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syzpid posted:I was curious, Andy Reid's longest tenured OC was Marty Mornhinweg with 7 years in Philly under him. Mornhinweg was never going to get another HC job though because Reid hired him coming off that hideous 5-27 two year stint leading the Lions.
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Browns have a QB coach again. Haven't had one since Ryan Lindley under Kitchens. https://twitter.com/dan_labbe/status/1497294297183539203
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Browns have a QB coach again. Haven't had one since Ryan Lindley under Kitchens. Maybe he can make Baker less bad at football
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DariusLikewise posted:Maybe he can make Baker less bad at football Going by his absolute refusal to work with QB coaches in the off season and that we haven't had one in 2 years I think it's more likely he tries to fight the guy.
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Diva Cupcake posted:He hasn't lacked interviews so maybe he just sucks at them. I wonder how much being around people who are also interviewing or have recently interviewed helps as well. I imagine that Shanahan, McVay, LaFleur, Taylor, McDaniel and O'Connell are all using personalized variations of the same interview blueprint.
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Diva Cupcake posted:He hasn't lacked interviews so maybe he just sucks at them. Yeah, this is a thing that happens. Dave Toub has had like a dozen interviews for head-coaching positions over the past decade-plus, and given his track record as an assistant (and how warmly his players speak of him), you'd think someone would have given him a chance--poo poo, it was considered a given he'd get the Colts job when Chris Ballard took over there--but he's still a special teams coach for Kansas City. At some point you have to assume he just interviews extremely poorly.
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I don't think there is any particular reason to believe that interviewing well has any bearing on whether a coach will be successful or not. I would go so far to say that claims about how candidates interviewed are just expressions of owners and GMs biases during the interview process.
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Simplex posted:I don't think there is any particular reason to believe that interviewing well has any bearing on whether a coach will be successful or not. I would go so far to say that claims about how candidates interviewed are just expressions of owners and GMs biases during the interview process. Good interviews is how stupid owners end up hiring Joe Philbin.
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Simplex posted:I don't think there is any particular reason to believe that interviewing well has any bearing on whether a coach will be successful or not. I would go so far to say that claims about how candidates interviewed are just expressions of owners and GMs biases during the interview process. This is basically interviewing.txt in general so I’m sure you’re right. In the computer toucher world I’ve sat through so many interviews on both sides of the table where a candidate didn’t get selected because they didn’t know one pet bit of trivia the interviewer considered crucial despite being excellent in all other regards. And that’s without like 70 years of hubris brought in by nobody ever disagreeing with you like a billionaire nfl exec.
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I don’t think interviewing well has much bearing on how good a coach they’d be, but it probably helps inform whether the owner/GM want to work alongside this person for the next 3-5.
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It's a big job to be a head coach beyond the coaching part. These are billionaires entrusting their delicate investment to be babysat and they want someone who has a well thought out plan. Or at least that's what I tell myself and then they go and hire Adam Gase and my theory goes 
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kiimo posted:It's a big job to be a head coach beyond the coaching part. These are billionaires entrusting their delicate investment to be babysat and they want someone who has a well thought out plan. They want their egos coddled first, and the number to go up second. For most owners a franchise is a vanity investment.
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Most of the owners are philanthropists first, job creators second. If they happen to make a couple bucks along the way, great.
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Diva Cupcake posted:I don’t think interviewing well has much bearing on how good a coach they’d be, but it probably helps inform whether the owner/GM want to work alongside this person for the next 3-5. Harbaugh didn't get the Vikings job because he tanked the interview.
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fsif posted:Most of the owners are philanthropists first, 
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A good interview doesn't mean you'll be good at the job but if you suck at interviewing for a multimillion dollar job there's no reason whatsoever to take a risk on you not to suck at the actual job. You can't guarantee yourself a job with an interview but you can play yourself right out of one, basically.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Going by his absolute refusal to work with QB coaches in the off season Cleveland Ben Simmons??
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indigi posted:Cleveland Ben Simmons?? God I wish this would result in us getting James Harden. We probably did with OBJ though
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The Bucs hired Bob Sanders to be the new OLB coach. Bob Sanders owned as a player.
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wandler20 posted:The Bucs hired Bob Sanders to be the new OLB coach. Bob Sanders owned as a player. He did but sorry you are getting old white Bob Sanders.
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Hand Row posted:He did but sorry you are getting old white Bob Sanders. Well that's certainly disappointing and Twitter is full of lies.
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bob sanders the player was also a safety so him coaching OLBs would be weird
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a neat cape posted:bob sanders the player was also a safety so him coaching OLBs would be weird Kevin Sumlin was a linebacker and his first coaching job was coaching WRs. His head coaching career ended badly but he had some pretty drat good offenses for a time
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fast cars loose anus posted:Kevin Sumlin was a linebacker and his first coaching job was coaching WRs. His head coaching career ended badly but he had some pretty drat good offenses for a time I didn't say it's never been done, just that it's kinda weird and unexpected. Anyways I want player Bob Sanders to coach if he wants to coach now
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https://twitter.com/AZCardinals/status/1499053752229138435?t=witIsDzNykD3PTX46tFjjA&s=19 Aren't cards fans pretty down on both of these guys
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a neat cape posted:I didn't say it's never been done, just that it's kinda weird and unexpected. It wasnt meant to be a slam  just an interesting fact
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Chucktesla posted:https://twitter.com/AZCardinals/status/1499053752229138435?t=witIsDzNykD3PTX46tFjjA&s=19 Somehwat, but they are still the guys who brought the Cardinals out of the shadow realm and into competing for division leads and having playoff games. So not that surprising after the turnaround they initiated, they just need to figure out how to keep the momentum into the back half of the season and the playoffs. A little curious what Kyler's relationship with them is like. Are they part of his grievances?
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gently caress Bob Sanders (the player) (also possibly the coach, I don't know anything about him)
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extending keim till 2027 seems like more proof that the cardinals have zero introspection at the executive level. this is enough time for murray to have a moderate injury and then have a flirt with the playoffs at age 30 that ultimately ends in nothing. only question is does 2026 keim trade for an ancient bosa or aaron donald? and who is the mandatory pickup from the steelers?
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hifi posted:extending keim till 2027 seems like more proof that the cardinals have zero introspection at the executive level. this is enough time for murray to have a moderate injury and then have a flirt with the playoffs at age 30 that ultimately ends in nothing. only question is does 2026 keim trade for an ancient bosa or aaron donald? and who is the mandatory pickup from the steelers? It's clearly the other Watt brothers.
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Chucktesla posted:https://twitter.com/AZCardinals/status/1499053752229138435?t=witIsDzNykD3PTX46tFjjA&s=19 Keim is better than *nuclear waste dump representing tenure before him* but he can't draft outside rounds 2/3 with consistency, signs old rear end FA hoping his medical staff can keep them on the field, etc. I think Kliff is Matt Nagy with better PR.
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Hope Cardinals fans are cool with 5-1 starts followed by 3-8 finishes because isn’t that all Kliff is good for, even before Kyler?
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Forrest on Fire posted:Keim is better than *nuclear waste dump representing tenure before him* but he can't draft outside rounds 2/3 with consistency, signs old rear end FA hoping his medical staff can keep them on the field, etc. Who are the gms who “draft…with consistency” every round? I’m aware this is a softball for people who hate their gm have fun everybody
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DeimosRising posted:Who are the gms who “draft…with consistency” every round? I’m aware this is a softball for people who hate their gm have fun everybody Arizona first rounders since 2011: 12 - Michael Floyd 13 - Jonathan Cooper 14 - Deone Bucannon (the only AZ jersey I own) 15 - DJ Humphries 16 - Nkemdieche 17 - Hassan Reddik 18 - Josh Rosen (traded up) 19 - Kyler Murray (owns) 20 - Isaiah Simmons (obvious pick) 21 - Zaven Collins
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Forrest on Fire posted:Arizona first rounders since 2011: yeah that's pretty grim. there's gonna be misses in the first round, happens all the time, but that is an ugly list there. reminds me a little of the seahawks, another team that has done pretty loving badly in the first round
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Forrest on Fire posted:Arizona first rounders since 2011: that's jonathan cooper traded for chandler jones ya mean i went to the cards preseason game where he snapped his leg, fun times
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Forrest on Fire posted:Arizona first rounders since 2011: ok but i don't know what that has to do with what i said. obviously sometimes you're going to draft poorly, or be unlucky. your assertion was that keim, apparently, "consistently" drafts well in rounds 2 and 3, but not in other rounds, as opposed to other, unstated gms. My assertion is no one drafts "consistently" well in any given round, both because the draft is mostly a crapshoot and because there's not any meaningful difference between evaluating players in round 3 vs round 4. if you have a bunch of success in one round and not another, that's probably just luck. i don't think keim is great or anything i just don't think that criticism makes any sense.
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