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StratGoatCom
Aug 6, 2019

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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1414067782178775042

ITT: We discuss the ongoing, currently catabolic breakdown of the infrastructure of society because our overlords are too cheap to pay to keep anything working.

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Pentecoastal Elites posted:

the one thing that gives me any sort of hope is that the people in charge of anything that might stop a revolution aren't the steely eyed cold warriors knocking over governments for more blow for their weird wife swap parties, but their drooling failsons' drooling failsons whose greatest aspirations are to make a 25k like tweet and drink a celebratory green smoothie about it. everyone at every level and lever of power is so loving stupid and shortsighted that as soon as the american working class gets actually organized they'll be up against the weakest, fattest, dumbest opposition in the history of capitalism

if there's enough of a biosphere to actually matter at the end of it all remains to be seen though

As ever, the salvation of civilization is a race between the failsons turning everything into coke and the few people trying to organize the revolt needed to take control while there's still something left to save.

StratGoatCom has issued a correction as of 03:58 on Jul 13, 2021

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Aug 6, 2019

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xw3x/new-research-vindicates-1972-mit-prediction-that-society-will-collapse-soon

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A remarkable new study by a director at one of the largest accounting firms in the world has found that a famous, decades-old warning from MIT about the risk of industrial civilization collapsing appears to be accurate based on new empirical data.

As the world looks forward to a rebound in economic growth following the devastation wrought by the pandemic, the research raises urgent questions about the risks of attempting to simply return to the pre-pandemic ‘normal.’

In 1972, a team of MIT scientists got together to study the risks of civilizational collapse. Their system dynamics model published by the Club of Rome identified impending ‘limits to growth’ (LtG) that meant industrial civilization was on track to collapse sometime within the 21st century, due to overexploitation of planetary resources.

The controversial MIT analysis generated heated debate, and was widely derided at the time by pundits who misrepresented its findings and methods. But the analysis has now received stunning vindication from a study written by a senior director at professional services giant KPMG, one of the 'Big Four' accounting firms as measured by global revenue....

...Herrington’s new analysis examines data across 10 key variables, namely population, fertility rates, mortality rates, industrial output, food production, services, non-renewable resources, persistent pollution, human welfare, and ecological footprint. She found that the latest data most closely aligns with two particular scenarios, ‘BAU2’ (business-as-usual) and ‘CT’ (comprehensive technology).

“BAU2 and CT scenarios show a halt in growth within a decade or so from now,” the study concludes. “Both scenarios thus indicate that continuing business as usual, that is, pursuing continuous growth, is not possible. Even when paired with unprecedented technological development and adoption, business as usual as modelled by LtG would inevitably lead to declines in industrial capital, agricultural output, and welfare levels within this century.”

Study author Gaya Herrington told Motherboard that in the MIT World3 models, collapse “does not mean that humanity will cease to exist,” but rather that “economic and industrial growth will stop, and then decline, which will hurt food production and standards of living… In terms of timing, the BAU2 scenario shows a steep decline to set in around 2040.”...

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https://www.npr.org/2021/07/14/1015800103/a-study-predicts-record-flooding-in-the-2030s-and-its-partly-because-of-the-moon

Given the aforenoted cheapness and escalating climate, this may well shave at least a few years off the timeline before civilization significantly destabilizes, as it will disrupt several supply chains and may contribute to internal and international refugee numbers. One of the bigger factors in catabolic collapse is that the slack in the system used to have that allowed it to recover has not been maintained.

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indigi posted:

yeah ok all of a sudden the Moon is doing global warming now

More that moon weirdness mixed with global warming is not a combo we wanna see.

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Aug 6, 2019

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Ronwayne posted:

Much like how capitialism offers 200 different kinds of breakfast cereal, c-spam does the same for flavors of doom.

Those you mentioned were the Pedo, Cop, and Wildfire(berry) flavors. This one would be chocolate (that is the color of the water).

Not only that, but there is a synthesis between every different flavor that we can add up to determine the shape of the doom.

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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1332873432468492288

We're gonna see a bipartisan push for euthanasia, 'voluntary' from the succ in coming years as a result of this plague during our downward spiral into barbarism.

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Aug 6, 2019

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https://twitter.com/KateandCRPS/status/1417353421347250176

I ain't exaggerating that that poo poo was gonna be bipartisan, or pushed.

This hits really hard as a disabled person too, I might add.

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i dont think is too far off. you can see this sentiment bubbling up here and there even on these forums. i can even feel it a bit lurking in the corners of my own brain.

May be worth broaching making it probe-a-ble with the other buttonhavers.

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Aug 6, 2019

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Private Cumshoe posted:

I don't want people to die :( I just don't want to get in like a car accident away from my medical records and health care directive telling ppl to pull the goddamn plug if I have like no more than a couple days to live but uh let's keep them alive to see if we can maybe make a more ethical decision later after 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities

tl;dr put a microchip in me with my health care directive idgaf at this point everyone wants to die and I don't want to live in 12 hours of pain that feels like 14 eternities after a car accident where my health care directive is not readily available

Euthanasia loving owns

The issue is that there is a perverse incentive to pressure the disabled, the unpopular and the livable but expensive to treat to take that instead; this has been a real world problem in the Neatherlands.

https://medium.com/@flaviadzodan/euthanasia-as-a-dutch-neoliberal-success-story-23c0a1e13940

It's classic neoliberalism, using social pressure and market forces to achive just as oppressive an effect as gross state power. I mean, look at the post upthread about how it is in beaverland. It is undeniable that there would be a strong economic incentive to push for this.

TL;DR, euthanasia is another thing capitalism ruined.

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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1420764473036582921

This is something to be viewed with some alarm, as there is a genuine risk of a collapse of order in the states as a result, if this happens under some models.

A temporary collapse of order in the states knocks at least 5 years off the collapse timeline, at least. I ain't even getting into a more lasting one.

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https://twitter.com/smdiehl/status/1422514498250940416

It goes into a bit of detail for the parallels between the Albanian pyramid schemes and crypto.

A further potential kindling to the fire, as it's impossible to know how many yanks have exposure here, let alone elsewhere; with ETH on sced for a POS conversion q4-q1, crypto is already on a fuse of uncertain length.

StratGoatCom has issued a correction as of 19:34 on Aug 3, 2021

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https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1425629659342024708

An elaboration on previously made points.

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https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1431066157595996164

Inflection point get.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-6FOejHfS8

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https://twitter.com/business/status/1455536200551383047?s=20

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https://twitter.com/graemeblake/status/1454272297020399619
https://twitter.com/graemeblake/status/1454273696198189065

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https://twitter.com/whstancil/status/1471176729930698762

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-60007119

https://twitter.com/cstross/status/1482370452089622529

Oh come on, really?

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/15/putin-has-given-masters-war-exactly-what-they-wanted

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https://twitter.com/IlleniumTakeshi/status/1517986109648736256

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https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1540117278775300096

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https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/comments/w9ufnt/is_it_just_me_or_do_things_feel_off/

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jul/31/drought-water-queues-uk-hosepipe-ban-compulsory-metering

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http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

A particularly good quote from the comments:

quote:

You're pretty close, here:

"...use the Blairite powers to use G4S or even Constellis Holdings (ex Blackwater) to restore control"
If you had to name the 'alarm bell' signal for me to sweep up my hard-currency stash and passport into the 'Go Bag' and get the next flight out, it would be the news that external 'security consultants' were inbound on a contract to support the police in protecting public safety...
That's a polite way of saying that the regime are bringing in mercenaries who are not subject to international law* to carry out orders that the British army and police cannot be given and would not be trusted to obey if they were.

But you also said 'G4S'.

Close, and you may well be correct, in a way. But Mrs May and her successor Preeti Patel already have a militia: the UK Border Force.

They have auxiliary forces under contract which do indeed include G4S. Which is to say: not only are you right, They are in place already.

They also have detention centres, which are not open to inspection by the United Nations and the Red Cross, in which there is no statutory requirement for an inquest into the death or disappearance of any inmate.

If you ever hear of the Home Office's immigration personnel and infrastructure being called-up to assist 'as a temporary administrative measure' - and we probably won't use the term 'Emergency' and we don't actually need emergency powers to do that) - get on the next plane or ferry out.

The Home Office militia and prison camps will be normalised into a domestic security role - not law and order! - and they will be something far worse than the existing police and prisons because they routinely defy the courts already and there are no effective mechanisms of accountability and review.

The bitter end of that road to Hell - - and I can assure you that I won't be here to see it - would be the recruitment of 'auxiliary personnel' and 'National Security Volunteers'. Essentially, handing-out armbands to the successor organisations to the National Front, and any other 'loyal citizens'; less politely, skinhead thugs with swastika tattoos, and swivel-eyed crucifix-wavers who will obey any order, no matter how inhumane, if they get a crack at sexual deviants and abortionists.

Betcha there's a lot of them working for the Home Office detention system's private sector solution partners already: the process might not even need armbands.

So yes, you're right.

I bet you wish you weren't.


* No really: look it up. US armed forces and their auxiliaries - Blackwater/Xe Services/Academi, and KBR Logistical Support - are explicitly protected by American law, so as to never be rendered to the Hague and prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

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https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1564431286474792962

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https://harvardpolitics.com/last-normal-summer/

bump, since it's relevant again.

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