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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

and they have the person’s license plate on camera anyway before the chase. unless it’s someone who’s going to uproot their life to run AND who’s imminently going to kill more people, just knock on their door later.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Smythe posted:

i swear ive seen corvette or camaro CHP cars





AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006



It's a cultural marker and a way to protect capital with violence.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Ensign Expendable posted:

A lot of those signs are flimsy plastic paddles and you can effortlessly drive over them with your car. Cities won't put up any infrastructure that might damage a car breaking the law, but I guess private lots do.

This is intentional because signposts aren't supposed to kill people. If you're being generous, someone might have lost control because brakes/steering failed or another car hit them (lol, no of course they were speeding in a parking lot), and even where the goal is to provide a real barrier you want to do it with as much give as possible to dissipate the force involved.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

silicone thrills posted:

One of the things that happens in these situations is people in wheel chairs just end up having to ride in the street. We dont have many sidewalks where i am and the ones we do have are: randomly blocked, randomly end, home owners let everything over grow onto them, or theyre just so narrow they're unusable.
Anyway every so often I see people bitch about wheel chair users riding in the street on facebook and nextdoor with no real concept how badly poo poo infrastructure hurts people with mobility problems on top of the general community harm.

Why don't people in wheelchairs just carry chainsaws?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

ArmedZombie posted:

that's pretty common in lots of cities

this is usually an upgrade from the previous state of no sidewalks

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

probably not a bad idea to read a manual if you want to go down that path, it's not entirely obvious how to get a truck out of neutral. this is a semi, right? no one just leaves a pickup idling?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

webcams for christ posted:

yeah the user-side interface for so many nations' transit systems suck so much

I love the SBB app in Switzerland that lets me load my half-fare card, commuter subscriptions, and purchase tickets for any train, ferry, cable car (most of which are privately owned), funicular, or bus in the country. it's great

Public transit fares are nonsense in the first place. Get rid of barriers for things you want people to use, what’s the risk exactly of people overusing public transportation.

Roads can have toll stations that only take exact change in coins though, no objection there. Preferably every quarter mile in urban areas.

AreWeDrunkYet has issued a correction as of 14:44 on Jan 3, 2024

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

sat on my keys! posted:

last night cycling home I was behind a cab that kept waiting 3-5s at every green light and weaving across the solid line because the driver was eating a sandwich with both hands while driving

pretty sure freeing up both hands while driving is why humans have knees in the first place

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

gradenko_2000 posted:

the tip my friend gave me about how to build endurance was to pick a high gear and then just never touch it no matter what. And if you need to go slower for safety reasons, just pedal less.

I started going on rides on 6th gear (out of 8) and then moved up to 7, and then to 8. Staying on 8 all the time still kinda sucks for getting started from zero but it's doable once I'm up to speed.

This is wrong. That’s how you build strength and a few other things, but for endurance you want to always be in a gear that lets your legs move at one speed that works best for you. That’s the whole point of gears. Training for endurance requires going on longer rides (or getting on an elliptical for a while, but that’s just the worst).

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that said, if you're commuting, then the book-advice I got was to just stay on whatever low gear you're comfortable with, since you're not racing against time or measuring yourself on distance, and I agree with that too

Also depends on whether you have a shower at work. If you’re going to shower anyway, crank it. If not choose the pace that lets you sweat a reasonable amount.

AreWeDrunkYet has issued a correction as of 04:36 on Jan 6, 2024

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Peanut President posted:

Yeah call me carbrained but i think of gears on a bike like i would on a manual car

It’s the same concept, down to both humans and ICEs running most efficiently in a particular RPM range.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

not sure where this came from, but I've heard a couple times something along the lines of "southern europeans drive aggressively but not dangerously, americans don't drive aggressively but do it more dangerously".

idk, the right response is to laugh in nordic or something?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Giving people over 80 a pile of taxi vouchers and taking away their licenses would probably be cheaper overall.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Fitzy Fitz posted:

There's a proposal to ban rights on red in Atlanta. I hope it passes.

This is solvable if you put a right turn arrow on every light when the right of way is clear, but

Rochallor posted:

Honestly in this society you might as well keep them legal, because drivers will constantly ignore them and police will never do anything about it, and it might give pedestrians the false impression that it's safe to cross the street.

This will happen instead.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Sure is hilarious when interest rates rather than purchase prices are the controlling factor on the affordability of cars, and rates going from 4% to 8% "doubles" the price of a car that still costs the same $25k or whatever.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I've seen ads for 84 months. They aren't vehicles anymore, they are a Lifestyle and only poors don't have the Lifestyle. You're not a poor, are you?

How else are you going to build truck equity as a pathway to wealth?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

mystes posted:

Some cars at least will vibrate the steering wheel and/or beep to warn you if you're backing up into something. I don't know if they'll actually stop on their own in that situation because you don't usually need emergency braking at low speeds, but maybe they should if people are that dumb.

simple solution, all cars should automatically brake any time they don't detect a hand on the steering wheel. any gear, any speed.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Clark Nova posted:

tesla's "self driving" feature is supposed to do that. the users have figured out how to wedge an orange into the steering wheel to defeat the sensor

Most auto driving systems warn you then turn off if they don’t get steering wheel input (real or fake). I’m saying the car should just slam on the brakes as soon as that happens.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

actionjackson posted:

true though that isn't really the chronic problem that cutting EV cables seems to be. maybe because the latter tend to be not tied to gas stations, where you have other people pumping gas as well as customers going in and out of the store.

some gas stations close at night. there's not much other than a few specialized bolts and a pump keeping someone out of the gas in the tanks, why isn't gasoline theft from underground tanks more common? apparently gas stations keep about 20k gallons on hand, that has to be a bigger score than any scrap metal.

Platystemon posted:

Gasoline is for its bulk one of the worst commodities you could possibly steal.

Who are you going to sell it to, anyway?

I can't think of a lot of commodities more fungible than gasoline. Move it into a legitimate supply chain for a slight discount, how would anyone ever know?

AreWeDrunkYet has issued a correction as of 05:22 on Jan 23, 2024

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

One of the hardest parts of riding a bike is actually accepting that you do not have to be going as fast as possible at all times.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006


Still safer for pedestrians than most pickups :shrug:

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

withak posted:

Learning that you can only go as fast as the person in front of you is a valuable life lesson.

I can accept that in a car or walking, but for some reason every person in front of me on a bike is a challenge. Even if we're all stopping in the same place in a bit.

idgaf if I'm on a bikeshare and you're on a carbon road bike, it is on.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

i say swears online posted:

even driving i have all four windows down 99% of the time, i feel so much more aware

Same. I have to put the windows up sometimes for a call, and looking at the speedometer is sometimes a wtf situation without the road and air noise.

HashtagGirlboss posted:

Not just blind people. Pedestrians and cyclists in general use traffic noise more than they realize unless you actually stop and actively think about it

Now I'm wondering if every vehicle should be required to make a sort of ping noise at a regular interval with the volume determined by weight. Doppler effect lets you know how fast it's going and from what direction, the volume lets you know the difference between someone's electric bike and 4 ton electric hummer.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Microplastics posted:

That guy is wearing a tshirt :stare:

If he hit something the clean up crew would have to soak him up with a sponge

As long as they put up a bond for cleanup costs, just let motorcyclists do what they want.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

The real issue is the slower traffic staying in the left lane.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

cars can be bad and pedestrians can be dumb, nothing contradictory

people can be dumb, that's just how things work. infrastructure is supposed to make sure that isn't fatal.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

LonsomeSon posted:

if there was a mechanism which instantaneously incinerated all cars that could have prevented this person’s injuries

or lower speed limits and better lines of sight near pedestrian traffic? more frequent marked crosswalks?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

The Maroon Hawk posted:

I think I like that guy's incinerator idea better

won't that just result in people getting run over by cars that are on fire?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

silicone thrills posted:

all the garbage truck bro poo poo aside:
one park 2 miles away is super depressing and indicative of how loving awful suburban america is. 2 miles is not close!

right, are the kids supposed to include an hour long round trip commute in their play time planning? don’t teach them ridiculous things just because life sucks for adults.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

gradenko_2000 posted:

I've never done it but I've always figured that if you really really wanted to get through a road blocked by cones (and there was no person on scene to stop you), you could get out of your car and move them out of the way

There's also a variety of reasons to keep some extra traffic cones in your trunk. Most people really do treat them like they're enchanted or something.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Microplastics posted:

I would like to hear the wild story

There are a few options!

quote:

Then-Honolulu Police Chief Susan Ballard said at the time that Thomas was a shoplifting suspect, and he ignored officers’ commands as they approached his vehicle. Instead of getting out, he drove toward them and they fired, she told reporters.

But the lawsuit says the two officers, Chance Correa and Ronald Dumlao, were in plainclothes and did not announce themselves as police when they approached. Thomas, his girlfriend and another friend who was in the car put their hands in the air before one of the officers smashed the driver’s side window and shot Thomas, the suit said.

The car was “at a complete stop” and posed no threat to the officers, the suit said.

Correa was fired in 2005 after he was involved in a car crash while off duty and was accused of fleeing the scene. He was later reinstated after his termination was converted to a six-month suspension.

In 2021, the Hawaii Law Enforcement Officer Independent Review Board ruled that Dumlao and Correa were justified in shooting Thomas and recommended that the officers not be prosecuted.

Dumlao is still employed as a police officer and Correa is a sergeant.

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Body camera videos obtained by Hawaii News Now show the sedan leaving Maili Beach Park after the officers broke up a party.

The car’s horn goes off as it exits the lot and one officer is heard saying he is “going to chase” the car — then he appears to turn off his body camera.

Officers Robert Lewis, Jake Bartolome and Erik Smith are accused of conspiring to cover up what happened.

They have all pleaded not guilty and are on restricted duty.

The defense has filed motions to dismiss the criminal case; a judge will address those in March.

Former deputy city prosecutor turned defense attorney Victor Bakke said it is unusual for civil lawsuits to settle ahead of the criminal case.

“In this case, it looks like the city is so willing to accept responsibility,” Bakke said, adding the city apparently wants to end the litigation “as soon as possible.“

“So that it doesn’t get any worse when things come out in the criminal trial.”

The city declined comment because the deal has not been finalized.

quote:

The Honolulu City Council approved a settlement Wednesday to four passengers and their families for a crash that involved three HPD officers in September 2021.

Three HPD officers are still on restricted duty for allegedly chasing the car ― without activating police lights or sirens ― then failing to stop and render aid.

Body camera videos obtained by Hawaii News Now show Officers Joshua Nahulu, Erik Smith and Jake Bartolome at the scene trying to get information from witnesses.

The Honolulu Prosecutor’s Office is looking at possible felony charges against the officers.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

As much as the surveillance state sucks, there's a lot of good reasons to track the movement of all registered vehicles on public roads by default. Pretty much eliminates the need for for police chases and most traffic enforcement.

Also enables average speed fines, which would create so much whining from drivers.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Are they being registered as experimental or something? Or have NHTSA testing results been released?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Platystemon posted:

Self‐certification is the sort of public–private partnership that all the cool kids love.

It’s worked out so well with Boeing.

Civil liability will keep them in line, surely it will work this time.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Do crash tests judge how much a car fucks up whatever it's hitting? If your solid block of steel hits a school bus and wipes out a bunch of children but the kid in your car seat is ok, is that a positive result?

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Horace posted:



they come at it from the financial cost of the fuel but still a little ahead of its time

Don't think this is quite accurate anymore. A full commercial jet (and they're a lot more full on average than they used to be) gets 50-100mpg/person. Cars/light trucks average somewhere around 25mpg and have 1.5 people in them on average, so about 38mpg/person.

Of course trains still win by a mile. But they didn't add the numbers for boats because it would make the trains look bad.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

ArmedZombie posted:

terminal car brain





AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

a proper carbon tax would make train rides the cheapest option by a wide margin

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

BonHair posted:

The main problem with getting your food delivered is that the added value to you is nowhere near as great as the value of the delivery guy's time, which means that they're getting underpaid (a lot) and you're getting overcharged. Also some techbros are ripping off you and the restaurants.

There's a time and place for it. A pizza or sandwich restaurant in a dense area can manage it for a small delivery radius with minimal fees. If the delivery person is hitting a bunch of people quickly, it can be worth it for everyone involved.

But yeah when an app schedules a driver for 2-3 deliveries an hour 15 miles apart, that's just not sustainable without ridiculous prices. On the other hand these apps also throw out escalating discounts if you ignore them for a while to the point it's not more expensive than picking up off the restaurant's original menu prices. Might as well get a bit of VC money from their marketing budget when it's offered.

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AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

best case scenario is it's a work vehicle in the construction zone that's escorting some more dangerous trucks. cops still do enforce traffic laws when they are personally annoyed.

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