Tabletop Games Have Weird Politics: If the players bring about Jesus' death, great!

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NC Wyeth Death Cult: Dec 30, 2005; He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Reading about this makes me glad the internet wasn't really around when THAC0 was introduced.

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NC Wyeth Death Cult: Dec 30, 2005; He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

There was definitely shitposting about it in zines and possible Usenet/BBSes.

I remember people having strong opinions about it but it wasn't like there was a lazy way they could organize around their disapproval or send Gygax recent pictures of the outside of his house in unmarked letters. Also, though, back then your choices were, like, Palladium so people had no choice.

# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 13:31

NC Wyeth Death Cult: Dec 30, 2005; He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

GimpInBlack posted:

Short, heavily-bearded folks (often depicted with prominent noses, even if only so that their faces don't get completely lost in the facial hair) who tend to love gold and treasure are absolutely connected to Jewish stereotypes.

Tolkien also based the Dwarvish language in LotR specifically and intentionally on Semitic languages, despite their Norse-derived names (because there's also a lot of Norse mythology dwarves in Tolkien's Dwarves), and explicitly said in one of his letters that the Dwarves were inspired by Jews in the sense of being a people driven from their homeland and living in their own community enclaves within other populations, speaking their own language and keeping their traditional culture alive. And a lot of Tolkien derived fantasy settings lift both of those elements, even if they don't necessarily understand the source of them.

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/513824/pdf
To back this up- there was a paper written about it using Tolkiens own words with some entertaining passages like:

quote:

In the original BBC-interview, the text of which is given by Zak Cramer in Mallorn 44 (2006), Tolkien�s statement is longer. It turns out that Tolkien had added a remark about �a tremendous love of the [End Page 123] artefact, and of course the immense warlike capacity of the Jews, which we tend to forget nowadays.� This was cut from the interview.

# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 16:12

NC Wyeth Death Cult: Dec 30, 2005; He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Fascism in tabletop games deserves WW2 wargames being mentioned. Even now they still really like having the RKKA being mindless zerg rush horde and the SS being ultra disciplined super soldiers. That's a talking point direct from nazis poached after surrender, and in the real war even the Wehrmacht viewed the Waffen-SS as suicidal and incompetent.

WW2 also seems to cultivate the most "what ifs" games that revolve around the Time Life Books commercial mythologies of what if the Nazis had super weapons that worked, or the rumors of Werewolf supersoldiers were real or if magick was real. I always felt the pitch meetings went, "Haha guys, that certainly would be terrible if they did that... unless?"

# ¿ Jul 2, 2022 14:59

NC Wyeth Death Cult: Dec 30, 2005; He lost his life in Chadds Ford, he was dancing with a train.

Randalor posted:

But then how did Gandalf get off of Orthanc?

Easy- how did we know he was trapped up there? Who were the witnesses?

# ¿ Oct 21, 2023 14:56

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