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I'm an aussie who has been living in Auckland for the last 6 years (renting of course lol). My partner and I have no kids and our household income pre-tax would have been somewhere around $170k NZD up until recently (I'm currently voluntarily between jobs). That's not huge money but it's way more than a lot of people here would have, higher than the Auckland average, and there's no way I could really feel comfortable buying a house on that. Joke's on me though because if I had tried to buy one 5 years ago it would probably be worth double by now... Agree with the 'Jacinda is good but too loving neoliberal' sentiment, she's obviously better than the opposition who are anyway in complete disarray and have been for years now, but it's quite clear that nothing significant is actually going to change under her leadership. It's pretty obvious that there's way too much locked up in the price of housing in this country (e.g. the retirement plans for anybody over 40) for any politician to realistically try to make it go down. Can you imagine how loving quickly you'd be voted out if you made the average house price drop by even 25%? Anybody who owned property would be out for you blood for personally costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that still wouldn't even make housing what I'd call affordable. And there's no practical way you could significantly add to the number of houses available in Auckland without also having to completely re-do the entire roads network or build basically from scratch an entire public transport system to support it. I'd be happy living elsewhere if I could get a job but with my career I could basically only ever find work in large cities and they're all going the same way. So yeah, I'm pretty resigned to the 'housing crash' never happening, the price of housing to basically continuously rise and plateau forever until it's all owned by corporations or the mega-wealthy and everyone rents forever.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:No wonder there's so many homeless now. The most basic human need of having some sort of a safe, functional dwelling has been completely monetized, turned into investment opportunities for the rich and it shouldn't be allowed. "Now"? It's been like this forever. It just keeps getting worse and worse, is all. I will probably never be able to buy property, even on an engineering salary, so gently caress it. Speed parts instead.
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Aug 3, 2021 06:41
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My current boss (4th in 3 years) is moving to another position in the company so that makes me want this other gig even more. I'm extremely tired of training the person who will be leading my department.
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Aug 3, 2021 06:56
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Applebees Appetizer posted:No wonder there's so many homeless now. The most basic human need of having some sort of a safe, functional dwelling has been completely monetized, turned into investment opportunities for the rich and it shouldn't be allowed. Just read some of the stories about people that can't get a rental because of bad credit, or one eviction on their record because they lost their job once and couldn't pay rent so no one else will rent to them even with proof of income. From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck. Truth is, the game was rigged from the start  BraveUlysses posted:conservatives have always been trash, they just don't care anymore about putting on the thin veneer of civility Maybe it's just Chicago insulating me from the worst of it, but I do occasionally run into dinosaurs who still think it's 1988 and that Reaganomics is the best plan, so they vote republican. More often than not, I run into people who are barely containing their hate and speak in dogwhistles, but yeah... in my lifetime, I've gotten to watch the party grow from garbage neoliberalism and more garbage neoconservativism, into the absolute trash that is proto-fascism, while all of the "good" people still support it no matter what gently caress them all
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Aug 3, 2021 07:08
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Reaganomics plainly was a complete con-job suckfest to everyone at the time and it hasn't changed over the last 40 years of nothing ever trickling down aside from the bills to cover the latest republican-led destruction of the nation's economy in order to enrich their donors.
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Aug 3, 2021 07:14
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Dear god never eat slightly suspect Metwurst... Three days later still cant trust a fart and get an insane headache every time I lean over that goes away the instant I stand back up again. Dont think i'll be back at work again tomorrow either!
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Aug 3, 2021 08:28
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Ether Frenzy posted:Reaganomics plainly was a complete con-job suckfest to everyone at the time and it hasn't changed over the last 40 years of nothing ever trickling down aside from the bills to cover the latest republican-led destruction of the nation's economy in order to enrich their donors. The amazing thing is that you still see trickle down economics referred to as anything other than a complete blanket con job. rdb posted:Prior to 2017 I used to think humans were pretty far separated from the other great ape species. Watching republicans and their great “leader” slowly eroded that sentiment. Yep. I've gone further in the decline of my valuation of the human race. We're no more than ants. We all have different, "unique" lives, but it's all the same. Same grind for resources, just different shinier resources. Building poo poo up, only to have nature or others gently caress it up and build again. Dealing with tragedy after setback and still building, 'cause that's what we're programmed to do. But really? None of it matters.
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Aug 3, 2021 13:02
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Do ants poison their own habitats and torture each other for resources?
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Aug 3, 2021 13:15
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cakesmith handyman posted:Do ants poison their own habitats and torture each other for resources? Okay, worse than ants.
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Aug 3, 2021 13:18
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meatpimp posted:But really? None of it matters. Pretty much, it's hard for me not to get into a nihilistic mindset sometimes these days. If it wasn't for my family I'd probably be a full blown Nihilist by now. It's hard to believe in anything besides your own little life bubble when everything else is hosed
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Aug 3, 2021 13:49
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Ferremit posted:Dear god never eat slightly suspect Metwurst... Three days later still cant trust a fart and get an insane headache every time I lean over that goes away the instant I stand back up again. Dont think i'll be back at work again tomorrow either!
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Aug 3, 2021 14:58
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Pretty much, it's hard for me not to get into a nihilistic mindset sometimes these days. If it wasn't for my family I'd probably be a full blown Nihilist by now. The more I embrace nihilism the easier I can deal with setbacks. It's very freeing on the upswing to, if I can internalize that nothing matters then why not take a risk for more happiness.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:17
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StormDrain posted:The more I embrace nihilism the easier I can deal with setbacks. It's very freeing on the upswing to, if I can internalize that nothing matters then why not take a risk for more happiness. And that's where I'm trying to get to. Just because nothing matters and we've turbo-hosed this planet into a doomed rock, that doesn't mean that our lizard brains don't release dopamine to make us feel good. And doing things for others releases feel good chemicals, too, even though nothing matters... or perhaps especially with nothing mattering.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:25
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Ok, so it's not just a young person thing, no one believes that good things are going to happen on a large scale in pur lifetimes?
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Aug 3, 2021 15:35
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The Door Frame posted:Ok, so it's not just a young person thing, no one believes that good things are going to happen on a large scale in pur lifetimes? Climate change being resolved by humanity destroying itself is a good thing right?
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Aug 3, 2021 15:37
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The Door Frame posted:Ok, so it's not just a young person thing, no one believes that good things are going to happen on a large scale in pur lifetimes? It's not that, I do think good things are possible. There just isn't an overarching goal or purpose. I think you can go a lot of ways with it, personally all I have is my life and I want to maximize my enjoyment from now until death, and I want that to be a long time from now, so I work out, eat consciously, go to the doctor etc. I want others to be happy and I pursue a socialist government. I don't want it to be an excuse to be a lovely person or a burden on society.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:52
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I 100% don't give a poo poo about the future of the planet anymore. I don't litter or dump oil in the sewers but when people try to get me to care about that I just don't. I won't be alive to see the world burn so I do not care at all.
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Aug 3, 2021 15:58
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For every gallon of oil I dump in the sewer I toss a car battery in the ocean to counter balance.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:02
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I mean really, an actual apocalypse might be cool to watch right?
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Aug 3, 2021 16:05
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Rhyno posted:I mean really, an actual apocalypse might be cool to watch right? Look out the window?
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Aug 3, 2021 16:08
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IOwnCalculus posted:Look out the window? I live in the suburbs now, nothing crazy happening here. Gimmie the hellfire shooting into the sky and winged monsters flapping around.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:11
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meatpimp posted:And that's where I'm trying to get to. Just because nothing matters and we've turbo-hosed this planet into a doomed rock, that doesn't mean that our lizard brains don't release dopamine to make us feel good. And doing things for others releases feel good chemicals, too, even though nothing matters... or perhaps especially with nothing mattering. Doing good things for others just because you can is always worth it, because that's basically the only objectively pure and good thing you can do, as a human being. Doesn't matter that it's irrelevant in the big picture or forgotten in a week or 100 years, you literally made someone's life better and made them feel better. Worth it.
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Aug 3, 2021 16:56
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meatpimp posted:The amazing thing is that you still see trickle down economics referred to as anything other than a complete blanket con job. It didn’t mean that in the context of nihilism - just that most of that behavior and signaling can be easily explained if you ignore the words and focus on the low level stuff. Its just ingrained in our DNA. Also ant colonies will destroy other ant colonies. Bees will rob other bee colonies. Chimpanzees will steal murder and canibilize other chimpanzees. We aren’t going to reason our way out of this hole in 200 years (or whenever you feel modern science began)… its taken millions to create. But thats not to say we can’t try, or won’t eventually succeed. COVID, at this point, is going to weed out a lot of people who chose ignorance. And there is likely nothing we can do about that other than stay vaccinated. The spanish flu stuck around for 30 years.
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Aug 3, 2021 17:27
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StormDrain posted:By divesting in education you're investing in a quantity of future conservatives. This is exactly what they are doing, with under-funding, redlining, and gerrymandering. loving assholes. You'd think they'd at least let us have drugs legal to keep us happy and oblivious, but I guess they don't need to. AmbassadorofSodomy posted:Arabian goggle. I am *not* looking that up. It's hard some days to give three shits about anything. I sometimes regret having a kid (she's 19 now) not because of any changes she's made in my life, but what she will have to deal with in her life. Between her spectrum issues and *waves hands around at everything*, she's very unlikely to ever own a home. At this point, a job would be a victory.
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Rhyno posted:I live in the suburbs now, nothing crazy happening here. Gimmie the hellfire shooting into the sky and winged monsters flapping around. My parents were promised nuclear hellfire and all my generation got was "conservatives are gutting everything to hide on their pedophile islands while wildfire season is now 6 months long". What a sham.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:No wonder there's so many homeless now. The most basic human need of having some sort of a safe, functional dwelling has been completely monetized, turned into investment opportunities for the rich and it shouldn't be allowed. Just read some of the stories about people that can't get a rental because of bad credit, or one eviction on their record because they lost their job once and couldn't pay rent so no one else will rent to them even with proof of income.  Speaking of homelessness - I pulled up google maps of my mom's house and they had a picture of the only home I've owned outright! I lived in this 6th gen for 2 months and that was pure hell. I would not even consider that "real homelessness" because I had a place to sleep and a job at the time. The world is truly ice cold  - it's hard sometimes to imagine that anything good will ever happen again, but of course that's not true.I guess the google maps car drove by literally the weekend I took the car back home in 2013 over the summer when I was back for college. I doubt I'll ever feel such a strong emotional connection to a car again (and to such an 'average' car too) - it's sad I don't have more pictures of the thing It is not a nice thing to say I guess but at this point in my life I am just trying to build some kind of security for myself. I have learned enough about myself that I can not take care of myself and pay attention to the finer points of politics at the same time. I volunteer/sponsor people and try to keep myself motivated. Honestly there have been times in my life where I've been suicidal where I've thought something like "well if I die I'll never see PlayStation 6" and that has been enough. Sad and consumerist? Yeah but it's not just the PlayStation is just a curiosity about the future. I just assume things will progressively get worse as they always do in a failing empire, try to make sure I'm ok, and then help the people around me in that order. Other than that I try not to worry about it. At least we're not in 17th century France where our options would be either 1.) work the fields 2.) join the military and have a coin flip chance of dying horribly in every semi annual conflict or 3.) dying of some sort of rare disease or malnutrition/consumption. If you think about what your ancestors just 3 generations back were doing we have a pretty great deal overall. CerealKilla420 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 3, 2021 |
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64bit_Dophins posted:I just assume things will progressively get worse as they always do in a failing empire, try to make sure I'm ok, and then help the people around me in that order. Other than that I try not to worry about it. At least we're not in 17th century France where our options would be either 1.) work the fields 2.) join the military and have a coin flip chance of dying horribly in every semi annual conflict or 3.) dying of some sort of rare disease or malnutrition/consumption. If you think about what your ancestors just 3 generations back were doing we have a pretty great deal overall.
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Aug 3, 2021 20:11
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COVID-19 is not rare anymore. Also your odds of dying from it are quite low if you’re not a loving idiot.
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I'm very surprised how many people have been masking back up, since my employer restarted mandating masks for employees. It's still only about 1/4-1/3 of our traffic, but I suppose it's an improvement. Now if only my own mother would get her drat shot, so she can see her grandkid. We're nervous enough about starting her in pre-K in Sept, but she really needs the social interaction, and our school district had excellent covid policies last year and planned for this fall. I'm glad my in-laws are 100% vaccinated with mRNA, so she's been able to see them a lot in the last few months.
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Housing chat is tough to read. It keeps feeling like it should spill open (Market Correction is the term so many use to water down what a poop-fest it will be) but it just...hasn't? Everything keeps going up. Car prices, stock prices, home prices, gas prices, food prices. Everything but wages are going up. A few things have really gone my way the past decade and I have made better than average decisions to not get totally idiotic about things so I am personally prepared for the collapse but so many people did not catch those breaks, and many who did have prepared poorly. My wife and I have been talking a lot this summer about the madness. Getting a big case of the "Effits" as we call it. Just want to say effit all. Since we have been getting out exploring and camping we have found that the place we really want to be is the mountains. A lot of people dream about owning a boat or something. We have always dreamed of a cabin/recreation property and that urge has become all more apparent this past year. If we didn't have young kids and wanted a social life for them I would probably start making the moves to go toward full cabin/mountain life. An A-Frame cabin appeals to us a lot. We really love how this particular one looks. Back of the napkin math if we paired down on stuff and things and sell our home at current market value we could just about build one of those outright. I would want to get a piece of land big enough to eventually build something like a metal outbuilding/shop with some tall doors and space for like 4 cars or something. That would make the main dwelling minimalist/uncluttered but give storage space for life stuff (and project cars). Seriously...gimme this   Surrounded by aspens and pine trees. Like this spot I camped two weeks ago  We are casually looking for just the dirt right now. If something were to pop up we could just scoop it up and sit until we are ready.
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Advent Horizon posted:COVID-19 is not rare anymore. Your chances of dying "if you're not a loving idiot" are quite low, if you ignore that:
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Advent Horizon posted:COVID-19 is not rare anymore. Yeah and so are the odds of you dying in a war these days, during WW1 the loses were astronomical, and if you were an able young male living in Europe at the time odds were you'd be forced on the front lines in the trenches getting killed or permanently disabled if you were lucky.
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Ok, guys, you win, my hyperbolic statement that:
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Don't those LR3s or whatever have a fatal engine flaw, which shows at about 80k miles, which is why you never see them anymore? Seemed to be the case when I was shopping that segment and went with an XC90.
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meatpimp posted:Don't those LR3s or whatever have a fatal engine flaw, which shows at about 80k miles yeah there's a green oval on the front of the thing. Timing chains? Those got fixed on the AJV8 by '05. Outside of that its all GDCS and random rear end electrical problems.
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StormDrain posted:
The can is the wrong color for diesel. Or DEF. Thats probably an expensive mistake.
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Just in case you though it was only the housing market that’s hosed in Australia… https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1966-alfa-romeo-giulia-sprint-gt-veloce-manual/SSE-AD-7337728
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slothrop posted:Just in case you though it was only the housing market that’s hosed in Australia… I raise you this: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/maserati/auction-3189307668.htm $400k in the UK buys you a mint runner. I doubt you could pay anyone to get this one in the same condition for the difference. Or, look at the prices of late model HSV’s, particularly low km manual LSA cars. $300k here. Regular used car supply is fine though. Prices very slightly up but the flood from Japan continues at pace.
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