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He's a book nerd, it's where the whole Amazon business started
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Daniel Greene(most prominent WOT youtuber) brought up a good point in a recent video. How dark and explicit should the show go as far as violence, torture, sex, nudity, sexual assaults/rape? WoT has a reputation of being "soft" or Pg-13, but that has more to do with how the author doesn't wallow in the filth and rub your nose in it like GRRM. The books are chock full of scenes deserving hard R ratings, (aside from the sex scenes mostly fading to black). I really hope they don't shy away from how horrific and brutal WoT can be, but I also hope they don't lean too far into it like GoT just for the perverted shock value. It's a fine line.
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Jul 29, 2021 17:09
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My guess is it will be PG-13. I mean it's no Sword of Truth.
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Jul 29, 2021 17:16
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GreenNight posted:My guess is it will be PG-13. I mean it's no Sword of Truth. Yeah, it's still Amazon they're not gonna go as far as GoT. I hope they don't go full Sword of Truth TV series though.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:00
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I enjoyed Legend of the Seeker but yeah. That was more Xena than GoT. The books can be brutal though.
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Jul 29, 2021 18:06
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GreenNight posted:My guess is it will be PG-13. I mean it's no Sword of Truth. No but it sure does go some odd places itself. I fell off SoT, did they make the pain dildos the sex ninja ladies used as hilariously bad in the show? God help me I even finished that awful series. I had a lot of free time back then.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:00
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GreenNight posted:I enjoyed Legend of the Seeker but yeah. That was more Xena than GoT. The books can be brutal though. All the times Richard rapes women, or beats up little girls, yea don't need that. Or the time when the army of naked people attacks the villains army, painted white so they look like ghosts and because they're being lead by Richards super hot girlfriend they all have boners so that becomes a tactical advantage. Or the large segments of BDSM. God I can't believe i read all of those and bought the back half of the series in HARDCOVER. Hardcovers are 40+ bux in Canada, and that was early 2000s money.
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Jul 29, 2021 19:03
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Abercrombie had some gnarly passages in his books too. I always wonder if his First Law books would ever get adapted.
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Jul 29, 2021 20:14
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Ccs posted:Big fan of fantasy books but I tend towards the newer stuff by Abercrombie and Parker that followed Game of Thrones getting published rather than the old "Farmboy will save the world and there's a Gandalf analogue" type story. But a high budget fantasy adaption is rare so I'll probably check out the first few episodes of this. The best fantasy adaption I've seen is BBC "Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell" series but that was just for one book. that was a good one
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Aug 3, 2021 13:32
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Very excited for this, but yeah there are some legit concerns about choices in production that'll impact it, yet we will simply have to wait and see. Given I started reading the drat books when I was maybe 12 or 13 and have reread at least the first 6 books a dozen or more times, I was always going to be excited for it to be made into some TV/film thing.
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Junkenstein posted:Didn't he personally save The Expanse because he wanted to see more? If he did he'd be willing to fund the SFX extravaganza that's the 3 books they're not making into seasons so I don't think that was real.
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Aug 3, 2021 22:21
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Repping the incredible sword of truth let's read for anyone who feels like experiencing their edgy teenage years. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668845&pagenumber=167&perpage=40
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Nail Rat posted:If he did he'd be willing to fund the SFX extravaganza that's the 3 books they're not making into seasons so I don't think that was real. There's such a huge jump, in time, tone, and cast, for those three books that I can absolutely understand them wrapping up now and letting someone come back to it in fifteen years.
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Aug 4, 2021 22:06
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Affi posted:I'm psyched but also feeling its going to be a poo poo series? 
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Yeah I've tried to stay level-headed with regards to my expectations for the show, but every time they were announcing a new cast member, or some of the shittay 2 sec teasers I managed to get more hyped. I don't want to be because I don't want it to be a let-down. This was the defining series of my teenage years, so it has a very soft nostalgia-spot within me. If they can do half the entertaining show they made out of A Song of Ice and Fire (barring a few seasons), I should be happy. Though there are a lot more fantasy/magic elements in WoT than ASOIAF. I do, however, think that ultimately a Castlevania ish treatment of adult cartoon might have been the best way to properly express the magic/action of this series.
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Updated the second post with some new scans from the upcoming September issue of Entertainment Weekly.
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The RECAPITATOR posted:I do, however, think that ultimately a Castlevania ish treatment of adult cartoon might have been the best way to properly express the magic/action of this series. Between Castlevania itself and Invincible, I think people are a lot more receptive to adult cartoons that aren't primarily comedies now too.
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Aug 18, 2021 15:48
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tsob posted:Between Castlevania itself and Invincible, I think people are a lot more receptive to adult cartoons that aren't primarily comedies now too. This is true, but I'll also say there are some folks (like my wife) that just have a prejudice against the animated medium and wouldn't engage with it on that basis alone. The show will have a much better chance at a wide audience and big lasting success as a live action thing than it would have as an animated one, even if I might agree it's better suited to an animated medium.
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Aug 18, 2021 17:47
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Yeah, I don't doubt that but at the same time, the more successful adult dramatic animations there are the more chance of breaking that perception and making animation just another medium rather than one for kids or comedies only. And the more successful shows there are, the more chance people like your wife would try it and/or move past it. Some people probably never would, and your wife may be one, but it'd be nice to see more such animations in the future regardless of whether Wheel of Time in particular is one.
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Aug 18, 2021 17:57
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I’d be ok with WoT animation in the realm of Final Fantasy movies with the attention to detail and more natural colors or something like that. Less realistic animation like Castlevania/Invincible wouldn’t do it for me, just feels too cartoony.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:02
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They should have gone with claymation imo.
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Aug 21, 2021 16:22
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latinotwink1997 posted:I’d be ok with WoT animation in the realm of Final Fantasy movies with the attention to detail and more natural colors or something like that. Less realistic animation like Castlevania/Invincible wouldn’t do it for me, just feels too cartoony. Like it or not, the Wheel of Time is an anime at heart
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Aug 21, 2021 16:42
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Rand! Elayne! Rand! Min! Rand al'Thor! Aviendha! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsNv4JN4BXg
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Aug 21, 2021 17:01
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I haven't read the last few books, so I've no idea how that relationship clusterfuck resolves, but if the show has any social cachet and gets to the point it establishes the weird love quadrangle/harem around Rand then the discourse around it will probably be a quagmire.
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Aug 21, 2021 17:10
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It will be interesting to see what they do with that. That's actually an area of WoT that I think could use some improvement. I'm not sure any of the romances feel earned in WoT. Maaaaaybe Siuan and Gareth if only because that one drags out over so many books before they officially become a couple. But there's a lot of "love at first sight" and "oh by the way, we're in love now" in WoT and if they could make some of it feel more authentic, that'd be a huge improvement.
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Aug 21, 2021 18:48
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I vaguely remember feeling like the [couple set up in the first book and playing out over the series spoiler]Nyvaeve/Lan romance was alright, but I barely remember any details of it, and just liked the snarky tension I think. Mind you, I imagine a lot of people will like that in it, even if it's kind of superficial. The [couple set up a few books in spoiler]Perrin romance with...girl whose name I can't remember, but with a striking nose he comments on a lot was decent too if I recall, just because it felt like there was some actual work putting into making them care about each other. Faile? I think that's her name. I dropped out around the time there was a romance being set up with Mat, but that one seemed like it could be good too and it always felt like there was supposed to be something between [couple implied throughout the series but never really formed until possibly very late in the books spoiler]Moraine and Thom; who it's always suggested would come back. Again, I never read the last few books to know how that played out. I do think there's some good romantic pairings there. Melodramatic and fairly cliche, sure, but still the kind of thing I think people will like regardless and not any more so than a lot of fiction tends to trade in really.
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Spoilers for relationships. Min and Rand is very good, to the point that his relationship with the others doesn't really make any sense. Although Aviendha being a massive Tsundere is something I'll enjoy.
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Teaser trailer drops tomorrow. https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1433098015829487616 https://twitter.com/TheWheelOfTime/status/1433097594561986561
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Sep 1, 2021 17:20
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Odds are this will be mediocre to bad. But I'll probably check it out for Rosamund Pike, who's amazing and creeped the gently caress out of me with her Gone Girl performance.
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Sep 1, 2021 20:37
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I'll be watching every single episode.
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I think it'll be quite good for what it is, given how much love is clearly going into it from the whole cast and crew. There's no way it's going to live up to the expectations of most of the fans, though. There's just no way to reasonably adapt such a sprawling tale without compressing or cutting out most of it. I'm doing my best to keep my hype levels at minimum so that I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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As long as they realize that the books have a lot of filler that they can cut. Season 1 better not follow the first book because god drat that was a snoozefest.
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twistedmentat posted:As long as they realize that the books have a lot of filler that they can cut. Season 1 better not follow the first book because god drat that was a snoozefest. Season 1 is supposed to get into Great Hunt so they gotta be making some big cuts.
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uPen posted:Season 1 is supposed to get into Great Hunt so they gotta be making some big cuts. It looks more like season 1 is significantly TEoTW, with maybe some elements of New Spring as flashbacks, and probably the lead-in into TGH in the back half of the last episode.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fus4Xb_TLg
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Sep 2, 2021 16:31
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Alright they definitely cut a good trailer. The fade looks rad.
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Sep 2, 2021 16:48
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This is what I get for being at work 
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Sep 2, 2021 16:51
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Trailer looks good - does anyone else think it looks a bit too....I don't know, bright and polished, almost plastic? Every scene looks super bright, gives it a very PG13 look.
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the series has always been a lot more concerned with colorful and fantastical things than being grimy so it's probably not too much of a surprise if they focus more on the former than the latter when going for a cohesive visual style. you get a lot of characters in fancy dresses and whatever instead of mud-smeared tunics so they're probably going to reserve grittier looks for certain characters when it's more plot-relevant.
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I've been pissing and moaning about how dull and not colorful media has been for years, everything's always grey or all graded into some kind of monochrome. I'm very ready for something that has lots of bright colors, magic, epic fantasy! Big bright and bold is what I've been hoping for from this show and it looks like they might actually deliver
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