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blarzgh posted:Would you prefer more traditional metrics, like how his 40 wins through his first four seasons are the 5th most by any QB in history? Where does his hat size rank among active quarterbacks
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fartknocker posted:Jared Lorenzen should be #1 on every list. The list is exclusively for alive QBs
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Phobeste posted:Football is a what-have-you-done-for-me lately sport and when I watched a lot of Cowboys games last year, let me tell you I didn't exactly see Dak Prescott leading his team to victory by hook or by crook and establishing himself as a starter in the National Football League. Quite honestly, he didn't even show up - and I think that's a problem. Lol, good bit
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Dak. Heh, well, he's no Tony Romo.
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https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2021/7/12/22574111/dak-prescott-ranked-as-the-seventh-best-quarterback-in-the-nfl I'n fairness, and contrary to my own position, a survey of NFL execs, players, coaches and scouts had Dak at 7th overall.
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josh Allen has two playoff victories to dak’s one. he’s better
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I told you all the nfc east thread was leaking but im the greta thumberg of tff
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BrownThunder posted:The list is exclusively for alive QBs Recency bias
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Doltos posted:I told you all the nfc east thread was leaking but im the greta thumberg of tff short and whiny, checks out
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I am fine with Herbert being better than Dak and the reason why is because Herbert is better at football than Dak
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I think Herbert is definitely in a better spot than Dak heading into this season and also has higher upside
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blarzgh posted:https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2021/7/12/22574111/dak-prescott-ranked-as-the-seventh-best-quarterback-in-the-nfl Most NFL execs are garbage. blarzgh posted:Or, you could blame it on the fact that Dallas has generally had a garbage defense for the last 5 years, how many times you score on the other team comes back and scores again. You know what, you're right. The great oline, RB, and WR group isn't enough. Dak isn't getting help from his defense. Next you're going to say it's because Dak plays in a tough division or something.
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Prescott, however, has not always been great against high-level teams. In 2019, Dallas was 1-6 against opponents that made the playoffs, with Prescott throwing for eight touchdowns to eight interceptions in those matchups. Against non-playoff teams, Prescott cleaned up, with 22 touchdowns to three interceptions and a 7-2 record. For his career, Prescott is 9-17 against eventual playoff teams.
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RawQBR = g(AdjustedEPA/ActionPlays) x Division Where g() is a function that scales from 0-100, where 50 is average and NFC East = 0
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Pretty good list, and I agree with 99% of it, but how is Jacob Eason, a former 4th rounder who didn't throw a pass last season, ahead of anyone? Or is he just supposed to be a generic placeholder for whoever the Colts trade for? Honestly, I'd be more offended if Wentz was ranked that high.
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syzpid posted:Pretty good list, and I agree with 99% of it, but how is Jacob Eason, a former 4th rounder who didn't throw a pass last season, ahead of anyone? Or is he just supposed to be a generic placeholder for whoever the Colts trade for? Hes basically a rookie, who I put at the bottom by default. But Eason has at least had a year in the system. That's my reasoning
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The Cousins apologists are relatively silent these days edit: also Tannehill stat posters
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Athanatos posted:I was going to say Dalton is too high, but then I looked at the names under him...and I guess not. It's called the Dalton line for a reason.
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I would: - Move Watson up between Wilson and Jackson - Move Prescott up between Jackson and Allen - Move Brady down between Stafford and Herbert - Flip Murray and Burrow - Flip Fitzpatrick and Ryan - Flip Dalton and Garoppolo - Move both Lock and Jones down after Darnold But the list is fine as-is tbh, good job
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Dubious posted:Prescott, however, has not always been great against high-level teams. In 2019, Dallas was 1-6 against opponents that made the playoffs, with Prescott throwing for eight touchdowns to eight interceptions in those matchups. Against non-playoff teams, Prescott cleaned up, with 22 touchdowns to three interceptions and a 7-2 record. For his career, Prescott is 9-17 against eventual playoff teams. 2019: Cowboys WRs - #1 Drops Cowboys D - T#27 in turnovers Cowboys D - T#32 in interceptions Cowboys K - #26 FG% Cowboys K - #28 points Games 4, 5, 11, and 15 (they were even money in G12) Game 4 - NOR 12, DAL 10: Zeke was handed the ball 18 times for a whopping 35 yards. Zeke and Witten both fumble in the game, giving NOR a two-possession advantage. Prescott still completed 66% of his passes. Game 5 - DAL 24, GB 34: Dak throws for 460 yards and 2 TDs. However, the Defense gives up 14 points in the first half, Maher misses 2 field goals, and Dallas WRs have 4 drops, two of which bounce off receiver's hands into GB interceptions. Two possession advantage for GB. Game 11 - NE 13, DAL 9: Close game, Dak throws for more yards than Brady in bad weather. Game 15: PHI 17, DAL 9: Dallas Defense gives up another 10 in the first quarter, DALLAS WRS HAVE 4 DROPS, Pollard fumbles, Defense gets 0 interceptions.
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MrLogan posted:Dak isn't getting help from his defense. When a team's defense allows 30+ points, the BEST quarterbacks in the NFL only win about 25% of their games. https://twitter.com/catchtheblitz/status/1264205320030769153?s=20 Dak is the 4th best. So yes, being a team game and all, having your defense give up points left and right will affect your QB WINNZZZZ Despite that fact Dak Still won more games in his first 4 seasons than all but 5 other quarterbacks Ever, in the History of football. Dubious posted:Prescott, however, has not always been great against high-level teams. In 2019, Dallas was 1-6 against opponents that made the playoffs, with Prescott throwing for eight touchdowns to eight interceptions in those matchups. Against non-playoff teams, Prescott cleaned up, with 22 touchdowns to three interceptions and a 7-2 record. For his career, Prescott is 9-17 against eventual playoff teams. Versus teams with a winning record: Dak Prescott 13-20 Aaron Rodgers 36-43 Baker Mayfield 6-14 Josh Allen 7-10 Justin Herbert 1-5 Deshaun Watson 7-19 Matthew Stafford 8-67
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This man loves him some Dak
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Now don't get me wrong we all like Dak, we all want to kiss Dak, we all want to feel Dak exploring our bodies
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When he lines up at the Dak buffet my man already scoops up seconds
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I feel like I'm at a yoga class
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joe burrow is almost in the top 15 of qbs
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Cavauro posted:joe burrow is almost in the top 15 of qbs When I rank QBs next August I think be will be in the top 15
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Ross thank you for understanding anything before 2020 doesn't matter
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I like Burrow a lot. He threw some darts last year. I was impressed watching games with him and Herbert all season. But also camp is supposed to be unbridled optimism time. I feel like the only pessimism QBs in the league right now out of camp are Burrow, Wilson and Hurts. Even Denver is loving the upgrade to Teddy. Unless I'm missing some yikes camp moments.
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blarzgh is putting out a truly impressive amount of volume, racking up some gaudy posting numbers, but in the end he's not going to actually accomplish anything and will go down as a footnote in history. I guess what I'm saying is he's the perfect poster posting the perfect posts to try and defend dak "maybe we'll lose in the nfc championship this year" prescott
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I think if I were playing QB, I'd simply elevate my play to support the struggles of the defense and give them some breathing room, but that's just me
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Chad Pennington should be ranked higher
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Phobeste posted:blarzgh is putting out a truly impressive amount of volume, racking up some gaudy posting numbers, but in the end he's not going to actually accomplish anything and will go down as a footnote in history. I guess what I'm saying is he's the perfect poster posting the perfect posts to try and defend dak "maybe we'll lose in the nfc championship this year" prescott I, for one, am impressed with his research skills.
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unl33t posted:I, for one, am impressed with his research skills. Yeah the big difference is he's always available to post this stuff
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It's been a slow day at work
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Chucktesla posted:Dak should be ranked lower due to all the advanced stats needed to show that he's good, actually
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I think Stafford will be a dark horse MVP Candidate this season
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The list is ok but I think any reasonable football fan would agree that Brady should have a ceremonial rank above 1, like how the US armed forces reserves the rank of 6 Star General solely for George Washington.
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Now do Dak's punt surrender index and scorigamis
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Phobeste posted:The quarterback ranked at number 5, Tom Brady, will be the one who wins this year's Super Bowl, which will be his eighth, just like he did last year. hello, are you a patriots fan or a brady fan? cheers, coolwhoami
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