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see no weevil
Oct 31, 2019

Mr. Fall Down Terror posted:

just for laffs i went back through the AE9/11T sponsored report and saw that they breifly addressed two other structural engineering reports, created for both sides of a lawsuit around the collapse of WTC 7, both of which also found that fire was essential to the collapse of the structure

it is actually not extraordinary at all, office fires can easily get well over 1100*C if they are allowed to get fully inflamed and if the fireproof cladding is damaged from, say, a debris strike... i guess that fact is inconvenient for the conclusion the authors have been paid to discover so we just skip right past that without comment in this passage

anyway yeah it's not just one report this report is trying to disagree with, but three of them, and its just using a ton of words to say "jet fuel cant melt steel beams" which is of course a cliche of irrational, blinkered thought, and then the conclusion at the end is just a wink-nod "we don't know what happened, but all of the columns must have simultaneously moved" because if they actually said "it was controlled demolition" any last bit of plausibility would be gone

Oh man those guys really do love their bad faith readings on WTC 7. Modern tall buildings are required to have sprinkler systems and a whole bevy of other stuff installed that compartmentalizes the fire so that it doesn't spread much. Compartmentalization combined with sprinklers are basically the bedrock of modern building protection nowadays because they're very useful in keeping the fire from reaching flashover (which can give you very high temperatures because your whole room is filled with ultrahot smoke).

However, if you have no water to your sprinklers, a MASSIVE source of radiation and embers pelting the side of your building, and multiple buildings that just got hit by a plane.......traditional assumptions about fire spread go out the window really loving quickly because your whole building is on fire. For 7 hours straight. On 25% of your floors. Firefighting was largely not fighting fires inside the building because the occupants evacuated when the planes hit, before the building caught fire, which also contributed.

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