DesertIslandHermit posted:

Hillary sitting on graves named after mods/admins who got removed/killed.

Lib and let die posted:

it's probably about time this thread get 9/11'ed no?

The_Rob posted:

why?

Chillgamesh posted:

Sad to think I have to wait a whole year for the next 9/11. I wish it could be 9/11 every day

AnimeIsTrash posted:

https://twitter.com/dogboner/status/1436819093794050055

The_Rob posted:

why?

Man Musk posted:

https://twitter.com/carolaverygrant/status/1436790396487565313

Lib and let die posted:

this was gonna be a setup to a controlled demolition joke, but i forgot the punchline.

pretend i said something witty about controlled demolition here, i guess.

Stevie Lee posted:

twenty years, still sheddin' tears

TenementFunster posted:

never 4get

quote:

NEWSWEEK: Why are you speaking out on Iraq? Do you want to mediate, as you tried to on the Mideast a couple of years ago? It seems you are reentering the fray now.

NELSON MANDELA: If I am asked, by credible organizations, to mediate, I will consider that very seriously. But a situation of this nature does not need an individual, it needs an organization like the United Nations to mediate.

We must understand the seriousness of this situation. The United States has made serious mistakes in the conduct of its foreign affairs, which have had unfortunate repercussions long after the decisions were taken. Unqualified support of the Shah of Iran led directly to the Islamic revolution of 1979.

Then the United States chose to arm and finance the [Islamic] mujahedin in Afghanistan instead of supporting and encouraging the moderate wing of the government of Afghanistan. That is what led to the Taliban in Afghanistan.

But the most catastrophic action of the United States was to sabotage the decision that was painstakingly stitched together by the United Nations regarding the withdrawal of the Soviet Union from Afghanistan. If you look at those matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace. Because what [America] is saying is that if you are afraid of a veto in the Security Council, you can go outside and take action and violate the sovereignty of other countries. That is the message they are sending to the world. That must be condemned in the strongest terms. And you will notice that France, Germany Russia, China are against this decision. It is clearly a decision that is motivated by George W. Bush’s desire to please the arms and oil industries in the United States of America. If you look at those factors, you’ll see that an individual like myself, a man who has lost power and influence, can never be a suitable mediator.

…

NEWSWEEK: Do you think that the Bush administration’s U.N. diplomatic effort now is genuine, or is the President just looking for political cover by speaking to the U.N. even as he remains intent on forging ahead unilaterally?

NELSON MANDELA: Well, there is no doubt that the United States now feels that they are the only superpower in the world and they can do what they like. And of course we must consider the men and the women around the president. Gen. Colin Powell commanded the United States army in peacetime and in wartime during the Gulf war. He knows the disastrous effect of international tension and war, when innocent people are going to die, young men are going to die. He knows and he showed this after September 11 last year. He went around briefing the allies of the United States of America and asking for their support for the war in Afghanistan. But people like Dick Cheney’s I see yesterday there was an article that said he is the real president of the United States of America, I don’t know how true that is. Dick Cheney, [Defense secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, they are people who are unfortunately misleading the president. Because my impression of the president is that this is a man with whom you can do business. But it is the men who around him who are dinosaurs, who do not want him to belong to the modern age. The only man, the only person who wants to help Bush move to the modern era is Gen. Colin Powell, the secretary of State.

NEWSWEEK: I gather you are particularly concerned about Vice President Cheney?

NELSON MANDELA: Well, there is no doubt. He opposed the decision to release me from prison (laughs). The majority of the U.S. Congress was in favor of my release, and he opposed it. But it’s not because of that. Quite clearly we are dealing with an arch-conservative in Dick Cheney.

exmarx posted:

TenementFunster posted:

all these people say they voted for trump to end obama’s endless wars lol

Lib and let die posted:

How many wars did he start

Lib and let die posted:

I think giving any potus for starting one of the CIA's proxy ops is probably giving them too much credit imo

TenementFunster posted:

all these people say they voted for trump to end obama’s endless wars lol

Bronze Fonz posted:

Ending Obama's endless wars, the average trump voter's #1 issue.

Lib and let die posted:

How many wars did he start

Hatebag posted:

Libya, Syria, yemen, probably a few more if you include special forces stuff.

Crusty Nutsack posted:

quote:

The BTS “army” also fundraised in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, and helped block a police campaign that was gathering data on protesters by flooding the police website with images and videos of celebrities.

etalian posted:

I wonder how long the US will continue to have 9/11 remembrance days?

All the boomers like my parents seem so fixated and "The time US Came together as nation" to rubber stamp new military adventures.

Iron Crowned posted:

Forever. They ran a piece on the local news that was basically "why don't high school kids remember 9/11"

It'll just become ingrained in US culture that we have to stop and remember that a bad thing happened that day 70 years ago.

spacemang_spliff posted:

did they consider that anyone in high school would not have been born before 9/11 and thus would not have memories of it?