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so, uh, anyone know how to get out a prusa mk3s brass nozzle that sheared off inside the heatblock while being replaced despite being torqued to prusa's specifications? asking for a friend
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 03:38 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 16:33 |
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Sagebrush posted:And just to be sure, you are heating the nozzle up before trying to take it out, right? Because I don't see how you could have sheared the brass apart unless you tried to unscrew it cold, and you will have an absolute gently caress of a time getting what's left of it out if you try to do it again. The brand new one sheared while I was putting it back on. Despite using a properly set torque wrench. Maybe my torque wrench is broken. And yes, it was at 285. I'm just gonna replace the heatblock, and potentially break. Deviant fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jul 20, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 04:00 |
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Sagebrush posted:That's wacky. I'd double-check your torque wrench, definitely. And make sure you're not, say, accidentally using foot-pounds when you should be using inch-pounds. It's possible that you just had a freak bad nozzle but I've never seen that happen before. Their doc says 2.5 Nm, so I set my wrench to 22 inch pounds: but i'll just use your method on the replacement. Garage edit: never buy a harbor freight torque wrench. Deviant fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jul 20, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 04:12 |
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it's fine. i'll get it fixed thursday and have learned a valuable lesson. and maybe try an extractor to save the old heatblock/break.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 04:56 |
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welp, they laughed at the screw extractor, so i'm down until my new block and break arrive. let this be a lesson about properly calibrating and checking precision tools.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2021 15:05 |
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Ugh, I replaced the hotend on my prusa mk3, redid first layer calibration to look beautiful, and have a spotless and freshly washed build plate, and the front corners of my calibration cat are lifting. I'm starting to think this is a roll of dodgy PLA, despite being jessie transitional. Any thoughts? he's being printed at default size, at 215/60 degrees. i'm trying with a roll of black hatchbox right now to see if it fares any better.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 21:22 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Did you redo your hotend PIDs? (That is a thing on Prusa's, right?) I did, recalibrated at 215. It also has a Temperature Calibration feature for the pinda sensor, but the one time i calibrated it and turned it on, i made air spaghetti, so i don't use it. The hatchbox test has only printed his little feet so far, but they appear to be sticking. I may have just gotten a dodgy roll of jessie transitional. More on this as it develops.
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# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 21:29 |
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It's also harder to see potential warping on black filament, so i'll have to wait for him to finish to really compare the two. Edit: hmm, he doesn't seem to be any better. I think I'm gonna send this printer through a full refresh to eliminate any possible gremlins from firmware, calibrations, etc. https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/full-system-refresh-original-prusa-i3_133258 i dont have a photo, but the angle of warp is about the same from the jessie to the hatchbox, so i think something about my settings might be off. Deviant fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jul 26, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 26, 2021 21:34 |
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Well, I don't know if it was firmware cruft or just doing a full recalibrate, but cat appears to be sticking properly now.
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 00:07 |
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Randalor posted:What's a good, easy to use, free program for 3D modelling? Or at least low-cost if free isn't an option? sketchup?
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 02:35 |
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so i'm now trying to see if printed solid will exchange this roll of transition PLA for me blue: jessie transition PLA, 215/60 black: hatchbox black, 215/60 identical gcode, similarly stored filaments. I think i just got a dodgy roll and it's been causing issues. at their suggestion i went up to 220 and it looks identical. someone else here said the quality of their transitional PLA had dropped off, too? If I have to go back to hatchbox, i will, but i will grumble about the price. Deviant fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jul 27, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 19:25 |
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i printed like this i printed like that i printed myself a wiffle ball bat
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 23:40 |
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Printed Solid's CS team has been stonewalling me on trying to exchange this roll of PLA I think is bad. "Try at 235. Lower your nozzle" dude, i've got a perfect print with other brands. just replace it. i can no longer recommend them as a vendor.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 01:00 |
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The roll is basically brand new and it's been lifting on prints since I opened it. I know of two other goons that are now having issues with their Jessie pla and I suspect something has changed or they sent out a bad run
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 05:57 |
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insta posted:It doesn't matter how new the filament is or what desiccant it was packed with. That's all theater and should not be relied on for stuff that must print dry. Do it yourself. The front feet keep lifting off the bed. Rad-daddio posted:It's probably just a bad roll. i'm not even irritated about the roll, I'm irritated about printed Solid's piss poor customer service. basically i just have to dehumanize myself and face to using a brim with my remaining PLA from them, though I guess I'll try drying it out. Deviant fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Jul 29, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 14:10 |
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Ghostnuke posted:goddamnit I literally just ordered 3 rolls from them yesterday they'll probably be fine. i probably just got a one-off or i'm doing something stupid.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 14:18 |
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Randalor posted:I know this is a dumb question, but if it's just the front feet each time, and it's always happening in the same spot on the printbed, have you tried printing it elsewhere on the bed and seeing if it still happens? If it's a heated bed, maybe the front feet are just in a cooler/cold spot. I've said most of this already but: - It doesn't happen with hatchbox PLA. - The bed has been cleaned repeatedly with dish soap - It's dead center in the bed, so I don't see how it could be a cooler spot. - It only happens with this roll of plastic.
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# ¿ Jul 29, 2021 15:41 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Asking Printed Solid or any other vendor to "make right" bad prints from any filament just isn't where the hobby is yet. Printed Solid specifically manufactures Jessie pla in America and prides themselves on that fact. Also lol that you think I should just accept getting a bad product straight out of the box because it's a hobby.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 16:48 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:
and i expect the manufacturer to fuckin fix it when i do, why is this hard? you send me a bad product, you replace it. "it's a hobby" doesn't absolve them of selling garbage in exchange for money, and i will be buying from someone else in the future. anyway i left it in a heated drybox for 6 hours, we'll see if that helps any Deviant fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jul 31, 2021 |
# ¿ Jul 31, 2021 15:47 |
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It looks like the sunlu filadryer s1 took about 2g or about 2mL of water off the roll in 6 hours. I have to assume that's liquid volume, so we'll see if it prints any better.
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2021 18:41 |
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what do yall print to use up the last bits of rolls?
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# ¿ Jul 31, 2021 20:58 |
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after drying that offending roll of Jessie PLA at 50C for 6 hours, i was able to make this: So I guess the SunLu Filadryer S1 is A+ would recommend. Also Printed Solid finally offered a refund or a replacement, which I told them not to worry about.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2021 17:06 |
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I keep all my non-in-use rolls in gallon bags with dessicant, which has been fine. This roll was definitely moist directly from the mfgr, though.
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2021 18:48 |
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I am at my wit's loving end with this printer. This roll came out of its bag within 5 minutes of this print. i have tried a higher nozzle. i have tried a lower nozzle. i have run first layer calibration more times than i care to think about. i have washed it. the filament is in a heated drybox. i am using default prusaslicer settings. i do not understand the loving problem. the layers stick fine. it is JUST the support material that does this poo poo. i'm starting to think that i, or the printer have a screw loose. possibly both. Deviant fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Aug 3, 2021 |
# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 16:26 |
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Sagebrush posted:Put some purple glue stick on the bed. i am unclear on why i should have to do that on a prusa PEI bed. My understanding is that the PEI is supposed to make that unnecessary. In addition to the fact that it's going to make a huge mess. Edit: it's PLA. Deviant fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Aug 3, 2021 |
# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 16:59 |
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Sagebrush posted:glue stuff same goddamn results with glue, and now i got that to clean off the loving bed.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 17:07 |
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Doctor Zero posted:
Yes, I've gotten consistently inconsistent results on both sides. Sockser posted:Print this and adjust z until you’re within like 0.01 tolerance i'll try it. it's gotta be better than prusa's built in method.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 17:27 |
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Deviant posted:Yes, I've gotten consistently inconsistent results on both sides. Okay, so my calipers only go to .1 increments, but I printed that and got 0.2, 0.3, 0.5, 0.7, and 0.9mm thick. ie -.1 the whole way across except layer 1, meaning i'm a tad too close? averaging that out we get -0.08. My sheet profile is currently at -0.850, so i'd want to tweak to what, -.780ish? am i parsing this right mentally?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 17:41 |
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Sockser posted:That’s right, yeah So here's my concern with that. I adjusted my Live Z from -.85 down to -.78. the reprint came out more accurately, at .2, .4, .6, .7, and .9, giving me an average of -0.04 However, even the -.78 version looks like it may have been a bit too far off the bed? this first layer isn't very well 'squished together', to use prusa's words, and the individual strands seperate fairly easily.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 18:02 |
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Sagebrush posted:Incidentally, I notice you aren't having any adhesion problems with these layer test files and the same black filament. I was only having adhesion issues with supports when i started this mess. If i let it run long enough to try and lay down 'real' bits, they stuck just fine. but that still doesn't address the fact that this methodology seems to be making me back my nozzle out too far?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 19:03 |
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Well, a few tweaks later, and pulling my nozzle way further back than I thought, I have beautiful bottom layers and supports. Ended up at .775, which is way higher than i expected.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 19:59 |
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Sagebrush posted:Heyy nice. It's what I said in my first post. Having the nozzle too close can physically peel the traces off the bed. though I did tell you not to read that part so my bad i place the blame squarely on prusa's live z calibration feature. it tells you to look for squished lines, which had me going far too close (closer to 0.850)
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2021 20:28 |
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So, the results are as follows on my stuff: - leveling my live z helped with supports - the transition PLA from printed solid is still definitely a little dodgy - they're sending me a new roll to try out, apparently they say they have made changes to their manufacturing process and would like me to review/report back. - i ordered a new steel sheet from prusa just in case my PEI is on its way out, if not i'll have it. But i'm still using hatchbox et al for anything critical in the meantime Deviant fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Aug 4, 2021 |
# ¿ Aug 4, 2021 17:21 |
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instagram won't stop advertising this contour gage to me https://www.amazon.com/Saker-Adjustable-Precisely-Duplicator-Woodworking/dp/B083FBRJPM so idk maybe try that
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 16:19 |
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yeah, we're deep into XY problem territory here. What are you trying to do? Edit: https://xyproblem.info/
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 20:07 |
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i just bought these and they seem fine https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000GSLKIW
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 19:19 |
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So I definitely got something new from Printed Solid they aren't offering yet and have asked for my feedback. It's labeled "Jessie 2.0", and I'm going to give it a try after i burn out what's left of my old stuff, I found settings that play finally, if only barely. Any suggestions for test/calibration/etc prints? After a temperature tower to see where it likes to live.
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 17:39 |
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Dr Sun Try posted:this one is nice for testing out new filaments, especially the overhang and bridging test. I have this, I actually have the micro as well saved locally. No idea where it went. I forgot all the gently caress about benchy though, lol. Blocked it out of my brain after my last printer wouldnt play~
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 02:35 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:There is this remix of it, but it's not by the same author. Are you sure this isn't what you're thinking of? No, I know the one he means. It's linked from the mini page, but the link 404s. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2975429
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2021 17:03 |
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# ¿ May 8, 2024 16:33 |
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Javid posted:For just PLA, hairspray on the glass is 11/10. I was extremely resistant to dealing with the extra consumable and spraying/cleaning logistics, but it absolutely solved all my problems. which hairspray? i use got2b for cosplay already but that feels like overkill
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# ¿ Aug 16, 2021 01:14 |