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I kind of want to see the device go off and for it to have literally no effect on someone who's been through worse.
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SL the Pyro posted:What do you suppose April Fools' jokes are like in the city? Apparently they loving suck.
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A workshop-crafted assassination device with T Corp’s Singularity applied to it, bought just for you. You may have power, but you’re certainly gullible.
That’s what happens when you accept handshakes from those who oppose you without having a hint of doubt.
The device overloads the human brain, causing their mind to experience a thousand years of time passing by… Which is more than enough to ruin the average person’s brain. Just like the WARP trains, huh.
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I almost had to question myself for a moment when I heard that you crushed a good half of the Middle in the south. It was as if you were venting out all of your frustrations and resentment on the City. And if that were the case… I thought you might keep going and demolish the City itself out of sheer anger and madness.
How’re the others doing, anyway? Like Ogier or Astolfo.
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Synthbuttrange posted:I kind of want to see the device go off and for it to have literally no effect on someone who's been through worse. You know, I never considered that it wouldn't work, I just assumed Olivier was right and Angela was human enough at this point for it to work. It was a handful of receptions ago that she said she was forgetting, it could have escalated to the point she doesn't have enough defenses against this kind of attack. Maybe even a weakness because of personal trauma. NullBlack posted:Apparently they loving suck. If this is the City version of the joy buzzer, a snakes-in-peanut-brittle is probably the magical girl of hatred in a can.
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RandomReader posted:If this is the City version of the joy buzzer, a snakes-in-peanut-brittle is probably the magical girl of hatred in a can. Nah, this is much cheaper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAZqn4xfQZQ
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So, do they really reduce Colors down to 9th grade fixers as a consequence for rampaging across the entire city, or was Roland lying about that (I know, he's so honest in general it's hard to believe). It seems both insufficient as a punishment and out of character for the Hana Association to actually care. If anything it seems like it should get you designated a Star of the City or something.
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He was absolutely lying. Blue Cuckoo is still a color and he's been starting poo poo left and right. Pretty sure becoming a color isn't something you consent to, or which can be revoked.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:He was absolutely lying. Blue Cuckoo is still a color and he's been starting poo poo left and right. Pretty sure becoming a color isn't something you consent to, or which can be revoked. Maybe he's a Grade 9 Color. It seems like Colors are separate from the normal grading system. Sure, most of them are treated as "above Grade 1", but maybe being Grade 1 isn't strictly a requirement.
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There have been lies, and there have been omissions. The full truth is yet to show up.
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I get the feeling being labeled a Color is more of a general warning to everyone.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Roland, Olivier, Ogier and Astolfo are all names of fictional Paladins of Charlemagne (who would be the Charles mentioned here), so it's safe to say that this story is based in part on the epic poem Orlando Furioso, in which the Paladin Roland, after going incognito as a black knight, goes mad because of his love for the princess Angelica and only returned to sanity because of the intervention of his close friend Astolfo. Of course, there are differences - our Roland doesn't seem to have stripped naked at any point, Astolfo seems to have managed to simply talk Roland out of his berserk rampage instead of needing to retrieve his lost sanity from the moon, and the Furioso's Roland's love for Angelica was very much unrequited. My poor memory of Orlando Furioso suggests that LOR's Angelica, Oliver, and Angelica's brother also owe some inspiration from other characters in the work. The Roland equivalent is on the losing end of a love triangle with Angelica and a Moor. There are two knights enamored of pagan female knights. The other knight tries to find out more about his beloved by consulting her brother. Who is also a knight, who can pass for his sister if they trade armor.
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GilliamYaeger posted:our Roland doesn't seem to have stripped naked at any point, That we know of! Roland obviously had omitted details before!
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Keldulas posted:That we know of! Roland obviously had omitted details before! He was emotionally naked.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Literary inspiration This is one of the biggest reasons I love threads like this. Not only do I see great characterization inspired by the game's world, but I get to see more of the inspiration for the game itself. The little things like names and such, and the mention of the black silence(incognito as a black knight you say?), it's so freaking cool!
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If the Purple Tear coordinated this — I assume a previous run got Roland’s gloves destroyed along with his limbs for asking questions way back in the prologue?
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CommunityEdition posted:If the Purple Tear coordinated this — I assume a previous run got Roland’s gloves destroyed along with his limbs for asking questions way back in the prologue?
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GilliamYaeger posted:I'd assume they were confiscated by the Hana after Roland got busted down to Grade 9. I'm pretty sure that's specifically not the case. If The Man tried to take one of Roland's last mementos of better times, then I'm pretty sure he'd have started the murder spree right back up again in their offices, even if it meant his death. And he's not dead, so that didn't happen. Makes more sense to assume one of his friends came over, had a brief "what the gently caress was that, man," talk, and then took the gloves for his own good. Then Olivier went and got the gloves from them by virtue of being his best friend.
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I assumed Roland gave them to Olivier for safe-keeping.
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Junpei posted:I assumed Roland gave them to Olivier for safe-keeping. Could also be that Roland left them behind in his house as a mourning thing and Olivier picked them up to return to him now. There's plenty of good reasons Olivier could have them. The real question is if these gloves are fancy magitech gizmos or just fashion.
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I guess the glove could have something to do with the title of "black silence"? The Red Mist have her title that way because the one she killed turn into red mist. Maybe the glove could choke someone so hard they can't say a thing and call for help
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Einander posted:I'm pretty sure that's specifically not the case. If The Man tried to take one of Roland's last mementos of better times, then I'm pretty sure he'd have started the murder spree right back up again in their offices, even if it meant his death. And he's not dead, so that didn't happen. Makes more sense to assume one of his friends came over, had a brief "what the gently caress was that, man," talk, and then took the gloves for his own good. Then Olivier went and got the gloves from them by virtue of being his best friend.
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CommunityEdition posted:If the Purple Tear coordinated this — I assume a previous run got Roland’s gloves destroyed along with his limbs for asking questions way back in the prologue? "Olivier' posted:You have no idea the mess I had to clean up after you went missing... A bunch of thoughts came to my mind when you left after making a lengthy ramble. Not long after that… I heard news that a person who appeared to be the Black Silence was on a crazed rampage across the City. Fun fact I stumbled on: looking back through the Roland flashback cgs, we've never actually seen his hands wearing his gloves. Technically the opposite. In Chesed and Tiphereth's respective realizations, we see his hands, and he's going bare. That said, none of those situations were combat flashbacks, those are in Gebura's realization, where we never see his hands, or his weapon of choice.
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I would honestly assume Roland was stopped by the Project Moon version of Astolfo just because that's how the original story went and they do tend to know their literary reference materials.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I would honestly assume Roland was stopped by the Project Moon version of Astolfo just because that's how the original story went and they do tend to know their literary reference materials. TeeQueue posted:Concerto 2: Gebura—Sonata
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Don’t come any closer if you wanna live, Astolfo. I’ll cut you down if you try to stop me.
If only we could’ve moved into the Nest… It’s all my fault…
You’ve killed too many… Some may have been hopeless scum, but if you relish murdering so much… You’ll completely lose yourself!
That person was also right. I couldn’t see ahead. This whole time, I was only looking behind.
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IMJack posted:Or he gave them to Iori, who as part of her circuitous plan had Olivier deliver them back.
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Keldulas posted:That we know of! Roland obviously had omitted details before! Roland mentioned taking a WARP train a couple times, so if whatever happened on those trains counts, I would say there's a decent enough chance Roland did strip naked going crazy. Come to think of it, I remember the WARP cleanup crew mentioning that there's been at least one case of a color boarding a WARP train without a first class ticket and training everyone to fight or something like that while they were stuck, which caused a whole lot of trouble when the train arrived at its destination. I wonder if that might've been Roland.
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There's no evidence for now that Roland didn't go on a rampage naked, just that he went on a rampage. Could have been accurate to the source material as far as we know 
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You could argue that Roland entered the library metaphorically naked, stripped of his rank, title, and recognisable gear.
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RandomReader posted:Fun fact I stumbled on: looking back through the Roland flashback cgs, we've never actually seen his hands wearing his gloves. Technically the opposite. In Chesed and Tiphereth's respective realizations, we see his hands, and he's going bare. That said, none of those situations were combat flashbacks, those are in Gebura's realization, where we never see his hands, or his weapon of choice. Well yeah, you can't just show off the combat oboe! It's very important that it be kept hidden for just the right moment!
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:There's no evidence for now that Roland didn't go on a rampage naked, just that he went on a rampage. Could have been accurate to the source material as far as we know Dirk the Average posted:Well yeah, you can't just show off the combat oboe! It's very important that it be kept hidden for just the right moment! Doubt it's a combat oboe, they already did that. Besides, he's the Black Silence, not the Black Music-thwack. Clearly his chosen weapon was a pair of chained-together rest notes, like nunchucks.
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He punches people in the throat and crushes their larynx. No more sounds.
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RandomReader posted:Doubt it's a combat oboe, they already did that. Besides, he's the Black Silence, not the Black Music-thwack. Clearly his chosen weapon was a pair of chained-together rest notes, like nunchucks. See that's the thing, if he uses the oboe then it's even more unexpected! They expect his weapon to be quiet, and then DOOT! Comboat Oboe to the forehead!
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Wait, I just realized. Who could be more appropriate as the Black Silence than a Librarian. Just imagine him stalking through the library, shushing anyone speaking above a whisper.
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NullBlack posted:
the people demand the full image. And then Angela shows up and everyone bolts.
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  If we can trust these imitates form chesed Realization and urban plague prologue Roland dis not seem to wear gloves, his wife on the other hand did but these are snapshots so who is to say what happened at the very least Roland did rampage. Also the hana info does say they can’t call the blue sicko a fixer anymore as he is a Syndicate now that is a star of the city. GOI fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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NullBlack posted:
You're looking for the arts floor.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:He was absolutely lying. Blue Cuckoo is still a color and he's been starting poo poo left and right. Pretty sure becoming a color isn't something you consent to, or which can be revoked. Artbook says that he had his fixer title revoked, color and all, due to starting a syndicate.
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