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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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welcome to the NEW lgbt thread. this is a chat thread for da gays and people who want to talk about lgbt manga/anime/etc. in practice this means there is a lot of crossover with the shoujo thread. but this is a more casual chat style thread so there are less things off topic— like we started discussing horror movies a bit last thread and it prob come up again.

You don't have to be a card carrying homo to post here but no performative allyship, people got weird last thread. Avoid posting personal details, LGBT threads have been targeted by offsites before. Be mindful of what ya link, most series have tags on them but if you think the tags don't cover content that can be triggering or you think it should especially be noted do so. Try to avoid going too guns ablazin on everything you disagree with. Everyone who posts here is likely going to be passionate about lgbt meda and its probable they're lgbt themselves.

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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i thought about using the second post here to be a list of recs from people in the thread but i decided against it. i think it would be a good idea for the first few pages though if anyone wants to rec stuff in general to do so since this is what people are going to see first when they click the thread.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Pollyanna posted:

I honestly wish there was more outright trans rep in anime and manga. Maybe I’ve just been missing it, but most of the non-cisnormative rep is couched in “haha gender-nonconforming presentation but nope actually definitely a boy!!”. Which is all well and good, GNC rep is important, but we’re just outright rare in comparison.

It actually kinda bugs me, and I think a lot of it is authors either being too scared to fully commit, or chasing some fetishistic 4chan-style fad. Cause I know for a fact that there’s Japanese trans people, so it’s not some ethnocentric “this concept doesn’t exist in the East” bullshit.

The trans/GNC rep we do get is often of the idealistic anime waifu garbage nature too. I’d really love to see more realistic, non-turbofemme rep. Gimme some bikers or programmers or something (not biased, I promise). Double House and Shimanami Tasogare were great about this sort of thing.

i mean i think its getting better over the years. i dunno, i don't think its exactly fair to say people are scared to commit or are chasing "fads" like the video I link in the OP there mangaka wrote something kinda problematic but like you watch it and you are like "well this does seem like it came out of their own dysphoria." like there can be complexities with this stuff, still sucks though.

e: also im annoyed with you because of the programmers meme >:i

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 26, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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its on dynasty reader

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Alright, so continuing a conversation from the intermediary thread:

I get what you're saying, but I think there's a difference between "I've been with men and now I'm with a woman for the first time and it's very different than it's been with any guy" and "I've been with both men and women before, and I like both".
The first can be interpreted to mean that it's just a person who's been in the closet so much that they've even been lying to themselves (which is sadly still a thing to this day), so it doesn't really strike me as the best example of a bisexual character, but maybe I'm just being too picky.

Having said all of that though, I haven't actually read either of the ones you're talking about, because they're not yet completely scanlated/translated, and I like to read stories in one sitting (or as close to it as it's possible).
So I'm definitely looking forward to them.

As to you mentioning that it exists in manhwa, I just finished Ring My Bell, and it does also have a character who's into both women and men - but again, it's "just" a side character, and unless the author follows it up with another series focusing on the story of the side characters, it isn't exactly the kind of ending that I'd wish for, if I had a choice in the matter.

ahh yeah completely get that. i had it mind and i think the stuff i mention avoids that, i can't remember exactly how Would be Great went though. but like in this case the character in Love Song is a miss opportunity for another character, confesses she loved her too but she loves her current boyfriend so she isn't going to break up with him and turns her down but it ends amicably

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Program Me, while being rather fetishistic with some BDSM elements, features two programmers.

they aren't trans... but i do like it yeah

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i wish there was more stuff like double house yeah but i do get a lot out of wish fulfillment stuff like this so i don't end up complaining much. also im hot irl so i don't get disappointed by them not looking like me cause im better lookin' B)

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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BlankSystemDaemon posted:

Windmill slam Tokyo Godfathers.
Probably also one of my all-time favorite movies.

Also, I just realize I completely missed the point of your post, and thought you were saying there should be more trap characters, so please feel free to call me an idiot, because I am one. :(

please lets make this the only instance of this word being used

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i think that one is fine? like the other thing implies trickery and predatory behavior and while what you are saying can be sexualized it does just read more on the face of it just describing "this is a nonconforming presentation"

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Pollyanna posted:

I used to be really into that stuff, like 2007-2008 era. It's been over 13 years since I transitioned and it all rings very...not hollow, but differently. Kinda like the change from the silver age to the dark age of comic books.

i really want to make fun of you for the comic books comparison here you dork.
but yeah i do understand that. something bothers me, which you are not doing tbc, is when some trans people imply like everyone is going to grow out of liking stuff like this once they transition. i understand where it comes from since, it may be seen as more fetishistic and i think people inherently want to get away from that since a line used by TERFs is all of this is just a fetish.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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im going to do some quick general recs since nobody else is doing them, sob sob
its going to be all yuri because that is mostly what i read

Amano Shuninta's Sweet Guilty Love Bites. About a group of hostesses. Short and sweet, multiple couples.
Octave tends to be a classic go to recommendation on here, but for good reason. Its weird and introspective, and the author's recent one shots have been really good.
Still Sick... is still sick! Read Still Sick. It has OLs and they draw gay manga and stuff.

Some ongoing stuff

tmfly's So Do You Want To Go Out Or. Its good. Read it. its good. Read it.
Ise-san and Shima-san. Its tag as subtext but the one lady is straight up comes out of the closet and the author is drawing art of the other one gnawing on her affectionately when she gets drunk so...Its a cute series I like it
only two chapters so far but Maitsuki, Niwatsuki, Ooyatsuki has some really attractive art, the premise has been solid, and i have high hopes for it[/url]

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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bees asked for it to be removed, it sounds like it will be moved back but will remain closed

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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It was bee's decision, it had nothing to do with that and implying that the old thread was closed for that reason is creepy imo.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Acerbatus posted:

Could just be a coincidence then, I'd asked Julias about having clearer guidelines about some of the stuff that got posted and figured he was taking the opportunity for a new thread.

Specifically it was closed because of you and I rather you not post in this thread as well. You sent PMs last night asking for a link to get removed in the previous thread to a manga you said bothered you that was posted months ago. In the thread you made a quote expressing interest in this chapter and said you wanted it to get trashier. Once the link was removed you edited your own post in question to remove that you ever had an interest in the story.

The manga in question was chapter 2 of My Girlfriend's Not Here Today. There was a three panel sex scene between high schoolers that while I don't find personally problematic or pornographic I had no issues to removed it while I was asked. I do have an issue with the fact that you seem to want it remove in what is either a game to you or a move to protect your own back out of paranoia someone would call you out for liking the manga.

Bees closed the thread not out of the thread being full of stuff being over the line but a misguided attempt to fight back against you.
You have a history of being a terror in LGBT spaces on this forum, I think the appropriate fresh start here would be to keep you out.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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I have no interest in debating you but to clarify a few things

i talked to bee's about this because i was venting, it was her thread, no mods or admins contacted her

even if you weren't the one who edited your post

this was referring to the manga you apparently had a problem with

i don't want you here, call it a grudge if you want. don't try to make this about you taking a noble stand because any number of lgbt posters on these forums can report in on your issues in the past. personally, i am disgusted with this. these issues get to me, and the fact that its being turn into some sort of game for you upsets me.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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stop responding to acerbatus, lets wait for a mod i don't want this to be the entirety of page 2 of this thread for future readers.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Monicro posted:

On this exact note: hi gamers im gay and wanna consume more of That Gay poo poo but ive never read manga before at all and dont really know where to start; i know you posted some general recs last page (and ill check them out!!) but are there any like, hall of fame must-reads out there for someone like me who's totally new

I mentioned Octave but it's def a hall of fame must read

Uhh if you want "getting started" stuff in general though I would recommend checking out Takemiya Jin's Absurd Relationship, and authors like Morishima Akiko (love Office Romance: Women's Division and check out Yuri Friends in the one shots down below its her and a bunch other women yuri authors going to a bikini club)
Both are like the classic examples of lesbians making yuri manga, though there are many others.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Ibblebibble posted:

I can't bring myself to read Run Away With Me Girl because I mostly like fluffier stuff but enough people have told me about it that I'm glad that more people are reading it.

As per the thread, I'm just an IK but I know most of your regulars and I think you're all mature enough to know what is and what is not appropriate to post here without a concrete rule in the OP or anything. Please don't escalate this to the point that I have to throw out probes. Enjoy your readings.

Can't ya, at the very least, probe the person all the gay people in the gay thread (and in numerous other gay threads) don't like... So they don't post here until we get someone higher up here to deal with them.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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great start of a new page Yuu, i love you

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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i like femfemmes :pien:

e: oh yeah forgot to address this

Toalpaz posted:

This thread had a lot more character with the horror tag. :sigh:

yeah the joke was we talked about horror movies in the last thread but someone pointed out it could be taken the wrong way

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Oh i want to mention something I read yesterday. The other day i was browsing twitter and came across of an ad for a Korean manwha with a very hot cover


(no nudity here but i wouldn't exactly call it work safe so im putting it in spoilers)

I seen it translated as both Hateful Woman or Hateful Lady. Anyway i read the first translated chapter yesterday. At first it was doing that cliche I don't like of "woman who attracts other women! but she likes men!!" with the MC (middle lady in the pic) but it took a sudden swerve. It showed she is just a straight up serial flirt with women and asks an out lesbian if she makes her horny. Absolute trash protagonist, I love her.
Def on the smutty side of things.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Monicro posted:

sure, sure, but consider: girls in suits

eyes pop out of my head like that one wolf in the droopy the dog cartoon

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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SyntheticPolygon posted:

They were linked in the previous thread but I got around to checking out the new 2DK chapters.

I wasn't feeling the first couple of chapters once translation started up again but I liked these latest ones. Glad someone picked it up again.

Yeahhh the stuff with the other mangaka was kinda weird though I still do like her character.
The latest stuff with the previous roommate is real good though im here for it. I would fall for her hard.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Scream is better.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Aurora posted:

what teh....

you are supposed to be my ally of tricking people here into watching scream... sob sob

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Aug 27, 2021

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Feb 16, 2013

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Aurora posted:

i think the most hosed up part of anything scream related is that dead by daylight got the rights to the ghost face mask instead of the scream films so tehy just have their own entirely original dude that is the ghost face killer

i mean its not out of step with the ghost face being a persona that people assume but i wish it was scream so it could have ingame references to the movies. also a sidney survivor

i never played that game and don't think it would be my type of thing but looking at it from the outside it does seem pretty wild, like the whole making an animated opening for the K-Pop singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iowkiPobYYQ

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

Citrus+ more like Citrus-2 hours as I caught up to current on it.

i been liking it a lot more then Citrus, which kinda had some pacing problems and a rough start (which, hey it was their first manga so understandable)

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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ZenMasterBullshit posted:

It's very good I like the main pairing a lot but I want more focus on some of the side characters, but I also want some of the side characters to not exist anymore so I guess it averages out to fine.

I think I know who you are talking about but thankfully they haven't pop up much in +
even ignoring everything else they were just kinda a nothing duo that added zilch.

I want more of the weirdo detective character who felt like she fell out of a horror manga... Please give me more of her...

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Monicro posted:

On this exact note: hi gamers im gay and wanna consume more of That Gay poo poo but ive never read manga before at all and dont really know where to start; i know you posted some general recs last page (and ill check them out!!) but are there any like, hall of fame must-reads out there for someone like me who's totally new

two more for you
lonely wolf, lonely sheep - two women with the same name and injury meet each other by coincidence in the hospital
strawberry shake sweet - mid 2000s manga, idols. has a classic romcom feel to it.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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reread this last night
also this one shot of theirs i love

ZiegeDame posted:

This is describing the latest chapter of Can't Defy the Lonely Girl. Unless Whispering You a Love Song coincidentally had the same exact plot beat in the latest chapter as well

oh you are right totally, i somehow completely got the titles mix up in my head, probably because i was reading both in the same day, silly mistake

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Aug 27, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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I Am Fowl posted:

Kill Switch: Korean romance with lesbians and motorcycles, drama, and occasional nudity!

using this as an excuse to share this
https://twitter.com/epxmxx/status/1430579580851539970
relationship guidelines creator

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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oh reposting this one from the last thread in case people missed it during the move.



Ohsawa Yayoi (Hello Melachonic, 2dk) one shot
its really good, puppy woman rights!

ok i already been posting too much here lol, going to distract myself with video games

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Karasu Tengu posted:

What's some good lesbian/lgbt stuff that's not strictly a romance story? There's a lot of good romance suggestions in here but sometimes (often) I'm in the mood for something less romance focused.

double house
autobiographical stuff like lesbian experience and honey & honey
not lesbian focus but Yuureitou. very problematic but it's a giallo film in manga form with gender stuff
himegoto juukyuusai no seifuku is also incredibly messy

those later two both need cw on sexual assault, and Yuureitou is honestly a bit lovely with some of its gender stuff.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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LibrarianCroaker posted:

Murcielago is an action thing about a lesbian serial killer. Lots of violence, don't remember if there's any sexual assault in it but I wouldn't be surprised.

100% there is.
I would second the recommendation though, very very messy but its fun if you can handle it. I thought about throwing that one earlier but decided to keep my problematic recs to 2 per post lol.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Aug 29, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Argas posted:

Any recommendations lesbian/lgbt stuff in a fantasy setting? Romance fine but doesn't need to be the main focus.

How fantasy does it need to be?

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Argas posted:

Hmmm, probably starts at not being set in the real world. Magic and stuff is fine but it doesn't absolutely need the more standard injection of fantasy fare.

Moonlight Garden isn't the best written thing but if you enjoy disguises and mistaken identity + mean ladies its pretty serviceable.
Its smut and the conceit revolves around a historical fantasy lesbian brothel where all the women are "flowers" which they are not allowed to leave so thereissues around consent (which is a point of the story)

Thought about throwing in a rec for Her Shim-Cheong but that is more of an "re-imagined folklore" setting (so set in our world) and is mostly historical though there are fantasy elements.

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Aug 29, 2021

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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took a glance at that twitter account and this is also good
https://twitter.com/DfLmanga/status/1432057610841333768
https://twitter.com/DfLmanga/status/1432057760644882439

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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this feels tiresome and hand wringing to me from both sides here.
everybody's homework is to watch the seventh victim this weekend.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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yeah its lovely and the earlier posts were weird and hand wringing about drawing on where exactly the lovely scale they were and but on the other hand like coming into the thread and like taking an extreme tact with other posters and positioning in a stance they weren't taking sucks too so lets just move on because im already bored of this

Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Sep 5, 2021

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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

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SyntheticPolygon posted:

I'm probably not going to watch the seventh victim.

its pretty good its written by the guy who did cat people who was a closeted gay man so he put subtext lesbians in all his movies during the hayes code period

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