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Catpetter1981 posted:The great ghost haunting Labour this week was that of a leader who left almost a decade and a half ago. a pipe smoking dog posted:It's an amazing headline on two levels because The tories are pursuing their ideological crushing of the poor and foreign because Labour is in dissarray. Labour are assuming that the tories ate being so nakedly evil that they can purge the left and gently caress about with internal structures and still win. The uniting philosophy on both sides is that 'now is not the time' for better things. E: bog 
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therattle posted:Why aren't those police being prosecuted for perjury, as well as assault? (This is a rhetorical question, I sadly know the answer). if anything, since police are supposed to be trained for their job, the standard for not firing their asses then charging them should be higher than for a random citizen doing a self defense
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Wouldn't it be awful if someone without the proper credentials drove an HGV full of petrol into Scotland Yard. Just terrible! Thankfully there are measures in place to make sure such a ridiculous scenario could never happen.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:A spectre is haunting the Labour party, apparently. yes, duh i honestly can't tell if i'd prefer a lovely
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Umbra Dubium posted:Wouldn't it be awful if someone without the proper credentials drove an HGV full of petrol into Scotland Yard. you know that if it happened the conclusion would be to put ugly concrete planters all around scotland yard and also lock up some brown people to show resolve, nothing more
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therattle posted:Why aren't those police being prosecuted for perjury, as well as assault? (This is a rhetorical question, I sadly know the answer). If you prosecuted every cop who lied on the stand for perjury you wouldn't have a police force (not necessarily a bad thing). One of the more common things is cops trying to beef up 'assaulting a police officer' charges by lying about the person being arrested spitting on them - which I've seen repeatedly disproved by bodycam and dashcam footage (like if the defendant was face down on the bonnet of a car the entire time). It's so commonplace that it's honestly not worth reporting, at worst the judge might say something about how disappointed he is in the police witness evidence, but you're lucky if you get that.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:A spectre is haunting the Labour party, apparently. Yeah the overriding attitude is "we don't care because you don't have an alternative". Unfortunately for Kieth this is true for Tories but not for labour voters who will happily vote for greens/nats/lib dems depending on their location and level of meltiness.
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Necrothatcher posted:If you prosecuted every cop who lied on the stand for perjury you wouldn't have a police force (not necessarily a bad thing). again, because police are trained for their loving job the standard should be if they don't act in a squeaky clean way it's assault for a bullshit arrest, perjury for lying about it and also getting fired with a lifetime ban on working in police
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a pipe smoking dog posted:It's an amazing headline on two levels because Kteith is an op. Destroying the opposition is his loving job and he's doing very well at it.
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endlessmonotony posted:So the current status of Brexit is "we'll force the criminals to drive the guzzoline rigs"? britain is a bad setting for mad max while the people are appropriately inbred and deformed, the weather is too miserable most of the year
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the standard spiel I’ve seen in cop trials is “well that’s not how I remember it”, because someone who can not distinguish between reality and imagination is definitely someone you want to have enforcing law
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Julio Cruz posted:the standard spiel I’ve seen in cop trials is “well that’s not how I remember it”, because someone who can not distinguish between reality and imagination is definitely someone you want to have enforcing law and then their cop buddy absolutely will not contradict them. Like, cop witnesses will openly be sat outside courtrooms in little huddles getting their stories straight before giving evidence. It's not even something they bother to hide.
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This sort of "ordinary working people rejected looney left Labour" thing really winds me up. It's always helpful to have figures to deploy to these sorts of people:  Even in 2019 (let alone 2017), the plurality of voters who are in work (taking out the retired and the unemployed, although the unemployed also mostly voted Lab) voted Labour. The only ones that didn't were those on household incomes above £100k. It was the overwhelming desire of people 50+ and retired to vote Conservative, and the geographical loving that FPTP generates, that delivered Johnson's majority.
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He did. https://bywire.news/articles/exclusive-mysterious-deleted-tweet-about-keir-starmers-relationship-with-his-personal-assistant
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Necrothatcher posted:and then their cop buddy absolutely will not contradict them. again, code of conduct should be occifers who are to testify get sequestered and not doing that is an instant firing regardless of whether it's guilty or not in court
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being a police officer should be inconvenient and put you under extra scrutiny. that probably makes it way more expensive but if cops are given powers beyond regular citizens (yeah yeah not technically the case in the uk, except where it actually is, but come on in practice it is for pretty much everything) then making sure cops aren't power tripping assholes should be worth a few quid
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suck my woke dick posted:britain is a bad setting for mad max  
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bessantj posted:I'd hate to think of the logistical gently caress ups that would happen if they used actual prisoners. I have bad news for you regarding "prisoners with jobs."
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suck my woke dick posted:again, code of conduct should be occifers who are to testify get sequestered and not doing that is an instant firing regardless of whether it's guilty or not in court It should be, but it's not going to happen anytime soon. Honestly the best you can do is assume that the police - and anyone who wants to join - is going to be a piece of poo poo and do your best to mitigate that. You can't really fix the cops, but stuff like bodycams, dashcams, and the public regularly filming the police are the best solution.
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Modern office-based jobs being increasingly concentrated in cities and urban centres has been poo poo for parties dependant on actual working people rather than retirees whose incomes are not dependent on their actual location or situation has been poo poo for workers yea. Also surprised by the minimum wage poll - it's high enough I thought people would be scared off by it being unreasonable, but it's also high enough it's a pay rise for anyone under a full time salary of £28860 soooo
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suck my woke dick posted:britain is a bad setting for mad max Max Gammon
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From a few pages back, butgoddamnedtwisto posted:Surprisingly not as apocalyptic as you might expect. Again covid has probably masked a lot of stuff here but for the most part banks have moved their putative HQs to EU cities but the actual trading is still going on in London because of our truly world class I am reminded of that Mark Blyth quote where he said that even though Brexit is hurting Britain badly and it will hurt for the next five years at least, Britain speaks the international language of finance (English), has the best technology and best facilities as you mentioned, and is in the best possible time zone to trade with the United States, so yeah, the English financial services industry isn't going to up sticks and move en masse any time soon. (Unless it moves to Ireland, but that seems unlikely.)
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I'm up for flying a homemade autogyro around Derbyshire.
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These days I'd vote yes to a £100/hr minimum wage just because I know whatever actually comes of it - if anything - will be super watered down in any case.
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suck my woke dick posted:britain is a bad setting for mad max DO NOT, MY FRIENDS, BECOME ADDICTED TO THE WATER *starts pouring down*
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Necrothatcher posted:You can't really fix the cops Oh I dunno, gis a pair of garden shears...
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BalloonFish posted:This sort of "ordinary working people rejected looney left Labour" thing really winds me up. Working people starts at about £40k with them.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm up for flying a homemade autogyro around Derbyshire. Somewhere on archive.org there's an old magazine with plans to build your own autogyro that just casually mentions, right at the end, that it's almost certainly illegal to fly and even if it wasn't you'd need someone to teach you how to fly it and as it was a single seater that was going to be tricky. I should probably see if I can find that again, but given I found it accidentally while searching for something else entirely the chances of finding it deliberately are near zero even if I *don't* get diverted off into reading a 1930s article about how to make radium at home for fun and profit or something.
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Venomous posted:From a few pages back, but It's mostly been a case of banks setting up the required compliance and finance functions in EU countries to tick the regulatory boxes without moving the actual decision-makers. They generally haven't fired the UK equivalents of those people but long-term there there will probably be some reduction in the number of those roles that are UK based.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Labour are assuming that the tories ate being so nakedly evil that they can purge the left and gently caress about with internal structures and still win. I doubt that. 2019 was already a loooong shot, coming back from after that to actually winning next time would be pretty unprecedented in UK electoral history. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Sep 30, 2021 |
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OJ has always been broadly well-intentioned but a bit on the melty side, so this is quite some language from him: https://twitter.com/sankarawasright/status/1443588608166793233?s=21
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I mean melty by our standards maybe but apart from a brief wobble always pro-Corbyn and when Starmer won he was like 'let's give the guy a chance and see if it he actually meant it about unity and those 10 pledges', which, like, I think he was as dubious about that as the rest of us tbh. He's been mad at Starmer for quite a while now on twitter.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Somewhere on archive.org there's an old magazine with plans to build your own autogyro that just casually mentions, right at the end, that it's almost certainly illegal to fly and even if it wasn't you'd need someone to teach you how to fly it and as it was a single seater that was going to be tricky. e: link.
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Home bargains trip report 3 completely empty chest freezers and a 4th almost empty apart from 11 ready meals, a bag of alphabites and a solitary box of ice lollies. (Been this way for a week now) Fresh milk looking sparse. Went to Waitrose yesterday sad looking half empty ice cream freezers and other frozen delights.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Home bargains trip report You should have gotten the Alphabites, they're delicious and you can write yourself lil haikus if you're hungry enough
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Somewhere on archive.org there's an old magazine with plans to build your own autogyro that just casually mentions, right at the end, that it's almost certainly illegal to fly and even if it wasn't you'd need someone to teach you how to fly it and as it was a single seater that was going to be tricky. Isn't the autogyro the highest K:D ratio of any form of transport? Seems insanely suicidal, by which I mean we should crowdfund to buy one for Farage
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Darth Walrus posted:OJ has always been broadly well-intentioned but a bit on the melty side, so this is quite some language from him: Am increasingly of the opinion that the Labour right don't give a poo poo about Starmer or have any expectations of him leading them into an election, and only have him in to do as much of the dirty work as possible before his position with the entire membership (or what's left of it) is completely untenable so they can then bring someone in to take over with a clean pair of hands.
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