organization, that operated in Japan between July 1971 and March 1972.

[...]

The United Red Army had 29 members and lost 14 by killing them in less than a year. Most were members of the New Left.

[...]

Training and treatment of members

Soon after the United Red Army�s formation, two members originally from the Revolutionary Left deserted the group. In order to make an example of the defectors, Nagata arranged their murders with the assistance of other URA members.[9]

In December 1971, by the order of their leader Mori, the URA moved its headquarters to the training camps that the Red Army Faction had previously made use of. Aside from the preparation of their next movements and missions, the group underwent a process known as �self-criticism�, a ritual that had become normalized among Left groups in Japan at the time.[9] The original intention of this practice was to allow members of the group to strengthen their alignment with the values and purpose of the cause.[6]

However, Mori quickly introduced an element of violence to this process in keeping with the New Left�s demand for individuals to demonstrate their commitment. The purpose of this violence against members was to test their devotion to the cause. Mori argued that beating members into unconsciousness would allow for them to be reborn with true "communistic subjectivity" when they were brought back to consciousness.[4] Members of the URA expressed their concerns to Mori regarding this practice and the unpredictability as to the consequences of beatings, unsure of an exact way to achieve sending a member into unconsciousness.[3] As such, it was through this process that several group members were killed.

Two members originally from the Revolutionary Left were the first victims of self-criticism. Kato Yoshitaka was selected for self-criticism as he had spoken to police during an earlier interrogation, and Kojima Kazuko for lacking the ability to fight her �bourgeois thinking�.[4] Initially the pair were refused food, and from the 26th to the 27th of December Kato was tied up and beaten by group members.[3] Kojima was also beaten by group members. As Kato had not lost consciousness during the beatings, Mori concluded that he had not achieved self-criticism and so he was tied to a post outside in the harsh mountain climate to suffer further beatings. Once the leaders Nagata and Mori were satisfied that Kato had achieved self-critique he was brought inside. However, he died from his injuries on the 4th of January 1972.[4] This was not before another member, Ozaki Mitsuo, was killed in the self-critique process initiated against him on the 28th of December that resulted in his death two days later.[3]

These violent beatings ultimately saw the death of 12 members of the URA who had been deemed not sufficiently revolutionary. Many of the twelve victims died tied to posts in the open, exposed to the elements, but others were beaten to death or slaughtered with knives. The last death occurred on the 12th of February. The bodies of the victims were buried in the woods nearby their mountain camp.[3]

Fall

The police were able to trace the URA to their mountain hideout. In the surrounding areas, they located the bodies of members that had fallen victim during sessions of self-criticism.

In early February 1972, Mori and Nagata took a trip to Tokyo. Whilst they were away, several URA members took the opportunity to desert the group. On 15 February, remaining group members discovered that police were aware of their whereabouts which led them to leave their training base.[3] During their escape, two members were arrested. Mori and Nagata were also arrested upon return to the base to determine whether any group members remained.[8] The members that had fled the training base took a dangerous route through the mountains to Nagano prefecture in order to avoid leaving traces of footsteps and the strong odor of dead bodies that they carried due to lack of bathing facilities.[4] The following day, the group members split into two groups. One group arrested was shortly after at Karauizawa train station, having been reported by members of the public as suspicious due to their �bedraggled� look.[4]

The remaining group, consisting of five members, were chased by police into a lodge at the base of Mount Asama. Here the members took hostage of the lodge keeper�s wife.[8] A nine-day siege ensued which saw the mountain sealed off and 3 000 riot police on scene. The police did not close in on the group despite several exchanges of gunfire in order to protect the hostage.[8] Before the police cut off power to the lodge after a few days, group members watched media coverage of the siege on TV.[4] On the 28th of February, the tenth and final day of the incident, the police brought in a wrecking ball to destroy the entrance of the lodge and fired water mixed with teargas into the building to assist police in their room-by-room search.[8] After a battle that lasted eight hours and saw two police killed,[4] the members and their hostage were found taking shelter behind a mattress on the top floor of the building.[8] This event was viewed by 90% of Japan's television screens and became known as the Asama-Sanso incident.

Public perception

Initially after the siege, public perception of the group was markedly less negative than what it would become. In the month following the Asama-Sanso incident, there was significant coverage relating to the interrogation of group members. With police having provided information about the group�s killings, media communicated an image of the URA that associated �armed resistance with the murder of comrades�.[6] This saw a shift in public perception.[8] This sentiment was conveyed by a student who was interviewed for one of Japan�s most noteworthy news publications, the Asahi Shimbun. This student remarked "When they were captured without being completely defeated, I thought that they were definitely revolutionaries, and I felt a sense of resistance when adults labelled them a crazed group. But I can�t understand the logic of the lynchings. I lost the will to defend them".[3] Further, another student reported "Although I am, if anything, right wing, I understand the United Red Army members� feelings ... Whichever way you look at it, Japan resembles a police state. In challenging the system, their battles have to take such [combative] forms".[4]

Convictions

In the initial stages of the investigation, group members refused to give information to police. Mori wrote to police in the month following the Asama Sanso incident to take responsibility for the killings and to ask for the group members bodies to be returned to their families. This was interpreted as an act of weakness by other members of the group, who felt betrayed given that Mori had punished other members for more trivial matters.[3] Following his speaking up, other members began to co�perate with police by providing statements. Each group member was given two options to choose from in how they could be tried by the courts. He or she could remain as in the collective and face a group trial given that the crimes were committed together, or be tried individually although this would result in being perceived as a traitor.[3] Seven members, including Mori, opted to be tried together. However, Mori committed suicide in prison on 1 January 1973 before making it to trial. Bando, one of the seven who had opted to be tried as a group, was released by authorities before trial at the demand of the Japanese Red Army (JRA). The JRA also demanded the release of Sakaguchi; however, he chose to remain to face trial,[3] Another two of the seven defected before trial, leaving only Nagata, Sakaguchi and Uegaki to face collective trial. Nagata and Sakaguchi were ultimately sentenced to death, whilst Uegaki received a 20-year sentence.[3]

Nagata died on 5 February 2011 from brain cancer while still being held in a detention facility. As of 2013, Sakaguchi is still alive in prison after an unsuccessful appeal of his sentence.[10]

# ? Jul 17, 2021 22:05

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288

We're gonna see a bipartisan push for euthanasia, 'voluntary' from the succ in coming years as a result of this plague during our downward spiral into barbarism.

# ? Jul 19, 2021 12:03

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

living through history owns

# ? Jul 19, 2021 12:27

fanfic insert: Nov 4, 2009

StratGoatCom posted:

Not only that, but there is a synthesis between every different flavor that we can add up to determine the shape of the doom.

the Dr Pepper of doom.

# ? Jul 19, 2021 12:43

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

StratGoatCom posted:

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288

We're gonna see a bipartisan push for euthanasia, 'voluntary' from the succ in coming years as a result of this plague during our downward spiral into barbarism.

i dont think is too far off. you can see this sentiment bubbling up here and there even on these forums. i can even feel it a bit lurking in the corners of my own brain.

# ? Jul 19, 2021 19:45

Ronwayne: Nov 20, 2007; That warm and fuzzy feeling.

I saw too many of those people, even coworkers, when I was in social services. People just thinking "You annoy me, therefore you should die" to those least able to defend themselves from it.

Ronwayne has issued a correction as of 22:17 on Jul 19, 2021

# ? Jul 19, 2021 21:43

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/KateandCRPS/status/1417353421347250176

I ain't exaggerating that that poo poo was gonna be bipartisan, or pushed.

This hits really hard as a disabled person too, I might add.

quote:

i dont think is too far off. you can see this sentiment bubbling up here and there even on these forums. i can even feel it a bit lurking in the corners of my own brain.

May be worth broaching making it probe-a-ble with the other buttonhavers.

# ? Jul 20, 2021 17:26

staticman: Sep 12, 2008; Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao

Please don't pooping into fish, it kills them.

https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1417222099022778368

# ? Jul 21, 2021 06:50

Bored Online: May 25, 2009; We don't need Rome telling us what to do.

StratGoatCom posted:

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288

We're gonna see a bipartisan push for euthanasia, 'voluntary' from the succ in coming years as a result of this plague during our downward spiral into barbarism.

rahm emmanuel�s brother is already writing op eds about this

# ? Jul 21, 2021 06:56

Strep Vote: May 5, 2004; أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

StratGoatCom posted:

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288

We're gonna see a bipartisan push for euthanasia, 'voluntary' from the succ in coming years as a result of this plague during our downward spiral into barbarism.

It rhymes, louder and dumber each time.

# ? Jul 21, 2021 07:00

Strep Vote: May 5, 2004; أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Smythe posted:

i dont think is too far off. you can see this sentiment bubbling up here and there even on these forums. i can even feel it a bit lurking in the corners of my own brain.

Kill the fascist in ur head every day.

# ? Jul 21, 2021 07:02

Private Cumshoe: Feb 15, 2019; AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

I don't want people to die

I just don't want to get in like a car accident away from my medical records and health care directive telling ppl to pull the goddamn plug if I have like no more than a couple days to live but uh let's keep them alive to see if we can maybe make a more ethical decision later after 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities

tl;dr put a microchip in me with my health care directive idgaf at this point everyone wants to die and I don't want to live in 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities after a car accident where my health care directive is not readily available

Euthanasia loving owns

# ? Jul 28, 2021 07:54

MSDOS KAPITAL: Jun 25, 2018

StratGoatCom posted:

May be worth broaching making it probe-a-ble with the other buttonhavers.

*out of breath rushing into QCS from Discord* No. Thread locked.

# ? Jul 28, 2021 08:01

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

Private Cumshoe posted:

I don't want people to die I just don't want to get in like a car accident away from my medical records and health care directive telling ppl to pull the goddamn plug if I have like no more than a couple days to live but uh let's keep them alive to see if we can maybe make a more ethical decision later after 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities

tl;dr put a microchip in me with my health care directive idgaf at this point everyone wants to die and I don't want to live in 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities after a car accident where my health care directive is not readily available

Euthanasia loving owns

The issue is that there is a perverse incentive to pressure the disabled, the unpopular and the livable but expensive to treat to take that instead; this has been a real world problem in the Neatherlands.

https://medium.com/@flaviadzodan/euthanasia-as-a-dutch-neoliberal-success-story-23c0a1e13940

It's classic neoliberalism, using social pressure and market forces to achive just as oppressive an effect as gross state power. I mean, look at the post upthread about how it is in beaverland. It is undeniable that there would be a strong economic incentive to push for this.

TL;DR, euthanasia is another thing capitalism ruined.

StratGoatCom has issued a correction as of 12:15 on Jul 28, 2021

# ? Jul 28, 2021 12:12

Private Cumshoe: Feb 15, 2019; AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

It's depressing that it's an impossible issue for the law to deal with, and that the reality of social pressure means economic factors will dominate anyway

I just hope someone has the courage to do the right thing if I'm being tortured much longer than I need to be because some rear end in a top hat doctor or whoever calls zygotes babies

# ? Jul 28, 2021 18:01

WorldsStongestNerd: Apr 28, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

Euthanasia good if that's what you want. Bad if somebody is coercing you.

Unfortunately this can't be squared in a capitalist system, because there's money to be saved by convincing people to log off.

# ? Jul 28, 2021 21:10

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1420764473036582921

This is something to be viewed with some alarm, as there is a genuine risk of a collapse of order in the states as a result, if this happens under some models.

A temporary collapse of order in the states knocks at least 5 years off the collapse timeline, at least. I ain't even getting into a more lasting one.

# ? Jul 29, 2021 17:51

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/smdiehl/status/1422514498250940416

It goes into a bit of detail for the parallels between the Albanian pyramid schemes and crypto.

A further potential kindling to the fire, as it's impossible to know how many yanks have exposure here, let alone elsewhere; with ETH on sced for a POS conversion q4-q1, crypto is already on a fuse of uncertain length.

StratGoatCom has issued a correction as of 19:34 on Aug 3, 2021

# ? Aug 3, 2021 19:27

Nonsense: Jan 26, 2007

staticman posted:

Please don't pooping into fish, it kills them.
https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1417222099022778368

people in florida also unload their black-tanks from their yachts close to shore all the time

# ? Aug 3, 2021 19:32

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

Nonsense posted:

people in florida also unload their black-tanks from their yachts close to shore all the time

cruise ships do this as well

# ? Aug 3, 2021 19:32

ekuNNN: Nov 27, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

https://twitter.com/guardianeco/status/1423302411792179210

# ? Aug 5, 2021 20:36

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

ekuNNN posted:

https://twitter.com/guardianeco/status/1423302411792179210

Owned

# ? Aug 5, 2021 21:02

Hubbert: Mar 25, 2007; At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

all i can say is:

lol

Hubbert has issued a correction as of 05:21 on Aug 6, 2021

# ? Aug 6, 2021 05:16

ekuNNN: Nov 27, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1424687732367007747

# ? Aug 9, 2021 17:45

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

ekuNNN posted:

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1424687732367007747

Voting worked comrades

# ? Aug 9, 2021 21:51

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1424035730897129481?s=20

sure is!

# ? Aug 9, 2021 23:39

Wakko: Jun 9, 2002; Faboo!

no that's our present

# ? Aug 9, 2021 23:42

wisconsingreg: Jan 13, 2019

Smythe posted:

i dont think is too far off. you can see this sentiment bubbling up here and there even on these forums. i can even feel it a bit lurking in the corners of my own brain.

Yup, look how popular denying medical care to anti-vaxxers is already. Like I hate them too, but if that aint a slippery slope...

# ? Aug 9, 2021 23:47

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

it's not

# ? Aug 10, 2021 00:57

Private Cumshoe: Feb 15, 2019; AAAAAAAGAGHAAHGGAH

Vasukhani posted:

Yup, look how popular denying medical care to anti-vaxxers is already. Like I hate them too, but if that aint a slippery slope...

I think you'll find people are being denied medical care regardless of their beliefs about vaccines

# ? Aug 10, 2021 05:51

wisconsingreg: Jan 13, 2019

Private Cumshoe posted:

I think you'll find people are being denied medical care regardless of their beliefs about vaccines

Oh yeah. But there are a ton of libs just desperate to decide who a useless eater is, luckily non of them seem to be health care professionals...

# ? Aug 10, 2021 06:08

tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.

Vasukhani posted:

Oh yeah. But there are a ton of libs just desperate to decide who a useless eater is, luckily non of them seem to be health care professionals...

Lol doctors and nurses love eugenics, almost as much as they do unethical medical experiments

# ? Aug 10, 2021 06:42

Fluffy Bunnies: Jan 10, 2009

I dunno. Someone shot the gently caress out of our power substation and the power company fixed it after 5 or 6 hours. So sometimes they fix stuff a little bit.

On the other hand, I'm aware of a rural bridge that's been out for at least three or four years now and they just put up a sign instead of fixing that.

E: https://goo.gl/maps/REwv4D2RT7gR5CaX8 this is what the bridge looked like in 2009 and it definitely should have been allowed to look like that, ever.

Fluffy Bunnies has issued a correction as of 06:59 on Aug 10, 2021

# ? Aug 10, 2021 06:57

MLSM: Apr 3, 2021; by Azathoth

Just two days after the IPCC report:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/11/as-gas-prices-rise-white-house-says-opec-action-is-simply-not-enough-calls-for-ftc-scrutiny.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXqPNlng6uI

# ? Aug 11, 2021 17:18

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1425629659342024708

An elaboration on previously made points.

# ? Aug 12, 2021 02:38

indigi: Jul 20, 2004; ^{how can we not talk about family

when family's all that we got?}

stretch Armstrong Twitter account

# ? Aug 14, 2021 02:52

Adbot: ADBOT LOVES YOU

# ? Apr 28, 2024 04:16

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1431066157595996164

Inflection point get.

# ? Aug 27, 2021 02:55

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > CSPAM Central Civilizational Collapse Compilation

«‹›4 »