Dreddout posted:

Tankies are the leftists that don't apologize for the terror

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There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

Horseshoe theory posted:

*Looks at Orban* Guess Khrushchev was right about sending in the tanks into Budapest.

CoolCab posted:

the historical meaning was (correct me if I'm wrong) people who thought the Soviet Union was justified in sending the tanks in to crush the prauge spring and other eastern European uprisings. it can be a broader question about the role of intranational socialist states against what they perceive as counter revolutionary nationalism, reactionary liberalism, etc in their vassal states. it pretty quickly was diluted into something said against Stalinists and then Maoists and so forth until now it is so broad it is kind of useless. "someone who is both comically more radical than me and bad" is close I guess? it's really most amusing watching anarchists grow increasingly aware of the fact it is terminology they share within the most hardcore liberals and reactionaries, lol.

swear to loving Christ before I stopped posting in DnD someone demanded I quote a loyalty oath about the uyghurs in China explicitly stating it was a genocide to "prove" I wasn't a tankie, which is for real one of the craziest loving things that has happened to me in the near 2 decades I've been here.

indigi posted:

Mark Twain’s perspective on the OG terror (French) helped me be more comfortable with the Russian and Chinese versions

christmas boots posted:

To Wong Foo, Tanks for Everything! Julie Newmar

Homeless Friend posted:

Horseshoe theory posted:

*Looks at Orban* Guess Khrushchev was right about sending in the tanks into Budapest.

Judakel posted:

this guy looks like the product of inbreeding

Homeless Friend posted:

Horseshoe theory posted:

*Looks at Orban* Guess Khrushchev was right about sending in the tanks into Budapest.

Red and Black posted:

He talks major poo poo when he's online but the one time he came face to face with the fabled tankie he became completely docile and basically just let Carl Zha explain Chinese history to him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccw9lwK_yWU

Mr. Sharps posted:

lol your red text rules

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

tanks are cool as hell. i'm not a milhist guy and know next to nothing about them but every once in a while you see a picture of a tank and are like hell yeah, that looks sick.

the best ones are the minesweeping tanks because they have all kind of weird rollers and flails and poo poo hanging off of them. extremely cool.

Red and Black posted:

Have you heard of Hobart's funnies?

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Red and Black posted:

Have you heard of Hobart's funnies?

Big Mad Drongo posted:

My Tankies Fight

Hatebag posted:

One of the primary demands of the Hungarian revolutionaries in 56 was institution of multiparty democracy, which they got in 89. Now they're fascist so maybe the soviets were right to invade or maybe the invasion gave the fascists something to organize around. The Hungarian government pre revolution seemed pretty fuckin incompetent though and their security forces were constantly shooting crowds of peaceful demonstrators, so they were bad. The un delegation to investigate the Soviet invasion was lead by a danish nazi collaborator though, so lol

dead gay comedy forums posted:

are there any quality reads about socialism in postwar eastern europe but like, about the practical approaches, planning, etc

the little I know seems to indicate that most competent communists either got killed in the war or fled to the USSR already; because of cold war realities, the executive roster of many communist parties were "artificial" - basically many having many non-communists taking positions in government - as the Soviets would have one hell of a monumental task if they were to rebuild the political establishment of those countries from zero; without a core revolutionary character, the socialist perspective of those governments seemed to be rather limited